Coronavirus

[Zico]

So in other words, if you think it's bad now (or not), just wait and see what January brings

[only1swanny]

35 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

So in other words, if you think it's bad now (or not), just wait and see what January brings

Pretty much.

[Zico]

23 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

YouGov have a report out today stating that 69% of the British public would be happy with a 9pm curfew on pubs and bars.

Aye, I have heard that Covid does lurk around after 9pm and you have more chance of catching it 🙄

Then Its only fair they have a work curfew so everyone can join the teachers in finishing at 3 so they can get on it earlier

[birch-chorley]

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

 

Remember that years flu well, affectionately known as the Xmas day massacre in this house

12 of us sat down for Xmas dinner, 10 got the flu, of which 4 went into hospital with it (2 x over 60, 2 x under 4), Nana Nichols never came out 😢

Not quite a massacre like but still  

[Casino]

5 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Then Its only fair they have a work curfew so everyone can join the teachers in finishing at 3 so they can get on it earlier

3?

They working late to catch up for doing nowt for 6 months?

[Gonk]

Next door have 3 kids - 2 go to CNR, one to R&B.

Middle ones best friend has tested positive, and middle one is now showing symptoms.

Whole house now in self lockdown.

Next fucking door.

Fortunately they seem the responsible type.

 

[Winchester White]

Of course it is open to abuse but what is the alternative really?

Needs testing ramping up so that people can get tested asap and crack on if negative.

[Sweep]

25 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Can you crack on if negative though, your in the same position as pre-test, covid is still out there and you can still catch it.

If the test had a quick results turnaround it may make some difference. 

correct, tests in themselves aren't much use, as you can test negative and then walk out of the test centre and catch it 2 minutes later (in theory) - the only sort of test that is relevant is an antibody test, so once it's been proven you've had it, and are carrying antibodies, then you should be able to crack on. (provided of course it can be proven that you can't catch it again, or carry it and pass it on to anybody else)

The fact that we still don't seem to know if antibodies last for life, or if you can or can't catch it again, shows how little we know about this, and how far away a true vaccine could be

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

Can you crack on if negative though, your in the same position as pre-test, covid is still out there and you can still catch it.

If the test had a quick results turnaround it may make some difference. 

aye, but the alternative to that is lockdown till vaccine

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Peely will shed some light, but i didn't realise that a positive test varies from country to country. The pcr technique still requires a threshold to be reached to be positive. Different places have different thresholds.

Presumably that's why in the couple of days after you become infected, you can test negative. Hence that's why they ask people to only get tested if showing symptoms. 

Kent's explanation of looking for asymptotic people in Bolton will be important. If shit loads show up, then maybe restrictions will tighten?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Council fella on the news this morning. He said a mobile testing centre was arranged, for Bromley Cross las Sunday. 

The company who were to undertake the work didn't show up!

Apparently they got others to cover. 

He went on to say that (i think it was this centre, but maybe another) that 400 slots were available and only 40 taken.

Seems like demand fluctuates a lot.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

 

[gonzo]

Its bubbling on the edge. Folk are shit scared of being blamed. 

All about liabilty.

[peelyfeet]

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

Good thread that, some  things missing are :

If you're using deaths as a way of comparing how the virus is spreading now to before, you need to take the age of the patients into consideration. It was mainly the over 80's in Spring, looks like its 60-79 at the moment, who are less likely to die in general, and even more so now than in spring because of advances in treatment. 

Shit weather in the UK will make it worse. Long term forecast is an Indian summer, I hope its sunny until Feb!

On a shit note, 30 in Royal Bolton now, another 20 potential on amber ward, and 5 in critical care.

Mainly white men in their 40s and 50s. Us basically.

 

Edited September 16, 2020 by peelyfeet

[Spider]

Half of year 7 at Rivington being isolated for 2 weeks.

thats about 100 kids

[only1swanny]

10 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

Teaching finishes at 4 were I work. Although timetables are different for each teacher and their lessons on some days may finish earlier, they have to stay on campus until 4 or 4.30pm. Some stay a lot longer.

The Pupils at secondary and college may finish at 3pm & 4pm respectively, but that doesn't mean they have finished, they will have admin, parents to see, departmental and staff meetings and pastoral matters to attend to.

But, I suppose in these days of covid, some schools will allow for an early finish, and we do have a few staff and Students self-isolating including my assistant who has rang in this morning, sore throat yesterday apparently. This is what this is now creating, if any member of staff are feeling a little under the weather, they are not coming in. A system open to abuse ? 

Difficult one.

Just finished for the day, been sat at my pc since 3PM, aside from driving home as the building closes for deep clean at 5.30

 

[Horwich]

Karen wins

[only1swanny]

Just now, Mr Grey said:

Dont leave anything on your desk 😁

Onsite cleaners are doing a grand job, pass my office every hour and sanitize and clean the door handles and my hatch shelf. Sort of gotten used to it, mask in corridors and communal areas to be worn, but I have noticed that Students who were all on the ball at first are now getting more lax about it as every day goes by. 

the cleaners are absolute troopers. Kids having dinner in classrooms is causing an absolute state, deep clean every night and schools spotless next morning. 

They've all got to wear gloves, mask and apron at all times, its a hard job

[peelyfeet]

North East on Friday, cant be long before they add more areas in NW I fear.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-north-east-faces-tighter-lockdown-restrictions-from-friday-12073640

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

North East on Friday, cant be long before they add more areas in NW I fear.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-north-east-faces-tighter-lockdown-restrictions-from-friday-12073640

Although not covered, I wonder if the Middlesbrough 1000 fans trial will be stopped.

[Spider]

Over 100 people turned up at A&E in Bolton yesterday trying to get tested.

Part of me thinks it’s down to the world class testing system

Most of me thinks people aren’t all that keen on going to work.

[Gonk]

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Edited September 17, 2020 by Gonk
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[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Over 100 people turned up at A&E in Bolton yesterday trying to get tested.

Part of me thinks it’s down to the world class testing system

Most of me thinks people aren’t all that keen on going to work.

If they test negative, they will have to go in. 

That said, there is a degree of it going on. One of my customers is struggling to get staff. Full time jobs available from what I understand. 

Whilst it won't solve the problem, maybe people not actually needing a test or using the system for other means should think again, and leave them for those who need it.

[MickyD]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Over 100 people turned up at A&E in Bolton yesterday trying to get tested.

Part of me thinks it’s down to the world class testing system

Most of me thinks people aren’t all that keen on going to work.

I reckon part of the reason is perceived entitlement init?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Stories of large gathering in the North east, and a coach load of cock ends from Wales going to Doncaster races, calling at several boozers. Plenty of positive tests among the latter.

No bloody wonder cases and demand for tests is rising.