little whitt Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66599733 Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia, with nine other people on board also dead Thought he was Fucking about in Africa the other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 How’d they persuade the pilot to go ahead with this mission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted August 23, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, little whitt said: Thought he was Fucking about in Africa the other day I thought that too? Maybe he wasn't on it but some of his top boys or family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 23, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: How’d they persuade the pilot to go ahead with this mission? Early indications are it was shot down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Colour me shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 passengers plus 3 crew members =10 Only 8 bodies recovered And after Prig had been to the Kremlin, talked to Putin and was allowed to walk away. There's a 50% chance this was staged by the FSB to get him out of the political limelight. He could well be sat with his feet up in Sharm. Show me the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 23, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2023 How easy is it to "recover bodies" after a missile attack and subsequent crash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 VID-20230823-WA0081.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 23, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: How easy is it to "recover bodies" after a missile attack and subsequent crash? Easy enough if you have a few carrier bags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wanderlust Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: How easy is it to "recover bodies" after a missile attack and subsequent crash? Tricky if they're on the passenger list but not actually on the plane in the first place I missed a train I was booked on just last week, but the records will show I was on it. He's "probably" dead. Edited August 24, 2023 by Wanderlust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2023 No comments from the top bods in Russia. Listening to an "expert", he suggests it suits Putin to let the conspiracy theories continue. Is he or isn't he dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted August 24, 2023 Moderators Share Posted August 24, 2023 I'm not into Russian politics or anything but I can't imagine a scenario where it would make sense for Putin to let everyone think he was dead when in fact he was alive They'll never admit to it, but they never do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Prighozen signing for Saudi B league midfield enforcer. Games gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 25, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 Putin has said Prigozhin is dead. He is one cold, horrible fucker, you have to give him that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 25, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 13 hours ago, Zico said: I'm not into Russian politics or anything but I can't imagine a scenario where it would make sense for Putin to let everyone think he was dead when in fact he was alive They'll never admit to it, but they never do The suggestion being that a "deal" is agreed whereby he fucks off somewhere safe, secure and readied for life, in return for not being a thorn in Putin's side. Keep the mystery alive. I reckon he's croaked it, but the suggestion was that that could anger both his men, and a fair old swathe of Russians themselves, who quite like him. However, now that Putin has said he's dead, he must be quietly confident that there won't be any sort of revenge/uprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted August 25, 2023 Moderators Share Posted August 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: The suggestion being that a "deal" is agreed whereby he fucks off somewhere safe, secure and readied for life, in return for not being a thorn in Putin's side. Keep the mystery alive. I reckon he's croaked it, but the suggestion was that that could anger both his men, and a fair old swathe of Russians themselves, who quite like him. However, now that Putin has said he's dead, he must be quietly confident that there won't be any sort of revenge/uprising. I think he'd rather just kill him and be done with it Deals suggest weakness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 25, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, Zico said: I think he'd rather just kill him and be done with it Deals suggest weakness Possibly so, and it's probably what happened. The theory makes some sense though; if his army was to take unmbridge and have a go, then that's a big headache. Some suggestions they're not happy, but whether they can unite behind another leader, who knows. I suppose these are the calculations they will have made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Possibly so, and it's probably what happened. The theory makes some sense though; if his army was to take unmbridge and have a go, then that's a big headache. Some suggestions they're not happy, but whether they can unite behind another leader, who knows. I suppose these are the calculations they will have made. Weren't Wagner troops being switched over to Russian army after the 'coup'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 If Putin says he's dead we can be fairly sure he is dead, Putin wouldn't risk looking a twat if there was any chance of Prigozhin popping up again. & the Wagner group aren't much of a threat now, they're leaderless, spread thin around Belarus, Africa & Ukraine & have had their heavy arms taken off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 25, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Weren't Wagner troops being switched over to Russian army after the 'coup'? Don't think it happened. The group is large, and very wealthy- has lots of money making arms apparently. From criminal activity of course. Can fund their own army, at least for a while, and they could still be a thorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 25, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Don't think it happened. The group is large, and very wealthy- has lots of money making arms apparently. From criminal activity of course. Can fund their own army, at least for a while, and they could still be a thorn. Why don't they just swap sides and fight with the Ukranians? Sounds like they don't care as long as they get paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 25, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, Spider said: Why don't they just swap sides and fight with the Ukranians? Sounds like they don't care as long as they get paid That's what mercenaries do. They may have been doing Putin's bidding, but that's not to say their allegiance is to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Don't think it happened. The group is large, and very wealthy- has lots of money making arms apparently. From criminal activity of course. Can fund their own army, at least for a while, and they could still be a thorn. I believe that a few other mercenary groups have been offering them an option to join, still with Russian links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Don't think it happened. The group is large, and very wealthy- has lots of money making arms apparently. From criminal activity of course. Can fund their own army, at least for a while, and they could still be a thorn. They'd have no hope in a direct fight with the Russian state; it's not for nothing Prig called his march off The nightmare for Putin would be open warfare on Russian streets but I'd think all parties realise that's not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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