Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Spider said: None of this is good for the renewable market. People simply won’t invest £10-20k on a renewable system for their house when times are hard. Its almost like the big energy companies know this and are the architects of the current issue. But that’s one for the conspiracy folk… Of course folk cutting their cloth makes buying heat pumps less likely. On the other hand, it makes the case for renewable far more cost beneficial. Green leccy is now cheaper than gas made. A top bod from one of the energy firms was on the other day, explaining how it will benefit the green energy sector and he argued similar hikes earlier would have pushed the market that way, and we'd be further down the road to energy independence now. He was also critical of the fact that too few people shop around and consider alternative companies. (Not so relevant now, but you can see his point). Not entirely in agreement with him as you can push too much too soon. There is an issue though with the ccl apparently still being applied to energy created by clean, renewable sources, which does seem a bit daft. Of course they perhaps can't cut too much because if everyone tried to switch there isn't yet enough renewable capacity to meet demand, so keeping some on to ensure further expansion might be understandable, but at the moment easing it a little would help reduce prices. Anyway, £150 in April is better than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Them council tax bands are messed up in some parts not very consistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, radcliffe white said: Them council tax bands are messed up in some parts not very consistent It's worth checking. I once had a firm cold call on us, explaining that some in pur area may be based wrongly. They did the legwork, and it cost nothing if no "win". I signed up, and bingo! Ours was the only house in the street in the wrong band. Been over banded since inception. We got all overpaid money back, including that of previous owners. Paid them a wedge of course, but I wasn't expecting anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Them council tax bands are messed up in some parts not very consistent It's only A-D getting it isn't it 🙄 - means I'll be getting fuck all as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I'll be getting it and I'm on a fixed tariff until April 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gonk said: I'll be getting it and I'm on a fixed tariff until April 23 Similar here. Will probably up payments and boost credit, so as to have a cushion when the fixed period ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Sweep said: It's only A-D getting it isn't it 🙄 - means I'll be getting fuck all as usual I thought we were band D, turns out band E. Bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I thought we were band D, turns out band E. Bugger. Get it checked. Can do it yourself for nowt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Get it checked. Can do it yourself for nowt! Nah, checked already and it's relatively new build. £260 quid a month on gas and elecy is a bit of a twat when you are used to paying less than half that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I thought we were band D, turns out band E. Bugger. I thought we were D, seems we're F.....shows how much attention I take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Sweep said: I thought we were D, seems we're F.....shows how much attention I take Posh cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Post removed. Edited February 6, 2022 by Traf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Sweep said: It's only A-D getting it isn't it 🙄 - means I'll be getting fuck all as usual What do you want a rebate for, you pay fuck all living in a Traveller camp in a static. Sorry, mansion in a village. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Pissing around buying gas from Russia who uses more and more coal all the time while we leave ours in the ground. Get it dug, get it burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted February 4, 2022 Members Share Posted February 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Traf said: My next gas bill is going to be bigger than Hitler's Bet you’re führious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Are these energy companies still making profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 4, 2022 Moderators Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Morizio said: Are these energy companies still making profit? UK Big Six energy firms made more than £1bn in profit ahead of price hike https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/uk-big-six-energy-firms-one-billion-pounds-profit-cost-of-living-increase/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 4, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) France have put their bills up by 4% Because they nationalised the govt have more control (didn’t think that sort of thing happened in the EU, assumed they all had to do the same thing…) Ironically, it doesn’t stop French energy companies owning companies abroad. Like, for example, they own most British ones. The British ones aren’t controlled by the government. Therefore, we are subsidising the French population who aren’t seeing their bills being tripled. But, you know, blue passports don’t come cheap. Edited February 4, 2022 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Get it paid and stop bloody moaning. It’s a couple of take-aways or a footy game to knock on the head each month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, Rudy said: Bet you’re führious Yes, I'm not reich enough to afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 4, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Morizio said: Are these energy companies still making profit? Depends what you mean by energy companies. Some are effectively just suppliers, others extract and distribute it. Those that went tits up clearly weren't. Others are making plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 4, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Spider said: France have put their bills up by 4% Because they nationalised the govt have more control (didn’t think that sort of thing happened in the EU, assumed they all had to do the same thing…) Ironically, it doesn’t stop French energy companies owning companies abroad. Like, for example, they own most British ones. The British ones aren’t controlled by the government. Therefore, we are subsidising the French population who aren’t seeing their bills being tripled. But, you know, blue passports don’t come cheap. https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/eu-beats-2020-renewable-energy-goal-france-lags-behind-eurostat-2022-01-19/ Dear me. They're comparatively pants. A lot of investment still needed over there. We're way ahead. Once we've got into the territory of Norway, and our electricity is free from ccl, we'll be in a good place comparatively. Visionary governments for many years here have seen the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59897048 Chart in here shows where the money goes in an average bill, as well as VAT there is a green levy that the Govt collects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 4, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/eu-beats-2020-renewable-energy-goal-france-lags-behind-eurostat-2022-01-19/ Dear me. They're comparatively pants. A lot of investment still needed over there. We're way ahead. Once we've got into the territory of Norway, and our electricity is free from ccl, we'll be in a good place comparatively. Visionary governments for many years here have seen the way to go. So why are French households getting a 4% increase, and our is 54%? Visionary is very subjective. Remember, the "visionaries" on here were taters deep in Boris Johnson not very long ago. They seem to have either gone to ground or changed their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Youri McAnespie said: What do you want a rebate for I want a rebate. as everybody else is getting one, I don't see what the size/value of the property has to do with it at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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