paulhanley Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Wouldnt have helped on Saturday but when the away followings are 1500 or less they should just put the away fans in the SSU and keep the SSL closed altogether. For a following of 2500-3000 you could have 1000-1500 away fans in the middle sections of the SSL bang behind the goal with the rest upstairs. That means loads of segregation space between the away fans and the ESL and WSL. Keeping away fans in the ground afterwards has been done for decades. It used to happen at Burnden. Some nasally sounding copper would speak through the tannoy at 80 mins and say "This is a message for the visiting supporters, you will be kept in the ground at full time. This is for your own safety".... at which point the Manny Road north cheered and started singing their songs about heads being kicked in and our guests going home in Bolton ambulances. There's nothing new under the sun, the police are being very naive to let away fans out at the same time as home fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, gonzo said: The bans were nothing to do with anything near a football ground. Jsl not all, but I think a few were from when it kicked off after the behind the doors exeter match? anyway, I'm just sort of guessing that these numbers will be used by GMP to make a point, and the Wigan match was the point where the police said "right, stop fucking around now, sort it" I'm not sticking up for Hart, I've not even signed up to be a member, fuck that, and I'm not using the snitch line to grass any one up but I don't think he just rocked up and decided to do all this off his own back as was suggested, I think it's reactive and GMP will be involved but why GMP keep fans in at City but not at our place when they know big followings mean trouble, I don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, Underpants said: SW fan getting the bracelets banged on outside the hotel. So, Mr. Hart. The problem lies where exactly? What a stupid sad old bald twat, i presume the cunt in the shorts and scruffy pink adidas pasties is his mate or son. Pair of Wankers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 It’s been bubbling on our last few visits to Sheffield Saturday was always going to be lively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2022 Yon mon has to be 65 with the state of his wrinkly granny hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, Zico said: not all, but I think a few were from when it kicked off after the behind the doors exeter match? anyway, I'm just sort of guessing that these numbers will be used by GMP to make a point, and the Wigan match was the point where the police said "right, stop fucking around now, sort it" I'm not sticking up for Hart, I've not even signed up to be a member, fuck that, and I'm not using the snitch line to grass any one up but I don't think he just rocked up and decided to do all this off his own back as was suggested, I think it's reactive and GMP will be involved but why GMP keep fans in at City but not at our place when they know big followings mean trouble, I don't know Aye Im with you. I think GMP are the main instigators in this but its Neil Harts decision making that's the big problem. There's ways and means of going about things and he's going about it all the wrong way. As Ive said a million times before he needa to emrbace the crazy corner and utilise it. Make it a weapon, us against the world kind of thing. Stop giving the whole end to big away followings, stop letting everyone out at the same time if you do and you're half way there. Most of all target the trouble makers not everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, gonzo said: Aye Im with you. I think GMP are the main instigators in this but its Neil Harts decision making that's the big problem. There's ways and means of going about things and he's going about it all the wrong way. As Ive said a million times before he needa to emrbace the crazy corner and utilise it. Make it a weapon, us against the world kind of thing. Stop giving the whole end to big away followings, stop letting everyone out at the same time if you do and you're half way there. Most of all target the trouble makers not everyone else. aye, the thing for me with NH is that he called us customers and talks about data, so I'm just not interested in anything he has to say I don't mind the big followings, but, we took 5k to Wigan in the league cup in August, and got kept in, then stopped at the bridge for ages and once over the bridge had to wait ages again for them to let us go left away from the town centre took an hour to get to the car, for a 10 min walk two months later Wigan turn up at our place and don't get held back I don't know if that's GMP or NH making that call, but it's bollocks and asking for trouble - there's lads always looking for it outside the the hote/away end. but it only ever really seems to be a problem when it's someone who brings a decent following so I agree with the sentiment that it's not just our fans, and there's stuff we can do to stop them being dicks as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Neil Hart would more than likely suggest to let the away fans out first and hold back the Bolton fans 🙄 Admittedly theres a problem when theres a large away following. I just don’t think NH is the man to deal with the issue, he clearly doesn’t “Get it” 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, Zico said: I don't know if that's GMP or NH making that call,that it's not just our fans, and there's stuff we can do to stop them being dicks as well If it is safety related, people control based, and outside the ground it will be a GMP decision. I guess the club could make requests & suggestions but outside the ground the buck stops with the cops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted April 11, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Zico said: and it seems to me like police forces are putting pressure on clubs to do something about it, or, face an increase in costs As I pointed out earlier, three recent games all within GMP had three different ways of dealing with crowds: Wigan (a) kept away fans held outside Wednesday (h) allowed two large crowd to mingle City v Liverpool kept away fans in ground. So is it down to each match commander or do they work to a checklist of things they need to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnden Pies Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 26 minutes ago, MickyD said: As I pointed out earlier, three recent games all within GMP had three different ways of dealing with crowds: Wigan (a) kept away fans held outside Wednesday (h) allowed two large crowd to mingle City v Liverpool kept away fans in ground. So is it down to each match commander or do they work to a checklist of things they need to do? Or is it GM (special measures) P haven't got a coherent plan and just make it up as they go along? Would be consistent in how GMP generally seem to operate. Dreadful police force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted April 11, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2022 Sitting 20 police in hi viz and then unknown "plain clothes" police in the East Stand is killing the atmosphere.. Then who kicks off and tries a pitch invasion... the away fans with feck all police there.. Makes perfect sense. Outside despite having a large police presence (some of who looked like they were just after overtime), they can't control the crowds.. Easy way, keep the away fans in. Go to an away match and it's expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Carlos said: Yon mon has to be 65 with the state of his wrinkly granny hands. Summer wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2022 Fucking hell, did they stick his Zimmer in the van too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted April 11, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Underpants said: Summer wine. Why is there a scruffy steward leading him away with cuffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2022 Citizens arrest? Where you can't use cuffs? I sense a lawsuit coming along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, MickyD said: Why is there a scruffy steward leading him away with cuffs? There was a couple of coppers accompanying Foggy who aren't in the shot. They ended up taking him into the hotel because he felt "poorly". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Led away by a young boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted April 11, 2022 Members Share Posted April 11, 2022 Far too many photos and videos being taken and posted online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Neil & Sharon, do you think there's an imbalance with the copper to fan ratio in these two picture 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Crazy corner next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Underpants said: Neil & Sharon, do you think there's an imbalance with the copper to fan ratio in these two picture 🤔 Unfathomable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2022 Thinking about it, have away fans ever been held back at our place? Nothing springs to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, only1swanny said: Sitting 20 police in hi viz and then unknown "plain clothes" police in the East Stand is killing the atmosphere.. Then who kicks off and tries a pitch invasion... the away fans with feck all police there.. Makes perfect sense. Outside despite having a large police presence (some of who looked like they were just after overtime), they can't control the crowds.. Easy way, keep the away fans in. Go to an away match and it's expected. I can only think of wigan where we have been kept in over the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted April 11, 2022 Members Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) Iles asking fans to fill in a survey about this season , tick you listen to the buff then on the last question (16) is where comments can be added and will be passed on to club Edited April 11, 2022 by burnden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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