barrycowdrill Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Yeh I really couldn’t care less whether it was 23k or 28k. What I do know is there are times where they are on top and putting us right under it. Hopefully due to chasing something because they’re behind and I’d rather not have 4k of them getting right behind them. This game is as important if not more for us than it is for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostock Whites Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I'm more concerned about us actually playing well and dominating, and them getting a goal from nowhere and/or a mistake from us. Game will be decided by key moments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, barrycowdrill said: Yeh I really couldn’t care less whether it was 23k or 28k. What I do know is there are times where they are on top and putting us right under it. Hopefully due to chasing something because they’re behind and I’d rather not have 4k of them getting right behind them. This game is as important if not more for us than it is for them Yep, I've genuinely no idea why people would want more of their fans in the ground. Not like the top tier is visible either. We don't want them having a big party in our ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 They should have been given the top tier and fuck all else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken dippers Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 👆what Traf said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rival Son Posted April 10 Popular Post Share Posted April 10 4 hours ago, barrycowdrill said: we know how fickle a large part of our fanbase is Is this true? We have c.16k season ticket holders, and an average home attendance of c.19k, from a town of 200k residents, within a borough of 300k. This is in the third tier of English football. Beyond the borough, we have three of biggest clubs in Europe (if not the world) and another two Premier League (for now) clubs, within an hours drive of our stadium. Beyond a very few neighbouring smaller towns, such as Atherton and Leigh, with no league team of their own, their is a multitude of competition for the “floating” fan in north west. Similar sized towns and cities, such as Ipswich, Stoke, Norwich are a monopoly league club in their county and struggle to get better crowds than Bolton, when we’re at the same level. I’d argue that our support is very robust, when measured against (admittedly slightly smaller) local peers, such as Blackburn, Blackpool, Preston and Burnley, and further afield peers such as Charlton and Crystal Palace. Short of the sort of billionaire investment that delivers success and the associated glory hunters, I’d suggest our maximum core support is unlikely to ever get beyond 30k. To have two thirds of that core support buying tickets for every game in third tier football is anything but fickle, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 5 hours ago, Rival Son said: Is this true? We have c.16k season ticket holders, and an average home attendance of c.19k, from a town of 200k residents, within a borough of 300k. This is in the third tier of English football. Beyond the borough, we have three of biggest clubs in Europe (if not the world) and another two Premier League (for now) clubs, within an hours drive of our stadium. Beyond a very few neighbouring smaller towns, such as Atherton and Leigh, with no league team of their own, their is a multitude of competition for the “floating” fan in north west. Similar sized towns and cities, such as Ipswich, Stoke, Norwich are a monopoly league club in their county and struggle to get better crowds than Bolton, when we’re at the same level. I’d argue that our support is very robust, when measured against (admittedly slightly smaller) local peers, such as Blackburn, Blackpool, Preston and Burnley, and further afield peers such as Charlton and Crystal Palace. Short of the sort of billionaire investment that delivers success and the associated glory hunters, I’d suggest our maximum core support is unlikely to ever get beyond 30k. To have two thirds of that core support buying tickets for every game in third tier football is anything but fickle, in my opinion. Course it’s true. Yes we have a very good core support when you compare us against other teams in the area but that’s not what I was comparing us too. ST sales this year and last have been great. But let’s not crack on thinking that’s what we do or have done year on year. They were our highest numbers since the prem days. Prior to that we averaged around 12k which kind of proves my point. listen this isn’t criticism of the fanbase, it’s more a point about the dormant lot. If we were in the position Pompey are on Saturday those tickets would be gone. So yes a portion of them are fickle. I get it but it doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Much like many a club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Plus if they were cheap again, they'd be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbulb Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Quote we know how fickle a large part of our fanbase Quote listen this isn’t criticism of the fanbase Er... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 20 minutes ago, fishbulb said: Er... Worded incorrectly . There’s a clear separation on the core that go regularly and the dormant lot. But let’s overlook that for the sake of being pedantic eh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted April 10 Site Supporter Share Posted April 10 5 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Worded incorrectly . There’s a clear separation on the core that go regularly and the dormant lot. But let’s overlook that for the sake of being pedantic eh.. Hey, @fishbulb, strap yourself in, I think you’ve just had a nibble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeversLeftPeg Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 3-1 Whites. Derby to get less than 3 points before Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 10 Site Supporter Share Posted April 10 18-7 to us. Both keepers sent off, and no replacements on either bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On the crowd element. I think, since we nearly went out of business dormant fans have started attending again. The prospect of losing your football club really does make you think of what life would be like without bwfc. I wouldn’t want to experience it again but maybe it did have positive repercussions. It also is a big help playing attractive football too btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostock Whites Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Popeye doyle said: On the crowd element. I think, since we nearly went out of business dormant fans have started attending again. The prospect of losing your football club really does make you think of what life would be like without bwfc. I wouldn’t want to experience it again but maybe it did have positive repercussions. It also is a big help playing attractive football too btw. Just a couple years ago, there was a strong discussion between the club and the supporters about closing the upper tiers and having only the lower tiers open. Now we're averaging 21,000 in League 1. Rovers are getting just 14/15,000 in the Championship. We've been gathering an incredible amount of momentum, let's hope that continues. Edited April 10 by Lostock Whites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 10 Site Supporter Share Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said: Just a couple years ago, there was a strong discussion between the club and the supporters about closing the upper tiers and having only the lower tiers open. Now we're averaging 21,000 in League 1. Rovers are getting just 14/15,000 in the Championship. We've been gathering an incredible amount of momentum, let's hope that continues. Gunner need a bigger boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Tickets have started to shift in South Lower; hope we fill it to half way to drown them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Popeye doyle said: On the crowd element. I think, since we nearly went out of business dormant fans have started attending again. The prospect of losing your football club really does make you think of what life would be like without bwfc. I wouldn’t want to experience it again but maybe it did have positive repercussions. It also is a big help playing attractive football too btw. I wonder if there is any correlation in the covid lock outs and any similarities from the boom attendances after the war. As you say, it’s taken away and it makes you realise how important going to Bolton games is! Most clubs are getting bigger crowds than 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Anyone counted the spare seats yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 12 minutes ago, Big E said: Anyone counted the spare seats yet Without doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeversLeftPeg Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 14 minutes ago, Big E said: Anyone counted the spare seats yet Craig North whilst furiously masturbating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 25 minutes ago, tomski said: I wonder if there is any correlation in the covid lock outs and any similarities from the boom attendances after the war. As you say, it’s taken away and it makes you realise how important going to Bolton games is! Most clubs are getting bigger crowds than 10 years ago. Absolutely, our support has grown but so many others too from top to bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, BeeversLeftPeg said: Craig North whilst furiously masturbating. Himself or someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Just now, Traf said: Himself or someone else? Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted April 10 Site Supporter Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Tickets have started to shift in South Lower; hope we fill it to half way to drown them out It's the worst place to watch the whites as a home supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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