royal white Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 Just now, Stig said: Give over and stop being a bell end on a miserable day for all Great input noncey chops. Yes it’s a shit result guess what, we are not the only club to have a shit result today Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 6 minutes ago, Zog1 said: Not only do we have a squad, we have an entirely separate B team squad, bought, designed and ran to fill in the gaps and to provide a pipeline for young players into the main squad. IE just refuses to use it even when the main squad are according to him on IV bags before the game. There's plenty to criticise Evatt for but not utilising the B Team isn't one of them Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 I don't think anyone is basing their opinion of Evatt solely on today's result Quote
Zog1 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I don't think anyone is basing their opinion of Evatt solely on today's result This is the part that's so frustrating it's been like this for 4 years... and people are still suprised by how rubbish we are aginst peers. This team the way it plays etc are an illusion. The same reason it looks amazing vs Stevenage is the same reason we look as poor as we do today. You can't do that and gain promotion. Quote
Take Hunt Off Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 Watched Stockport midweek taken apart by Wycombe who to be fair were the best team I have seen this season in this league Was a bit apprehensive about a positive reaction from them after the home stuffing . So it was one of those games where we needed to get on the front foot early in terms of their morale after being hammered . Very opposite approach cautious back peddling, under pressure from long balls & failure to get out of our own half with shitty two yard passing & no forward outlet. All predictable really & that’s the problem , reluctantly I think Evatt is now a busted flush . How any potential successor can succeed with these players I’m not sure but fresh thinking / tactics are required asap. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Zog1 said: This is the part that's so frustrating it's been like this for 4 years... and people are still suprised by how rubbish we are aginst peers. This team the way it plays etc are an illusion. The same reason it looks amazing vs Stevenage is the same reason we look as poor as we do today. You can't do that and gain promotion. I don't know what that has to do with my post Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 8 hours ago, royal white said: So a nearly man then I'd suggest getting a team promoted is an achievement, not a near miss. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 7 hours ago, Take Hunt Off said: How any potential successor can succeed with these players I’m not sure but fresh thinking / tactics are required asap. That's the concern, we do need change but any new man has a job on getting this squad to do things that aren't in their DNA Quote
Spider Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 53 minutes ago, Greg_BWFC said: I'd suggest getting a team promoted is an achievement, not a near miss. Evatt did that Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 19 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: That's the concern, we do need change but any new man has a job on getting this squad to do things that aren't in their DNA Yes. I think we have a lot of talent in the squad but worry that it isn't balanced. For instance, we've no option to play one up top, someone who can occupy a couple of defenders and win the ball when it's played long. Think it's an option we need at times. Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Spider said: Evatt did that Correct, nobody was saying he didn't mate. Think he's taken us as far as he can, but appreciate there are no guarantees when you change manager. Quote
Lancaster18 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 I predict he’s going no where. 4 at the back next game. Quote
masi 51 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 54 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: That's the concern, we do need change but any new man has a job on getting this squad to do things that aren't in their DNA playing two in midfield is in no players DNA Granted most players are now comfortable playing with two wing backs, but every player can adapt to any formation out there be it 4/4/2 4/3/3 5/3/2 but never ever a 5/2/3 Quote
Whitesince63 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 10 hours ago, onefinfrandsen said: Going off the managers post match interview then todays result is hardly surprising, sickness sweeping through the camp, very little training done this week. Jones and tu tu wouldn’t have been anywhere near the squad let alone being brought on, draw a line and move on. Very little training? What training do they need they should know their jobs by now and if you or Evatt expect people to believe the whole squad suffered from illness then you’re more soft than he is. Even if 3 or 4 were poorly through the week and not up to it, leave them out and sit a few of the B Team like Inwood or Sharples-Ahmed on the bench. It’s total bollocks and just more excuses but however much he tries there are no excuses for the gutless, inept performance we saw yesterday. Quote
CumbrianWhite Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 49 minutes ago, Greg_BWFC said: Yes. I think we have a lot of talent in the squad but worry that it isn't balanced. For instance, we've no option to play one up top, someone who can occupy a couple of defenders and win the ball when it's played long. Think it's an option we need at times. We’ve unfortunately got rid of any wingers in the squad as well as anyone who can win a header up front. Which then has us playing those shitty yard passes around our goal as if we punt it up it just comes straight back. Vic should have of been out the door as soon as an offer with money came in and the moment spent on a target man who lets us get up the pitch when teams press high. Quote
Whitesince63 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 9 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There's plenty to criticise Evatt for but not utilising the B Team isn't one of them So what’s the B Team for then? Surely we should be integrating the best of them into the match day squad just in case situations like the one Evatt’s quoting happen? We don’t and that’s down to Evatt surely? Quote
Whitesince63 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 1 hour ago, ianofcleveleys said: That's the concern, we do need change but any new man has a job on getting this squad to do things that aren't in their DNA The right things are in their DNA though it’s just Evatt that tries to force his DNA onto them. Another manager might just appreciate the skills and abilities they have and let them use them? Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 Unfortunately they won’t sack him; we need a clear out in the next transfer window and players like Forrester, Victor and Arfield need to go. Quote
masi 51 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 16 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: So what’s the B Team for then? Surely we should be integrating the best of them into the match day squad just in case situations like the one Evatt’s quoting happen? We don’t and that’s down to Evatt surely? The B team has no use whatsoever apart from the odd occasion one of the first team squad comes back from injury and gets mins in a B team game. We have been down to our bare bones the last few weeks and two got promoted into the first team, but in reality Evatt was never going to put them on....Rather put round pegs in square holes than play someone who plays for the B team Quote
Popular Post paulhanley Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 I admire all of those of you who have progressed to the stage of being able to analyse squad depth and DNA. I'm still at the stage of being stunned and disgusted by a scoreline of Stockport 5 Bolton 0 - heaped on other recent similar embarrassments. A line has to be drawn now. If we want to talk about DNA, this type of abysmal and cowardly surrender is not the DNA of Bolton Wanderers. As our flimsy ship was being capsized once more by neighbours yesterday, we picked up not one single booking. That speaks volumes to me. They couldn't give a shit and don't deserve the hugely impressive support they are getting from the people of the town. Stockport, Wigan, Blackpool and the like do give a shit. We are marked in red on their fixture list from the day they're published in June. That's why they "do" us every time. Attitude. Blackpool are in poor form just now but they'll battle like hell when they come up against us in a fortnight. A line has to be drawn. Quote
masi 51 Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Unfortunately they won’t sack him; we need a clear out in the next transfer window and players like Forrester, Victor and Arfield need to go. Getting rid of those three is not the answer, yes they are not good enough and should be on the bench at best, but it is the manager and the way he sets up his team that is at fault. We by all accounts got over run by Walsall last week and he then repeats his tactics. Yesterday before we conceded the first goal anyone could see how the game was going.........Baxter made three good saves before they went one up yet he carries on oblivious to how the game would end up...........He is inept Quote
onefinfrandsen Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 38 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: Very little training? What training do they need they should know their jobs by now and if you or Evatt expect people to believe the whole squad suffered from illness then you’re more soft than he is. Even if 3 or 4 were poorly through the week and not up to it, leave them out and sit a few of the B Team like Inwood or Sharples-Ahmed on the bench. It’s total bollocks and just more excuses but however much he tries there are no excuses for the gutless, inept performance we saw yesterday. What training do they do, it’s just as well your not going to be our next manager. Quote
Farnywhite Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 (edited) Be interesting to see what team he picks against fleetwood in the Mickey Mouse cup all these. Players on there death bed only days ago will be made to go again or does he bin it once and for all play the kids and risk 3 defeats on the bounce Edited November 10, 2024 by Farnywhite Quote
woolli Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 20 minutes ago, paulhanley said: I admire all of those of you who have progressed to the stage of being able to analyse squad depth and DNA. I'm still at the stage of being stunned and disgusted by a scoreline of Stockport 5 Bolton 0 - heaped on other recent similar embarrassments. A line has to be drawn now. If we want to talk about DNA, this type of abysmal and cowardly surrender is not the DNA of Bolton Wanderers. As our flimsy ship was being capsized once more by neighbours yesterday, we picked up not one single booking. That speaks volumes to me. They couldn't give a shit and don't deserve the hugely impressive support they are getting from the people of the town. Stockport, Wigan, Blackpool and the like do give a shit. We are marked in red on their fixture list from the day they're published in June. That's why they "do" us every time. Attitude. Blackpool are in poor form just now but they'll battle like hell when they come up against us in a fortnight. A line has to be drawn. Correct Paul. 55 years watching Bolton, that yesterday was up there as one of the most embarrassing defeats ive seen. Anyone still backing Evatt wants sectioning! Quote
Rizlar Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 Woke up this morning hopefully thinking ah well we lost move on but I can’t it was a disgrace yesterday weak as piss performance by all of them and Evatt comments after the game for gods sake take a look in the mirror and walk away which he won’t !! Bruce will have Blackpool fired up straight in our faces from the start Evatt will have us same as usual as he is a tactical genius ???? Quote
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