Johnnyrotten Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 1 hour ago, Cheese said: We were far from poor today. Just lacking that killer instinct. Does feel like a defeat though, and that's becoming an all too-familiar feeling. Suspect all of our neighbours' cats did a runner when Simons scored our disallowed second. I screamed my fucking head off. Glad it wasn't just me. Cat on knee, Simons scored, I jumped up, let out a gutteral raw, cat moved faster than she's ever moved, ran into other room (wife watching tennis) to explain the noise, show her the replay, saw them lining up to re-start (I thought) and joyfully watched the replay. I laughed as I said Gale might have looked a bit offside, the wife said its been disallowed and I didn't even believe her. By now there were cat biscuits all over the floor. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 1 hour ago, bwfc4ife said: All this inverted wingers bollocks, sure to god schuey must be instructing them to do it. Hardly any crosses at all. Cissoko is even more frustrating, he beats his man and then does this weird cut back the other way and lets his man get back in position. Beat the man and cross the fucking ball, create some panic! That’s where opportunities come from. It’s all a bit too routine because everyone including the opposition know what’s coming. He can do it - at Barnsley for half an hour he never once failed to either beat his man and get a cross in, or find a foot of space and cross it. Very impressive, he had skill and composure and end product. Since then, very frustrating. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 20 minutes ago, Hoppy said: Everyone seems to have a good opinion on how we should play , SS had the team together for a week before this game to work on tactics and the opposition, he obviously doesn't know his job we can all do better! He brought the players in to work on his tactics and his formation. We are a league 1 outfit with players that are not going to go anywhere near top championship and are struggling with how he wants us to play, but I am sure it will happen, it's frustrating at the moment not winning ,whitch when we click we will all enjoy moving up the table! Dear me. Hopefully it will get better. Nevertheless, it isn't great and fans are entitled to have a say. No different to chinwagging down the pub in that regard. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 37 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: Is he a up grade on Thomason ? Not sure up to now but only 5 games I would say no He's only started 3 league games. And the profit we made from swapping EE for Tomo was spent on Simons, so its a no brainer overall. Early impressions are EE gives away less easy free kicks and does less of the miscontrolling in tight situations in our half. And he's definitely stronger. But early days, I'd want to see a bit more goal threat at some point. Quote
Eddie Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) I get that emotions are high and we’re frustrated, yet again, but there seem to be a lot of definitive opinions being concluded on a team / players that are almost brand new. I understand passing judgement on their performance in this match, or in those so far, but surely we can’t come to a conclusion after 6 games when there have been such wholesale changes. Personally, I don’t think new players can be written off and systems shouldn’t be written off because it’s all still work in progress. The caveat to that is the defence / defenders. Slightly different formation this year but we’ve seen plenty of them so I don’t think it’s unfair to have a judgement on them. Edited August 31, 2025 by Eddie Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 37 minutes ago, Matt Lofthouse said: Lets hope we strengthen the squad tomorrow and also offload a few (McAtee, CMG, Big Dan, Schon, Johnston). I've seen flashes from Cissoko and Gale but its hard to avoid the conclusion that they aren't much of an upgrade on CMG and even Schon. If CMG had played 90 minutes on the left wing today and produced the same as those 2, it would have been used as evidence of why he has to go. Quote
onefinfrandsen Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Gonna sound like a hater but I'm really not convinced on Erahahon. Hoping it’s the fact he just hasn’t settled in yet, looks like he doesn’t know where he’s supposed to be playing. Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 11 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I've seen flashes from Cissoko and Gale but its hard to avoid the conclusion that they aren't much of an upgrade on CMG and even Schon. If CMG had played 90 minutes on the left wing today and produced the same as those 2, it would have been used as evidence of why he has to go. Cissoko and Gale are both liabilities and Schon is much better wide left Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Schon's not the answer Neither is the other two Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, RUREADY2ROLL said: Neither is the other two Certainly not so far Quote
Kane57 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 10 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Cissoko and Gale are both liabilities and Schon is much better wide left I think they're upgrades but from a really low bar to start with. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 I'm not a huge fan of Tutu but I've seen nothing of Cissoko or Gale to suggest they're any better than he was when played there last season. Cissoko looks like an unnecessary frippery of a signing, neither of them look to have the energy or aggression SS indicated he wanted from his wingers. Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) I'd have Schon before Cissoko any time. Edited August 30, 2025 by waffer cup 07 Quote
Farnywhite Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: I'm not a huge fan of Tutu but I've seen nothing of Cissoko or Gale to suggest they're any better than he was when played there last season. Cissoko looks like an unnecessary frippery of a signing, neither of them look to have the energy or aggression SS indicated he wanted from his wingers. Cissoko is shit one in 5 player gale prefare him from what I have now Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 4 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: I'm not a huge fan of Tutu but I've seen nothing of Cissoko or Gale to suggest they're any better than he was when played there last season. Cissoko looks like an unnecessary frippery of a signing, neither of them look to have the energy or aggression SS indicated he wanted from his wingers. I think Cissoko's got a higher ceiling but that doesn't mean much if he doesn't show it Otherwise, I agree To be honest, I have JOT as a LWB / left winger and nothing else Quote
freds dad Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 4 hours ago, burnden said: ITK Fred? Or man in pub? From a Stokie friend Quote
Tombwfc Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, ZiggyStardust said: THey have won 50% of their games, and have a positive goal difference. We've won 17% of our games, and conceded as many as we've scored. I'd say thats agood argument to say they are currently better than us. The games against common opponents have been Barnsley, Reading & Lincoln. They won all 3, we drew all 3. The overrating of our team and players is bordering on arrogance & delusion at this point. 3 wins in the last 18 games. We've conceded the first goal in 19 of 26 (73%) overall under SS. He's managed fewer wins with us than Kevin Nolan has with Northampton who was appointed at a similar time. Six points off the playoffs after six games, and we've played one team in the current top seven. And this is in the third tier, when the expectation should be automatic promotion. But none of the losses count and we've technically won every game this season. Up the shots off target Whites. Edited August 30, 2025 by Tombwfc Quote
masi 51 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Gale has potential, he can improve a little like Warren he is not yet ready for the first team. Cissoko is a loan and he for me can go back. He just does not seem interested. Would take offers on any of our back line Conway/Taylor excepted We are going to be stuck with a lot of Deadwood Come Tuesday Morning Quote
masi 51 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Tombwfc said: The overrating of our team and players is bordering on arrogance & delusion at this point. 3 wins in the last 18 games. We've conceded the first goal in 19 of 26 (73%) overall under SS. He's managed fewer wins with us than Kevin Nolan has with Northampton who was appointed at a similar time. And this is in the third tier, when the expectation should be automatic promotion. But none of the losses count and we've technically won every game this season. Up the shots off target Whites. Last seasons losses do not count it was in no way a Schumacher team........It was a team of kids the last two months This season has been frustrating, and no the team is still weak in areas of the pitch, and yes some of the signings and the system are not great. We will be left with deadwood come Tuesday but please do not tell me that team today is as bad as we was in August last season Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 6 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: We've conceded the first goal in 19 of 26 (73%) overall under SS There are some of the bad habits of Evatt's later period we haven't shaken off. Conceding first is one of them. Its near-fatal in L1. Quote
Farnywhite Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: There are some of the bad habits of Evatt's later period we haven't shaken off. Conceding first is one of them. Its near-fatal in L1. Can’t defend fuckung about at the back . Worried about the keeper Quote
masi 51 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Only Conway plays the ball forward, Cogley, Toal, and Johnson play it across the line or back....They still play the Evatt way. Cogleys distribution is awful but his pace gets him out of trouble. The other two seem to have lost what pace they had. Keepers ok, not the finished article but we could not afford that. On a side note Huddersfield keeper same profile as TSL had a shocker today. They are top talents learning their craft Quote
Ani Posted August 30, 2025 Author Posted August 30, 2025 1 hour ago, Farnywhite said: Is he a up grade on Thomason ? Not sure up to now but only 5 games I would say no I liked GT but EE is miles ahead Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 49 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Cissoko and Gale are both liabilities and Schon is much better wide left Against that, Cissoko has skill to beat a man, and strength to hold him off. Gale has pace, and some skill. I've not seen either from Schon. But CMG is better than Schon so the question would be are the 2 new signings better than CMG, I'm not sure but its irrelevant because even if he doesn't leave he won't be considered as it would make the recruitment look pointless. Quote
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