BeeversLeftPeg Posted March 5 Posted March 5 EFL confirm Championship playoffs will change format next season 5th v 8th & 6th v 7th play one off match. Team finishing higher will host game. Winners then play 3rd/4th following existing format, 2 legged semi final with 3rd/4th being at home second leg, winners play in final at Wembley. Not confirmed yet but could come into L1 & L2 the following 27/28 season. Why do people in charge of decision making keep fucking about with things when they aren't broken? Imagine the scenes when a team in 3rd finishes 1 point off the autos then loses 1-0 at Wembley to the side finishing 8th 25 points behind them. Quote
Dr Faustus Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, BeeversLeftPeg said: EFL confirm Championship playoffs will change format next season 5th v 8th & 6th v 7th play one off match. Team finishing higher will host game. Winners then play 3rd/4th following existing format, 2 legged semi final with 3rd/4th being at home second leg, winners play in final at Wembley. Not confirmed yet but could come into L1 & L2 the following 27/28 season. Why do people in charge of decision making keep fucking about with things when they aren't broken? Imagine the scenes when a team in 3rd finishes 1 point off the autos then loses 1-0 at Wembley to the side finishing 8th 25 points behind them. £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Quote
Kane57 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Love it. Imagine the seethe when we finish 8th and go up, 30 points behind whoever came 3rd Quote
DirtySanchez Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Kane57 said: Love it. Imagine the seethe when we finish 8th and go up, 30 points behind whoever came 3rd Also be great if the same happens to Ipswich given they hated the play offs as they usually finished third and lost Quote
L/H White Posted March 5 Posted March 5 it's nearly as bad as creating another european competition where you can qualify finishing 7th/8th and trying to call it a major trophy Quote
tomski Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Awful call. Statistically the lower finishing teams in the national league have done well as the better placed end up having 2 weeks off. Love the play offs. This is an Americanised fuck up Quote
jmjhb Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Dr Faustus said: £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ It's this. EFL keep 50% of the playoff gates and there's now 2 more games. Quote
DazBob Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, BeeversLeftPeg said: EFL confirm Championship playoffs will change format next season 5th v 8th & 6th v 7th play one off match. Team finishing higher will host game. Winners then play 3rd/4th following existing format, 2 legged semi final with 3rd/4th being at home second leg, winners play in final at Wembley. Not confirmed yet but could come into L1 & L2 the following 27/28 season. Why do people in charge of decision making keep fucking about with things when they aren't broken? Imagine the scenes when a team in 3rd finishes 1 point off the autos then loses 1-0 at Wembley to the side finishing 8th 25 points behind them. Having 3 automatic places used to be the norm... Quote
Didledee Posted March 5 Posted March 5 rewarding failure and it could mean teams in the normal playoff positions are more relaxed and under little threat and finish the season protecting their main players and using their backups to be fresh and ready for playoffs which could effect the rest of the whole league, losing games near end they wouldn't normally because they are comfortable way sooner in say early April. why should a team who's so far away from top 2 get a shot at joining them in the Prem? they may do shit in playoffs, but in one off games, who knows? unless whoever made this up wants to see more teams do worse than Derby did?!? these teams get a chance to play bigger teams with the luck of a cup draw, they shouldn't have a chance by one off games, they've had 46 games to 'normally' achieve that. probably same people who made semi finals at Wembley not neutral grounds and have the main stadium for the main event. Quote
Sweep Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Play Offs should always involve a team from the Division above, as it used to Quote
DirtySanchez Posted March 5 Posted March 5 53 minutes ago, Didledee said: rewarding failure and it could mean teams in the normal playoff positions are more relaxed and under little threat and finish the season protecting their main players and using their backups to be fresh and ready for playoffs which could effect the rest of the whole league, losing games near end they wouldn't normally because they are comfortable way sooner in say early April. why should a team who's so far away from top 2 get a shot at joining them in the Prem? they may do shit in playoffs, but in one off games, who knows? unless whoever made this up wants to see more teams do worse than Derby did?!? these teams get a chance to play bigger teams with the luck of a cup draw, they shouldn't have a chance by one off games, they've had 46 games to 'normally' achieve that. probably same people who made semi finals at Wembley not neutral grounds and have the main stadium for the main event. Sunderland finished twenty odd points behind Burnley and Leeds yet they are doing much better so I'm not sure the Derby argument holds up Teams know if you don't finish in the top two then its the play offs and the lottery that comes with it, its nothing new Quote
athywhite1958 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 How many points did we finish above Tranmere in 91 and they went up Quote
Didledee Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) 25 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Sunderland finished twenty odd points behind Burnley and Leeds yet they are doing much better so I'm not sure the Derby argument holds up Teams know if you don't finish in the top two then its the play offs and the lottery that comes with it, its nothing new it's a good point about Sunderland and also if you look at Oxford who beat us, they were very far behind Derby and Pompey(and us) yet the following season they finished near to them in the Championship, so it's not a given for a team to do terrible, each season with new players is different, I just don't like the idea of giving teams who normally wouldn't finish in the playoffs an opportunity to go up if they haven't been able to after 46 games normally, I know some seasons there could be just a few points separeting say 4th/5th/6th/7th/8th etc so it's not like they'll always be a big gap in ability, but I think increasing playoff spots means there's less reward for finishing higher and giving teams lower an opportunity to take your place in a league above I'm totally fine with the playoffs as they are, there is zero need for it be extended, unless of course it's all about money or if one of the decision makers who thought of this idea supports a team who constantly finishes just outside the playoffs lol, when the clubs voted for this to happen, who exactly votes yes? is it ultimately the owner? Edited March 5 by Didledee Quote
Rival Son Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Sweep said: Play Offs should always involve a team from the Division above, as it used to Couldn’t disagree more. Teams in higher leagues have a much higher playing budget. Totally unfair. if you finish bottom 3/4, off you go. Quote
paulhanley Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Do not agree that 8th should be in with a sniff of promotion. I do agree that if they are going to introduce that system higher placed teams should have home advantage in one off games. Indeed I think that should be introduced throughout the whole play offs and forget about Wembley. If you are going to have play offs finishing position has to count for something. At the moment it counts for little. Quote
Dr Faustus Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Some right dinosaurs here 😂 Things evolve, rightly or wrongly. It’s like when you go to Tesco (Walkden especially) and they’ve moved the aisles- I hate the cunts, have a strop, but ultimately carry on. Like the champions league etc they are all businesses and will try to maximise every penny. Quote
gonzo Posted March 5 Posted March 5 You'll just end up with championship midtable fodder in the prem getting twatted every week. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Utter dogshit. Robbing cunts. May well backfire. Hope it does. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted March 5 Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, gonzo said: You'll just end up with championship midtable fodder in the prem getting twatted every week. Up until last few games Wolves have been getting twatted every week and they've had a good number of seasons in the prem You'll always have the likes of Burnley as the perennial yo-yo club so it may not be much different as is especially if a loaded club gets there from 7th or 8th and they spend like Sunderland have Quote
desperado Posted March 5 Posted March 5 31 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said: Some right dinosaurs here 😂 Things evolve, rightly or wrongly. It’s like when you go to Tesco (Walkden especially) and they’ve moved the aisles- I hate the cunts, have a strop, but ultimately carry on. Like the champions league etc they are all businesses and will try to maximise every penny. Exactly the same debate that was being had nearly 40 years ago. Plenty of those disagreeing at the time don’t mind now. New champions league format, winter World Cup. Of course the motives behind it are money related and dubious, but these changes often aren’t as bad as what some folk anticipate and sometimes turn out to be ok. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, paulhanley said: Do not agree that 8th should be in with a sniff of promotion. I do agree that if they are going to introduce that system higher placed teams should have home advantage in one off games. Indeed I think that should be introduced throughout the whole play offs and forget about Wembley. If you are going to have play offs finishing position has to count for something. At the moment it counts for little. Agree totally, players in 10th position with a game to go can end up getting promotion. Teams in 13th in March win a game and start saying they're having a good season coz they're 5 points off the play offs! The term "play offs" goes from signifying success to something that's achieved by a third of all teams however bad they are. On another note - this means our seasons will end even earlier. I'm no fan of the season carrying on till mid May etc, but for it to finish around mid April is another nail in the coffin of our football season, more Saturdays without a game and more cramming games into midweek. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, paulhanley said: Do not agree that 8th should be in with a sniff of promotion. I do agree that if they are going to introduce that system higher placed teams should have home advantage in one off games. Indeed I think that should be introduced throughout the whole play offs and forget about Wembley. If you are going to have play offs finishing position has to count for something. At the moment it counts for little. I went off at a tangent as usual, but I meant to also add that the "one off game" is asking for an undeserved shock to happen. Everyone says the play offs is a lottery but with 2 legged games its rare for the worse team over the 180 minutes to win. With a one off game, it just takes a dodgy sending off or penalty in the first half (and you can see us being the victims!) and 46 games go up in smoke because someone like Wycombe or Peterboro are capable of shit housing their way to a 1-0 win against 10 men in one game. Very unjust. 15 points clear and one foul or pass from Bonham to Sheehan can effectively decide the season. Quote
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