miamiwhite Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 On 14/11/2025 at 12:38, Ani said: Or someone attending a fund raiser for Sinn Fein , although someone attending an event to raise money for a terrorist organisation is slightly different than politicians meeting after the ceasefire or earlier to discuss how to end the troubles. So to be clear Trump attended a fund raiser for the IRA, apparently did not contribute on the night. So he would rather be known as a free loader than a terrorist sympathiser. Personally if invited to a fund raiser for terrorists I would say no. Just avoids any confusion. To be fair, both men are peacemakers and Sinn Fein aren't a fundraiser for the IRA 😉 t Quote
boltonboris Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 To be fair, I think it’s great progress for a conservative and religious nuthouse like America to have an LGBTQ+ president. Quote
Bertie Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 Excellent. More evidence of MAGA falling apart over Epstein. MTG is herself a right-wing fruitcake but glorious to see Trump turn on her given she wants the files published. It’s going to happen soon and there’s nothing he can do about it…. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wv4dx05q5o Quote
Cheese Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 1 hour ago, Bertie said: Excellent. More evidence of MAGA falling apart over Epstein. MTG is herself a right-wing fruitcake but glorious to see Trump turn on her given she wants the files published. It’s going to happen soon and there’s nothing he can do about it…. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wv4dx05q5o Wouldn't be surprised if he invades Venezuela and declares a National Emergency next week. Quote
wakey Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 3 hours ago, Bertie said: Excellent. More evidence of MAGA falling apart over Epstein. MTG is herself a right-wing fruitcake but glorious to see Trump turn on her given she wants the files published. It’s going to happen soon and there’s nothing he can do about it…. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wv4dx05q5o assuming it gets through the congress vote, it's still got to get through the senate. then Trump has to sign it. best outcome is it gets through both houses but he won't sign it. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 46 minutes ago, wakey said: assuming it gets through the congress vote, it's still got to get through the senate. then Trump has to sign it. best outcome is it gets through both houses but he won't sign it. That article says unclassified files If anyone influential or high up or Trump himself is in it, could those bits suddenly become classified? Apart from the ones thst mention Bill Clinton If he's in them Quote
Winchester White Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: That article says unclassified files If anyone influential or high up or Trump himself is in it, could those bits suddenly become classified? Apart from the ones thst mention Bill Clinton If he's in them Aye, if they ever get released there will be more marked out in black than actual content. Quote
gonzo Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 Cat Pigeons Donald Trump urges Republicans to vote for release of Epstein files | US News | Sky News https://share.google/wpCphqwSE1XasMHP0 Quote
Zico Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 17 minutes ago, gonzo said: Cat Pigeons Donald Trump urges Republicans to vote for release of Epstein files | US News | Sky News https://share.google/wpCphqwSE1XasMHP0 that's the spirit even if he's perfectly innocent in all of this, be good to know who else might not be Quote
Spider Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 Won’t happen. Hes thrown Clinton into the mix and it might get mired in legals again. He really doesn’t want them released does he? Quote
gonzo Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 5 minutes ago, Spider said: Won’t happen. Hes thrown Clinton into the mix and it might get mired in legals again. He really doesn’t want them released does he? Apart from the bit where he's just said he does? Quote
kent_white Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Cat Pigeons Donald Trump urges Republicans to vote for release of Epstein files | US News | Sky News https://share.google/wpCphqwSE1XasMHP0 I don't think he's got any choice really. He's done everything in his power to prevent their release - and now it's inevitable that they are going to get released he's jumped on board. So now he's going to a) not be implicated at all in any of the document and can happily flick the v sign to his doubters or b) be implicated - but claim it's all a hoax/fake news/democrat witch hunt. And also say 'why would I have called for their release if I thought I might be implicated' If it's b then people are really going to have to have a long hard think about whether they agree with his take and continue to back him. Quote
Zico Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 41 minutes ago, gonzo said: Apart from the bit where he's just said he does? it's all getting a bit murky he's been saying it's all a hoax and they don't exist now he's asking for others to be invetigated https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/14/politics/trump-epstein-doj-investigate-enemies and the suggestion here is if there are investigations ongoing, they can't be released https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/16/trump-epstein-files-republican "And I have another concern about these investigations that he’s announced. If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can’t be released. “So, this might be a big smokescreen, these investigations, to open a bunch of them, as a last-ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files,” he added. fuck knows if he's not protecting himself, he might be protecting people he knows but ultimately its about getting justice for the victims, so get it all out in the open and anyone like Andrew can pay the price for what they've been up to Quote
Duck Egg Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 Fair play to that mentalist Marjorie Taylor Greene for sticking to her guns and insisting the docs are released. Seems she came under a lot of pressure, "Marjorie Traitor Greene" as the Don calls her, but she's forced his hand. Quote
Spider Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 3 hours ago, gonzo said: Apart from the bit where he's just said he does? I have a hunch he wants it to look that way but knows this will end up getting tangled in legal red tape so he can say "Well I was ok with it but the lawyers are involved now yadda yadda teflon coated cunt blah blah" Trump playbook to a tee. Quote
wakey Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 I've said it previously, but the congress vote (which would have won bigly anyway) is only the first step. Trump could still get it stopped by rallying senate to vote against it or simply not signing it if senate also passed the vote - although that wouldn't look good for him. Instead - as someone pointed out earlier, start a shit load of investigations and claim the files can't be released whilst investigations are ongoing. Bit of a cunt acting like a bit of a cunt shocker. Quote
Ani Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 The number of people who think the releasing of the files will embarrass the Republicans seems about equal with the number that think they will embarrass the Democrats. Very few seem to think the point is to expose people involved in sexual abuse. Which is equally embarassing for both ‘sides’. Quote
Cheese Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 36 minutes ago, Ani said: The number of people who think the releasing of the files will embarrass the Republicans seems about equal with the number that think they will embarrass the Democrats. Very few seem to think the point is to expose people involved in sexual abuse. Which is equally embarassing for both ‘sides’. I hope every fucker involved is far more than embarrassed. Send the cunts down. Quote
Sweep Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 When they are eventually released, they'll be so heavily redacted, that they'll make fuck all sense anyway. Quote
green genie Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 1 hour ago, Sweep said: When they are eventually released, they'll be so heavily redacted, that they'll make fuck all sense anyway. Maybe the delay is trying to get those stupid typex scroll tape applicators to work Quote
royal white Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 10 hours ago, gonzo said: Cat Pigeons Donald Trump urges Republicans to vote for release of Epstein files | US News | Sky News https://share.google/wpCphqwSE1XasMHP0 Can’t be true. @London Wanderersays he’s desperate for them not to be released. Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 10 minutes ago, royal white said: Can’t be true. @London Wanderersays he’s desperate for them not to be released. He was up until a few days ago. Were you not reading the news ? 😂 It was being written all over the shop. Now he's saying they should. He spins himself in fucking circles constantly. Think Kent's post sums it up Quote
bolty58 Posted November 17, 2025 Posted November 17, 2025 9 hours ago, kent_white said: I don't think he's got any choice really. He's done everything in his power to prevent their release - and now it's inevitable that they are going to get released he's jumped on board. So now he's going to a) not be implicated at all in any of the document and can happily flick the v sign to his doubters or b) be implicated - but claim it's all a hoax/fake news/democrat witch hunt. And also say 'why would I have called for their release if I thought I might be implicated' If it's b then people are really going to have to have a long hard think about whether they agree with his take and continue to back him. No credit for anything ever eh? No surprises. We saw this when he stopped the carnage in Gaza. Quote
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