kent_white Posted March 23 Posted March 23 18 minutes ago, Manchester_whites said: Trump must have been thinking about Pam Bondi when he was posting that 😉 🤣 - or any other woman to be fair Quote
Bertie Posted March 23 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Cheese said: Iran denies any such talks have taken place. What a surprise. He’ll have been talking to himself again and simply making sh1t up. He’ll also have been tipping his billionaire mates off with insider knowledge to buy/sell stock just before he posted this as well of course (stock markets jumped 2%). The art of the conman. Quote
kent_white Posted March 23 Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, Bertie said: He’ll have been talking to himself again and simply making sh1t up. He’ll also have been tipping his billionaire mates off with insider knowledge to buy/sell stock just before he posted this as well of course (stock markets jumped 2%). The art of the conman. Just watching Starmer in front of a select committee and he does seem to be saying that some sort of talks are taking place. Quote
green genie Posted March 23 Posted March 23 29 minutes ago, kent_white said: Just watching Starmer in front of a select committee and he does seem to be saying that some sort of talks are taking place. Tbf that’s what Taco’s team is telling him Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 23 Posted March 23 He’s well out his depth with this conflict isn’t he. All good news for getting the Dems back in Quote
kent_white Posted March 23 Posted March 23 9 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: He’s well out his depth with this conflict isn’t he. All good news for getting the Dems back in I listened to his interview on the tarmac today. He's still blaming them for everything! 🤣 Quote
Ani Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 23/03/2026 at 14:52, Bertie said: He’ll have been talking to himself again and simply making sh1t up. He’ll also have been tipping his billionaire mates off with insider knowledge to buy/sell stock just before he posted this as well of course (stock markets jumped 2%). The art of the conman. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg547ljepvzo Remember when people got annoyed that Starmer declared someone had paid for his glasses ? Quote
kent_white Posted March 24 Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, Ani said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg547ljepvzo Remember when people got annoyed that Starmer declared someone had paid for his glasses ? 🤣🤣 And the Arsenal tickets don't forget! And we all know who THEIR arch rivals are. Bloody anti-semite! Quote
mickbrown Posted March 24 Posted March 24 He’s clearly senile as fuck. He’s just shouting nonsense every five minutes Quote
kent_white Posted March 24 Posted March 24 19 minutes ago, mickbrown said: He’s clearly senile as fuck. He’s just shouting nonsense every five minutes See I don't see him as any more or less senile than his first time in office. He was telling people to drink bleach at the time of you remember 😁 it's not like the warning signs weren't there. In some ways he was lucky that COVID meant he couldn't make as much of a fool of himself on the international stage as he is now. Quote
Burnden Pies Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Plus in his first time he had some people around him who would put the brakes on many of his wackiest and maniacal ideas. Unfortunately this time around he has surrounded himself with spineless incompetent sycophants Quote
Bertie Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) Was reading an article about Trump and his philosophy and behaviours, and how these were influenced by a mentor he had - Roy Cohn. Sheds light on how he behaves in his personal, business and political lives. Some may admire him, some may hate him, but explains the methods in his madness, no better example than Iran atm. It’s a long cut/paste but the 6 “rules” in bold say it all. Apologies if posted before. 1. Never apologize or admit wrongdoing, ever. Cohn viewed contrition as weakness and would rather die (literally, as it turned out) than acknowledge error or fault. As journalist Ken Auletta, who covered Cohn extensively, noted, “The idea that you can admit a mistake is not part of Roy’s genetic code.” This principle would become so fundamental to Trump’s approach that even faced with irrefutable evidence—a recorded confession of sexual assault on the Access Hollywood tape, for instance—he would deny, deflect, and attack rather than offer the slightest acknowledgment of impropriety. 2. Always counter-attack, and always with greater force than you received. When criticized or accused, Cohn’s response was invariably to hit back harder, to escalate, to make the accuser regret ever mentioning his name. As Cohn himself explained to a reporter: "I bring out the worst in my enemies, and that’s how I get them to defeat themselves.” This tactic became Trump’s signature move, whether attacking Gold Star parents who criticized him, mocking a disabled reporter who questioned his claims, or threatening critics with lawsuits and retribution. 3. Use the legal system as a weapon, not a recourse for justice. Cohn taught Trump that lawsuits were instruments of intimidation, not vehicles for dispute resolution. He filed cases not to win—though winning was nice—but to punish, to harass, and to silence. The expense and stress of litigation was the point, not the legal outcome. Trump would eventually be involved in over 3,500 lawsuits—an unprecedented number for any American businessperson or politician—using the courts not to seek justice but to exhaust opponents with fewer resources. 4. Manipulate the media ruthlessly. Cohn was a master at planting stories, cultivating journalists, and creating controversy to serve his ends. He understood that perception trumped reality, that bold claims often went unchallenged, and that most people would remember the accusation but not the retraction. Trump elevated this approach to an art form, calling reporters using pseudonyms like “John Barron” to plant favorable stories about himself, staging pseudo-events to attract coverage, and later, using Twitter to bypass media filters entirely and inject his unfiltered messages directly into the public consciousness. 5. Use fear as both shield and sword. Cohn understood that people who are afraid—of communists, of crime, of social change, of the “other”—are easier to manipulate and more willing to accept authoritarian solutions. He helped McCarthy weaponize the Red Scare, stoking paranoia about secret communists undermining America from within. Trump would adapt this tactic to the 21st century, stoking fears about immigrants, Muslims, “inner city” crime, and later, a “deep state” conspiracy, always positioning himself as the only solution to these terrifying threats. 6. Build a fortress of loyalty around yourself. Cohn demanded absolute devotion from his clients and associates, and he repaid it in kind, at least until they were no longer useful. He created a network of mutual obligation and fear that served as both sword and shield in his battles. Trump’s infamous demand for loyalty—from James Comey, from his cabinet members, from Republican legislators—and his swift punishment of perceived disloyalty, all echo Cohn’s approach to power. Edited March 25 by Bertie Quote
Nowack Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) Looks very similar to Umberto Eco how to spot a fascist. Edited March 25 by Nowack Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt Quote
Dimron Posted March 25 Posted March 25 A Democrat has won the Florida Special Election.... one of her constituents is a certain Donald Trump 😆 Quote
TrickyTrotter Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Read this in a long article about US (lack of) strategy and that Iran won't negotiate for now. Donald won't want to send ground troops in, but may be forced to in an attempt to bring Iran to the table. The result is a fairly classic escalation trap: once the conflict starts, it is extremely costly for either side to ever back down, which ensures that the conflict continues long past it being in the interests of either party. Every day this war goes on make both the United States and Iran weaker, poorer and less secure but it is very hard for either side to back down because there are huge costs connected to being the party that backs down. So both sides ‘escalate to de-escalate’ (this phrase is generally as foolish as it sounds), intensifying the conflict in an effort to hit hard enough to force the other guy to blink first. But since neither party can back down unilaterally and survive politically, there’s practically no amount of pain that can force them to do so. Quote
Ani Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Dimron said: A Democrat has won the Florida Special Election.... one of her constituents is a certain Donald Trump 😆 Trump voted by postal ballot apparently. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 26 Posted March 26 14 hours ago, Nowack said: Looks very similar to Umberto Eco how to spot a fascist. He's alot of bad things but he's not a fascist Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He's alot of bad things but he's not a fascist Aye. One or two disturbing trends, but a far cry from fascism. Quote
Dimron Posted March 26 Posted March 26 11 hours ago, Ani said: Trump voted by postal ballot apparently. He'll be complaining about pregnant chads next 😃 Quote
Dimron Posted March 26 Posted March 26 12 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said: Read this in a long article about US (lack of) strategy and that Iran won't negotiate for now. Donald won't want to send ground troops in, but may be forced to in an attempt to bring Iran to the table. The result is a fairly classic escalation trap: once the conflict starts, it is extremely costly for either side to ever back down, which ensures that the conflict continues long past it being in the interests of either party. Every day this war goes on make both the United States and Iran weaker, poorer and less secure but it is very hard for either side to back down because there are huge costs connected to being the party that backs down. So both sides ‘escalate to de-escalate’ (this phrase is generally as foolish as it sounds), intensifying the conflict in an effort to hit hard enough to force the other guy to blink first. But since neither party can back down unilaterally and survive politically, there’s practically no amount of pain that can force them to do so. Trump's already started to finger Pete Hesgeth (who should have gone after the what's app nonsense), fall guy in waiting. Harold Wilson's greatest achievement was to keep us out of Vietnam despite similar pressures from the US... quote "if the Russians land in Sussex don't expect help from us" Quote
Popular Post Sweep Posted March 26 Popular Post Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, Dimron said: Trump's already started to finger Pete Hesgeth (who should have gone after the what's app nonsense), fall guy in waiting. At least he's moved on from kids Quote
kent_white Posted March 26 Posted March 26 51 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Aye. One or two disturbing trends, but a far cry from fascism. I think it's a little more than one or two 😁 but I agree he's not a fascist. I don't really think he's got much more of a personal ideology other than what he thinks makes him look good. Quote
mickbrown Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Fascist? Probably not, think that needs some sort of warped sense of loyalty to others Narcissistic senile cunt? Oh aye Quote
Nowack Posted March 26 Posted March 26 7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He's alot of bad things but he's not a fascist I didn’t say he was a fascist. What I was pointing out is that Umberto Eco wrote an essay in the mid‑1990s called “Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt”. resembling the article in the post above. In it, he outlined fourteen traits that can appear in different forms of what he called “Ur‑Fascism” — recurring patterns of thought or behaviour that historically show up in fascistic ideologies. It isn’t about labelling specific individuals as fascists. It’s about identifying certain characteristics or tendencies that might echo aspects of earlier fascist movements, even if they don’t add up to full‑blown fascism. He also makes it clear that these traits aren’t a checklist, and that not all need to be present for the comparison to be relevant. The reason I mentioned it is because some of the traits Eco described reminded me of what was quoted in the post above. That’s all. The essay was written long before Trump was a political figure, so it obviously wasn’t aimed at him or anyone contemporary. Quote
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