RUREADY2ROLL Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Weird ground, poor performance. Big gulf in quality but they weren't all that. All Darren Pratley's fault apparently. He is not the only one who is awful at the moment. First half tonight Pratley might as well of been asleep - just a lazy get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I would guess that most people have been going long enough to see us beat Atletico Madrid, draw with Bayern Munich and finish in the top half of the Premier League with Nicky Hunt at fullback. What was our wage budget relative to the teams we were beating then? Now we're resigning ourselves to losing to nil every week. I like Parky, and have no desire to see him get the boot, but we've got to start showing signs of life soon. Non-league teams would've given West Ham a better game than we did in the first half. We got better after that, and I quite liked the look of Earing, but there's not much to take into the Brentford game that'd give you much confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The first half tonight was very very poor in terms of quality. But it's nothing like as bad as we've seen over the past few seasons in terms of lack of effort. Away at Brentford, Fulham and Forest all spring to mind. Ultimately we have a squad of players who are way out of their depth. We've got a Division 1 team playing in the Championship and tonight playing against premier league opposition. I've called for the manager's head a few times in recent seasons when I thought he could be getting more from the players. Unfortunately I don't think mourinhno, pep or big sam would help with this lot. They're just not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jturner Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Good point there Tombwfc. Back in 2001 when we were newly promoted and had the lowest wage bill in the Premier League, we somehow managed to beat both Man Utd and Liverpool.There has been no such overachievement from Parky The financial advantage Derby and Leeds have over us is huge but i would think (know) is less than the advantage Man Utd and Liverpool had over us in 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 20, 2017 Members Share Posted September 20, 2017 Good point there Tombwfc. Back in 2001 when we were newly promoted and had the lowest wage bill in the Premier League, we somehow managed to beat both Man Utd and Liverpool.There has been no such overachievement from Parky The financial advantage Derby and Leeds have over us is huge but i would think (know) is less than the advantage Man Utd and Liverpool had over us in 2001. Citing Leeds as part of your argument is not difficult to pick holes in. They were in such financial dire straits they nearly went to the wall at one stage not too long ago. This should be cause for optimism as if they have been able to turn it around then so should we (off a lower support base I admit). 'No such over achievement from Parky'? Have to disagree - IMO he over achieved with what he had to work with last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just got back. My mood when I get up for work in 3 hours will probably decide that I won't be going to Bristol next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Still on the bleeding coach!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Parkinson picking out the fans again for treatment for pratley. Although he might be right he'd be better off staying clear of saying fans do x and y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 It's a slippery slope when you start doing that, whether he's right or wrong isn't really important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just back & that was grim. From less than 5 minutes we were easily beaten by stronger, faster & much better players & our players who came in for this won't be pushing for a 1st choice start off this showing. Desperately looking for positives, at least we didn't completely roll over & improved quite a bit 2nd half but West Ham really should have been 5 or 6 up at h/t. As for Pratley, i think he's hopeless & would be happy if he never played for us again, but he was no worse than the rest last night & there is no doubting the effort he puts in, so abuse of him is bellendery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarian1979 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Not for sacking him now. Too early. By the going down with ten points and keeping him is a fucking ridiculous comment. Keeping managers after they've relegated the side is the fuck we've made previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 20, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 Still on the bleeding coach!! You deserve a fucking massive medal. All that went do. Must be bonkers like but I doff my cap. I looked at the score twice and barely gave a fook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Still on the bleeding coach!! What the hell?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkden White Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I'm along way from wanting Parky gone and I'm certainly not bothered about the cup. I didn't expect much from this season but I did expect us to be hard to beat but for whatever reason we are the exact opposite at present. Don't know what's gone on but something has changed and it's not all about money or the improvement in quality in the championship. That was far from a youth team last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 You deserve a fucking massive medal. All that went do. Must be bonkers like but I doff my cap. I looked at the score twice and barely gave a fook. regretting now tho knackered????, it was something different at least going to a match not getting stressed out over the score for a change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 What the hell?!oh it was hell Waiting around half an hour or so for a lad, his mates arguing we should wait and rightly so the driver did one Road works/speed restrictions???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossi Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Well that was a most unlike West Ham Cup performance. I'd you played the first half the way you played most of the second, you'd probably have got a result. With the run you've been on though, it's not hard to understand why your boys didn't have the belief from the kick off. Best of luck for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 20, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 20, 2017 Well that was a most unlike West Ham Cup performance. I'd you played the first half the way you played most of the second, you'd probably have got a result. With the run you've been on though, it's not hard to understand why your boys didn't have the belief from the kick off. Best of luck for the rest of the season. Coming to something when a whammer talks more sense than wanderers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 That wasn't the West Ham I'm aware of, trying to take the piss across a 30 yard gap trying to pretend they're ever going to feel at home in that white elephant of a ground. That is a dead club to me now, people walking about with printed off tickets asking where the club shop is. Totally gone. And a few half and half scarves knocking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 20, 2017 Members Share Posted September 20, 2017 Well that was a most unlike West Ham Cup performance. I'd you played the first half the way you played most of the second, you'd probably have got a result. With the run you've been on though, it's not hard to understand why your boys didn't have the belief from the kick off. Best of luck for the rest of the season. Same to you Yossi. Go on and win it then we can say we were knocked out by the eventual winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 And a few half and half scarves knocking about Radcliffe White bought one Embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Radcliffe White bought one Embarrassing pinned on wall mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Generally I wouldn't get rid of the manager, but I am a little baffled about his team set up and the players he then plays in them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 i knew itd be hard, but the owen coyle level of conceding goals is not good. we have to score 3 or 4 goals just to draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passmosster Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The performance didn't surprise me one bit when you saw the team sheet. But effort wise I had no complaints. Morais just isn't a wing back and their left winger was given far too much space. Don't know if their second was offside, but the lino was in no position to see it. I was right behind him in the West Ham end and he was so slow that he missed a few definite offs. Playing a high line against speedy attackers is a risk even more so with a crap lino. And a few Tony Adams type arms in the air gestures to him might have improved his willingness to raise his flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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