deane koontz Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Now then now then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Massive nonce alert. Aye alreet I'm not going to be sending pms inviting a meet up up but I do wonder if that would be said to my face - a rather harsh and damning statement and leap made because I'm not absolutely outraged by what Spacey did or didn't do - he certainly didn't have relations with him. . . anyway, I've made my feelings and pov pretty clear - read into it what you will. Brass Eye was made for folk like you to have the piss taken out of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Has me perplexed this one. Possible reasons? He holds himself to such high standards he felt compelled to go? There's more skeletons in the cupboard which are far worse that touching JBH's knee? A convenient reason to get out - he does not seem to have been happy in his job in recent times? If the JBH knee incident is the only 'transgression' then resignation seems extreme. He did say that he hadn’t lived up to what the military demands No mention of being a MP By all accounts he can’t even promise more won’t cone out It send an odd decision to make based on what I’ve heard but jumped before he was pushed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 2, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2017 Aye alreet I'm not going to be sending pms inviting a meet up up but I do wonder if that would be said to my face - a rather harsh and damning statement and leap made because I'm not absolutely outraged by what Spacey did or didn't do - he certainly didn't have relations with him. . . anyway, I've made my feelings and pov pretty clear - read into it what you will. Brass Eye was made for folk like you to have the piss taken out of! Spacey shouldn't have done it- we all agree on that. Can't say as I'm appalled by it; just seems another story about an hedonistic, devoid from reality industry. Having seen the fella on talk shows once or twice he came across as fucking creepy, a total weirdo. Upon reflection its probably no great surprise; just hope the authorities deal with him and his ilk properly. I think I get where your coming from; I remember Charlotte Church winning rear of the year. Very shortly after her sixteenth birthday- very bloody convenient- unless it developed overnight as she became 'legal'. Not an offence to admire her arse when plastered in the paper, but immoral when she was 15? Certainly a greyness to some moral areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There's a difference between eyeing up a 15 year olds arse and climbing bollock naked on to a 14 year old boy In a bedroom at a party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted November 2, 2017 Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2017 who said he was bollock naked? thing is, this is the next person I've read to come forward a 17 year old lad where nothing happened http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41828874 am sure there's more, but it's a whiffs of a bitch hunt so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 2, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2017 There's a difference between eyeing up a 15 year olds arse and climbing bollock naked on to a 14 year old boy In a bedroom at a party. As I stated. No arguments there. Can see his point re some grey areas though. Like a couple of 15 year olds in a sexual relationship- the day the eldest turns 16, would that person become a nonce if they had it off again? I know its a bit of a silly example, but its so difficult to moralise the whole area. We as a society have set age limits for various things and some of these have changed over time. Strangely in some parts of america folk can get wed a lot younger, as in plenty of other parts of the world. Personally, I'd like to think our moral standards are higher than some backwards individuals marrying twelve year olds in some dusty village in somewherestan. Despite this you can never fully 'moralise' everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There's a difference between eyeing up a 15 year olds arse and climbing bollock naked on to a 14 year old boy In a bedroom at a party.Its ok if it's in the thespian world ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Can’t say I’ve ever been invited. Mind you, if you like really shit house white wine, and lots of really pasty looking geeks, then come on in, the water’s fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Sometimes it works both ways, Fred Elliot, I say, Fred Elliot invited some legal lad from a bar back to his gaff to have a 'discussion about the theatre' and ended up twatted and robbed... Some discussion. Edited November 2, 2017 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Like a couple of 15 year olds in a sexual relationship- the day the eldest turns 16, would that person become a nonce if they had it off again? In the eyes of the law......yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Wasn't it around that time Bill Wyman was shagging 13 year old Mandy Smith, Without that much furore..? I seem to recall the media dubbing her a 'wild child', kind of pathetically excusing him in a way, should've been dubbing him dirty old fucking nonce. Je Suis Un Sex Case. Edited November 2, 2017 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 US filmmaker Tony Montana told Radar Online he suffered from PTSD for six months after Spacey allegedly grabbed his crotch in a Los Angeles bar in 2003... Say hello to my li'l frenn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 2, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2017 In the eyes of the law......yes Like a couple of 15 year olds in a sexual relationship- the day the eldest turns 16, would that person become a nonce if they had it off again? In the eyes of the law......yes Not quite so. You need to look up Romeo and Juliet Laws for the actual explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted November 2, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2017 If two kids are having sex and one turns 16 a while before the other then there is no way the CPS is going to prosecute the eldest. Neither is that person a nonce. Totally different to the case in point mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Wasn't it around that time Bill Wyman was shagging 13 year old Mandy Smith, Without that much furore..? I seem to recall the media dubbing her a 'wild child', kind of pathetically excusing him in a way, should've been dubbing him dirty old fucking nonce. Je Suis Un Sex Case. y did he never get done every man and is dog knew they were at it even her mum its always baffled me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There's a difference between eyeing up a 15 year olds arse and climbing bollock naked on to a 14 year old boy In a bedroom at a party. fuck me we had 4 in a double bed in Blackpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted November 2, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2017 I think the romeo and Juliet laws are an American thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There's a difference between eyeing up a 15 year olds arse and climbing bollock naked on to a 14 year old boy In a bedroom at a party. From all accounts that I've read, he was fully clothed and basically fell asleep on top of him. Was it stupid, and wrong? Of course. I have to side with madthatter a bit here though honestly. I've heard LOADS of stories of teenage boys putting themselves in this position because they suspect they are gay and can't discuss it with their peers and family because of the stigma, especially back in the era when this exchange took place. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here, and perhaps the kid changed his mind or has regrets years later. Milo Yiannopoulos has a story of a similar situation he put himself in when he was 14, and to this day he doesn't hold anything against the guy (I think it was a priest) who he was with. In fact, he claimed that he was the predator and not the adult. Here's the link to the video (obviously lots of talk of things you might not want to hear): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJhHwspZGcg&t=2m18s Just because YOU don't understand why something happens doesn't mean it's wrong. Is it against the law? Yes. Is it morally wrong? Debatable. Morality is relative after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted November 2, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2017 The government gave official guidance that it's not in the public interest to prosecute teenagers that are that close where the intercourse is deemed consentual by both parties. Even if it's taken further, it's more than likely it won't make it to court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 fuck me we had 4 in a double bed in Blackpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 From all accounts that I've read, he was fully clothed and basically fell asleep on top of him. Was it stupid, and wrong? Of course. I have to side with madthatter a bit here though honestly. I've heard LOADS of stories of teenage boys putting themselves in this position because they suspect they are gay and can't discuss it with their peers and family because of the stigma, especially back in the era when this exchange took place. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here, and perhaps the kid changed his mind or has regrets years later. Milo Yiannopoulos has a story of a similar situation he put himself in when he was 14, and to this day he doesn't hold anything against the guy (I think it was a priest) who he was with. In fact, he claimed that he was the predator and not the adult. Here's the link to the video (obviously lots of talk of things you might not want to hear): Just because YOU don't understand why something happens doesn't mean it's wrong. Is it against the law? Yes. Is it morally wrong? Debatable. Morality is relative after all. A gay hotel owner and very good friend of mine tells of a similar tale... He was 13, lived near Chorley in some catholic back water and knew he was queer. He also knew the local priest was a boy toucher and put it on a plate for him. The priest turned him down and went for his mate who was straight and ended up getting done for noncery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 fuck me we had 4 in a double bed in Blackpool Haha I cleaned the windows there today. (Totally unrelated to the story I just told btw) ....they didn't stop there either on the piss up. It was the vidella wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Haha I cleaned the windows there today. (Totally unrelated to the story I just told btw) ....they didn't stop there either on the piss up. It was the vidella wasn't it? I used to go to Blackpool loads of times in the mid 80s for the weekend, the BnBs on the streets near N Station have changed beyond belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I used to go to Blackpool loads of times in the mid 80s for the weekend, the BnBs on the streets near N Station have changed beyond belief. They have indeed mate. There's actually some lovely hotels amidst the depravity round dicky road and lord street. The nice ones seemed to have survived. Can only think of one stag hotel round there now as most won't take em, they seem to be concentrated round central nowadays. Blocking the north exit off at station and hotels doing double nighters only sorted that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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