Coronavirus

[Winchester White]

33 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

As you might know I’m not in favour of tier 3 unless hospitals overwhelmed, we’ve never even used the nightingale in manchester. 

If we find ourselves in the position of having to use the nightingale hospitals then we really will be in the shit.

[Spider]

Is it right that they’ve extended furlough until April now??

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Is it right that they’ve extended furlough until April now??

It is pal. You can bleat re Brexit for even longer on here and show pics of your Angus 🐄 🐮 

[Ani]

That level of infections no way can cut restrictions. Although might include 11k extra from Wales. Confirmed does include the 11k extra in Wales. 

Edited December 17, 2020 by Ani
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[dave2980]

36 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

As you might know I’m not in favour of tier 3 unless hospitals overwhelmed, we’ve never even used the nightingale in manchester. 

I'd read a few months ago that the Nightingales were being used for outpatient appointments and not Covid patients.

The reason being that there was more space available which meant they could get through the backlog quicker i.e. see a patient in one area and then see a second patient in another area while the first area was cleaned down.

Just now, Spider said:

Is it right that they’ve extended furlough until April now??

Yes

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, DazBob said:

And this is why Covid is here to stay for a good while longer.

As wank as all this is, you have a point.

I wonder if there is a sixth test they use when deciding tiers, and that involves reading social media posts and judging adherence.

Just drove through cheetham Hill and strange ways again.

Large groups congregating in door ways.

Coffee shop open with people sitting inside- its no wonder so many places are heading into tier 3.

 

[Not in Crawley]

54 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

As you might know I’m not in favour of tier 3 unless hospitals overwhelmed, we’ve never even used the nightingale in manchester. 

We didn't here I don't think either? Could be wrong.

Isn't tier 3 just to stop idiots taking the proverbial mile with the rules?

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

As wank as all this is, you have a point.

I wonder if there is a sixth test they use when deciding tiers, and that involves reading social media posts and judging adherence.

Just drove through cheetham Hill and strange ways again.

Large groups congregating in door ways.

Coffee shop open with people sitting inside- its no wonder so many places are heading into tier 3.

 

Strangeways there you went?

[Tombwfc]

16 minutes ago, Ani said:

That level of infections no way can cut restrictions. Although might include 11k extra from Wales. 

 

 

One thing I think would be worth doing, is the media separating the first wave death numbers from the second.

Most people just see the big number and assume they were all ages ago. On October 10th we were at 43,000 deaths. That's 23,000 in two months.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

37 minutes ago, Sweep said:

A decent pub that follows the COVID rules has to be a safe environment than Asda, but the Government obviously has decided otherwise.

 

I'm not so sure about that. Supermarkets often have high ceilings, ventilation and visits relatively short. Biggest danger I would imagine is in touching surfaces there, and use of gel will help.

Pubs, tend to be lower volume spaces, and folk will be in there for a while- you'd imagine breathing in contaminated air is the biggest issue here- like the bottom bull.

Can't stop folk from buying food, so something ends up being sacrificed.

[birch-chorley]

Aye, wouldn’t make a lot of sense starving 60m to death in order to save 500k from dying of Covid 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Aye, wouldn’t make a lot of sense starving 60m to death in order to save 500k from dying of Covid 

Could all go click and collect/delivery I suppose, apart from pension day, when all the crusties can have a slow, distanced and disinfected browse.

[birch-chorley]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Could all go click and collect/delivery I suppose, apart from pension day, when all the crusties can have a slow, distanced and disinfected browse.

20% of Tesco is now through the web site (C&C or delivery) 

Not 20% of customers mind, over index with the big baskets. Predominantly high affluence families, and both high / low affluence post families 

Problem is it costs a fortune to service, prices will need to increase to cover it long term 

[Sweep]

53 minutes ago, Spider said:

Is it right that they’ve extended furlough until April now??

Aye, so I suppose by the time it ends some people will have been on furlough for a full year

[Tonge moor green jacket]

16 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

20% of Tesco is now through the web site (C&C or delivery) 

Not 20% of customers mind, over index with the big baskets. Predominantly high affluence families, and both high / low affluence post families 

Problem is it costs a fortune to service, prices will need to increase to cover it long term 

Will in store staff numbers start to fall though as it progresses?

I see sainsbury's are closing butchery counters- presumably customer habits are changing fairly rapidly. 

Anyway, with collecting shopping for multiple households for 9 months now, we've built up a shed load of nectar points- every cloud...

[jules_darby]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

That level of infections no way can cut restrictions. Although might include 11k extra from Wales. Confirmed does include the 11k extra in Wales. 

More testing = more positive 

Deaths are with it not of it; larger picture not showing drastic changes from 2019

Very generic points but worth considering before we even consider the negative net effects of ongoing restrictions that will fuck over a lot of people and services from 2021 for years.

I’m v passionate about this but nothing from a self-centred position; we’re doing really well, but I’m super concerned for many others 

[birch-chorley]

16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Will in store staff numbers start to fall though as it progresses?

I see sainsbury's are closing butchery counters- presumably customer habits are changing fairly rapidly. 

Anyway, with collecting shopping for multiple households for 9 months now, we've built up a shed load of nectar points- every cloud...

A lot of the counters have gone to save costs 

the only way internet grocery shopping can become more profitable is if you have dark stores (for .com customers only, no walk ins) with automation doing large parts of it 

Paying someone to go round picking peoples shopping for the customers is expensive 

[DazBob]

46 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Could all go click and collect/delivery I suppose, apart from pension day, when all the crusties can have a slow, distanced and disinfected browse.

Ha, imagine trying to get a delivery/ collection slot.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

A lot of the counters have gone to save costs 

the only way internet grocery shopping can become more profitable is if you have dark stores (for .com customers only, no walk ins) with automation doing large parts of it 

Paying someone to go round picking peoples shopping for the customers is expensive 

That's what I was envisaging: smaller separate stores, and maybe click and collect/deliver from larger warehouse type place as you say.

Only time will tell I suppose as to where habits will lead.

[Winchester White]

Things are very bad in Wales, their ICU wards are rammed.

https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/kpoa5V

 

Sweden has failed according to their King and PM.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55347021

 

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Sweep said:

Aye, so I suppose by the time it ends some people will have been on furlough for a full year

What are the furlough rules these days

Can we not get furloughed folk doing something useful?

[Spider]

25 minutes ago, Casino said:

What are the furlough rules these days

Can we not get furloughed folk doing something useful?

Yes

make the cunts stay indoors and stop spreading this fucking virus

 

[birch-chorley]

2 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Things are very bad in Wales, their ICU wards are rammed.

https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/kpoa5V

 

Sweden has failed according to their King and PM.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55347021

 

Their death rate per 100,000 is still considerably better than ours, their economy has performed multiple times better than ours also 

I wonder what that king would make of our numbers 

[buckhurstwhite]

4 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

A lot of the counters have gone to save costs 

 

Round by us Sainsburys closed the "deli" counters back in April/May. They have now opened a Sushi counter, very odd make of it as you wish

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, buckhurstwhite said:

Round by us Sainsburys closed the "deli" counters back in April/May. They have now opened a Sushi counter, very odd make of it as you wish

Sushi will be an outside company effectively as a tenant I imagine? Possibly sushi daily? 
 

asda are slowly doing the same and it will become a common theme of “food to go” replacing the deli counters.