Coronavirus

[Sweep]

12 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

She’s quite popular with PL players 👀

who is she?

[Sweep]

13 minutes ago, Morizio said:

She is a fucking cock and being dragged down a cobbled street by a milk float would be to kid to her. Utter cretinous woman. 

I think that's a bit harsh, she was just too weak and was to a certain extent shafted by members of her own party. I felt sorry for her in the end, I bet she's bloody glad she's not got the top job now though

[deane koontz]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

who is she?

Elle Brooke according to my search engine. she claims to turn porn into art.

[Farrelli]

23 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

A few Tory MPs have been nabbed this morning commenting on a doctored video from a far right account 

Haha, very predictable. Miami will be posting it as a fact later.

[Zico]

57 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

It may be perceived as my political bias as I'm sure the little self-righteous clique on here will be eager to trot out again as they invariably do when they hear something that sits uncomfortably with them, but I'm actually surprised by this statement as the only bit of misleading/downright lying that I saw was when Boris claimed that the Government website didn't say what it said about care homes despite the fact that it's on record and millions of people have seen it, me included.

If Starmer starts misleading and lying to people I'll be very disappointed with him as that type of crass politics doesn't come as naturally to him as it does to Boris/Cummings and as a highly respected British born lawyer and Knight of the Realm he has every incentive to remain honest, but as you have accused him perhaps you could provide some evidence of your claim?

I'd be very surprised and disappointed if what you are saying is anything other than bullshit.

 

 

12 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Go on then, I'll bite. Misled? 

How so?

 

think it's this that Lynda posted, it's a legit letter, but also looks like she's made her mind up about Starmer (though that description could apply to many)

 

[Zico]

this is what was said in parliament:

 

based on this:

 

[Zico]

so I'm not sure what the beef is

[deane koontz]

19 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

She’s quite popular with PL players 👀

Here she is trying to find her dignity

 

[Morizio]

11 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I think that's a bit harsh, she was just too weak and was to a certain extent shafted by members of her own party. I felt sorry for her in the end, I bet she's bloody glad she's not got the top job now though

Reap what you sow. A plague on her. 

[Horwich]

This fella fancies a bit more time off. Sack him.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-primary-headteacher-writes-to-parents-saying-social-distancing-at-school-impossible-11988012

[Morizio]

7 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

so I'm not sure what the beef is

So are saying that ‘Lynda’ is full of shit?

[Zico]

6 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

Here she is trying to find her dignity

 

she's one classy chick

 

[Zico]

Just now, Morizio said:

So are saying that ‘Lynda’ is full of shit?

well no

BJ took objection to what Starmer asked

but from the look at the transcription I'm not sure why

but Lynda thinks he's a peado defender anyway, so she's bias, probably

[Escobarp]

33 minutes ago, Morizio said:

She is a fucking cock and being dragged down a cobbled street by a milk float would be to kid to her. Utter cretinous woman. 

Looks like I have a bite feels like a big one 

[Morizio]

3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

well no

BJ took objection to what Starmer asked

but from the look at the transcription I'm not sure why

but Lynda thinks he's a peado defender anyway, so she's bias, probably

What is all this paedo defender slur that some are trying to throw?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Morizio said:

What is all this paedo defender slur that some are trying to throw?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He was head of cps when they squashed the investigations/allegations into saville originally no? 

[Zico]

Just now, Morizio said:

What is all this paedo defender slur that some are trying to throw?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I might be wrong, but, he was head of the CPS or something that determined there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute Saville on some cases that were presented a few years back, before he died

 

[Rudy]

29 minutes ago, Sweep said:

who is she?

Elle Brooke

[Zico]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

He was head of cps when they squashed the investigations/allegations into saville originally no? 

 

2 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

I might be wrong, but, he was head of the CPS or something that determined there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute Saville on some cases that were presented a few years back, before he died

 

upon further investigation, maybe not

https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2020/04/14/starmer-vs-the-trolls-brexiters-online-react-with-outrage-to

It is also misleading. Starmer was Director of Public Prosecutions and head of the CPS in 2009 but the decision not to charge the TV personality was taken by another prosecutor, after a series of police and prosecution failings. Savile's case may never have crossed Starmer's desk.

But in private Facebook groups, where users are asked to outline their commitment to Brexit before gaining membership, there are few voices to counter the post's simple argument.

In these digital spaces, many have made up their mind about Starmer. Fake news and dubious sources serve to shore up their opinions.

Starmer is inevitably attacked for his previous support for a second referendum.

MickyD posted the post on here as well

[Zico]

and then there's this:

https://labourlist.org/2020/05/tory-mps-share-doctored-video-of-starmer-promoted-by-far-right/

Conservative MPs have shared a video of Keir Starmer that was edited to be misleading and promoted by far-right accounts on social media to discredit the Labour leader.

Health minister Nadine Dorries, government whip Maria Caulfield and Lucy Allan this morning quote-tweeted a video post that claimed to show Starmer explaining his record as head of the Crown Prosecution Service.

It was claimed that Starmer was accounting for “why he didn’t prosecute grooming gangs”, when in fact he was explaining why he implemented reforms as the Director of Public Prosecutions.

[Ani]

Given the reaction of people on the right it would seem Labour have elected the right leader. 

[Morizio]

Thank you @ZicoKellyso the slur is that, unfounded bollocks. 

[peelyfeet]

13 hours ago, stevieb said:

Call me out for being dramatic but this is why we need to go back...

If primary teachers decide to stay at home til September we are entering a massive massive depression. 

On the whole women will take the brunt and stay at home on reducing furlough until end of October. The main bread winner will carry on working. There may be women who earn more than men but statistically that isn't now. 

There'll be no out of school clubs for the summer holidays able to offer the government guidelines 'social distancing' if the school can't offer it in June. If they can it'll be out of the price range of the average Joe. That means women on furlough will be at home on reduced wages over summer.

Potentially with the employer topping up wages to 80%. There's a good chance loads of women will be properly laid off at this point. August 

We then have leisure and tourism and loads of other industries 'going back' with restrictions at limited capacity, talking 30%. Loads more actual lay offs when this happens. 

Then you have households with significantly less money coming in and going out isn't a priority so therfore spending less on leisure etc. ...

It's a fucking shit show if we can't save a semblance of the economy we had now we're fucked. Covid will kill less than poverty caused by this in the next ten years (despite us having the world's best rescue package). 

FACT

But that's just me. 

I agree with some of what you've said, but I don't think it's going to be split along the lines of woman / man, and it's not as clear cut as you've portrayed above, and here's why I think that.

It's going to be a balancing act between getting the economy back asap and preventing a second peak.

If we get the economy back on track, but have a second peak with another lockdown, we're in a worse scenario than we are now, short and long term.

The govmts are going to unravel the restrictions bit by bit,  in order of those that they currently think will have the best effect on the economy and the least effect on spreading the virus. They'll measure the results here and in other countries, and then react to the results. 

We don't know yet how successful each removal will be, but ultimately we will get an idea.

If that means certain industries or pastimes get thrown to the dogs until we're out of this, so be it.

If that means schools are going to open and then get closed again (or only open to certain age groups) if the infection rate goes up because of it, so be it.

Some people are going to have big changes. International travel and supporting industries is going to have it v. bad I assume - even when we are allowed to return to travel, businesses travel is going to be reduced for years I would imagine - who's going to want to go to a business meeting in Wuhan if you can do it on zoom?

Some industries are going to almost fold, some others are going to boom, some are going to be laid off, some will have less hours, some household are going to have new breadwinners.

Business are going to lay off, or reduce the hours of unnecessary staff - Operations, IT, senior management (the structural parts of business) are more likely to stay and be pushed into doing other roles as well as their own - sales staff, production, admin, labourers etc are going to go be reduced in industries were demand drops. 

 

Edited May 14, 2020 by peelyfeet

[Tombwfc]

The guidance was out of date, and dangerously misleading to anyone who continued to follow it until it was changed on 12th March.

I think there's a credible arguement that this doesn't matter in the here and now and has become a sideshow. But it's pathetic for anyone to actually try and make the case that Boris was correct and Starmer wrong. 

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-care-homes-guidance/

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The same document also said: “Facemasks are only recommended to be worn by infected individuals when advised by a healthcare worker, to reduce the risk of transmitting the infection to other people. It remains very unlikely that people receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected.

 

 

Edited May 14, 2020 by Tombwfc

[Casino]

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