Underpants Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 If there's a billion zillion galaxy's out there then surely the odds are that there is intelligent life being on at least one planet. And if the rule of thumb on intelligent life is us then it's no wonder they haven't visited us. Since the dawn of time we haven't travelled farther than the nearest thing to us, the moon. And even that is up for debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted February 25, 2020 Members Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Underpants said: If there's a billion zillion galaxy's out there then surely the odds are that there is intelligent life being on at least one planet. And if the rule of thumb on intelligent life is us then it's no wonder they haven't visited us. Since the dawn of time we haven't travelled farther than the nearest thing to us, the moon. And even that is up for debate. Stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 25, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Underpants said: If there's a billion zillion galaxy's out there then surely the odds are that there is intelligent life being on at least one planet. And if the rule of thumb on intelligent life is us then it's no wonder they haven't visited us. Since the dawn of time we haven't travelled farther than the nearest thing to us, the moon. And even that is up for debate. The dawn of time being 1969 which was the first available opportunity We can't go to Venus, which is nearest as it's too hot We could go to Mars, but it would take 9 months, which is fine, but those who go would have to travel there more like this Than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said: Surely the Prime Directive means they could never make themselves known to us? Must have been observing the Platt Bridge area of Wiggin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: The dawn of time being 1969 which was the first available opportunity We can't go to Venus, which is nearest as it's too hot We could go to Mars, but it would take 9 months, which is fine, but those who go would have to travel there more like this Than this The dawn of time is the big bang. Now if the evolution of the planets in the zillion billion galaxy's is the same as ours then intelligent life would have just travelled to the garden shed just like us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 25, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Underpants said: The dawn of time is the big bang. Now if the evolution of the planets in the zillion billion galaxy's is the same as ours then intelligent life would have just travelled to the garden shed just like us. We can only compare ourselves to what we know The first rocket went into space the year before we last won the fa cup They'd stopped filming star trek tv shows before man landed on the moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Carter Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, kent_white said: I'm less convinced that there's intelligent life elsewhere than I was 10 or 15 years ago. With the technology we have and the length of time we've been looking for something - we should have spotted something by now. If there was anything to spot. It could be that the odds against intelligent life developing are so infinitesimally small that we're it. Or at least we're the first one to have reached a point of technological advancement to produce radio waves in our galaxy. Oh ye of little faith. Edited February 25, 2020 by Clarence Carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 25, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: We can only compare ourselves to what we know The first rocket went into space the year before we last won the fa cup They'd stopped filming star trek tv shows before man landed on the moon Something I always find incredible is that Stegosaurus was extinct ~20 MILLION YEARS before T-Rex existed. T-Rex existed closer in history to me and you than it did to Stegosaurus. Numbers like that are mind-blowing. Edited February 25, 2020 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 26, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Cheese said: Something I always find incredible is that Stegosaurus was extinct ~20 MILLION YEARS before T-Rex existed. T-Rex existed closer in history to me and you than it did to Stegosaurus. Numbers like that are mind-blowing. Aye Slightly shorter numbers But Oxford university was built something like 400 years before the Aztec temples in Mexico You just sort of assume that they were around long before we learnt to read and stuff Edited February 26, 2020 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 26, 2020 Members Share Posted February 26, 2020 Seems incomprehensible to me that there is not some other intelligent life in the vastness of the cosmos. Distances so vast that contact/sightings are unlikely to ever happen before Earth is finally sucked into the black hole our sun will become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton in bedford Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 There has to be life out there somewhere. Whether it has the intelligence and technology to visit our solar system is a different matter, and if it did I’m sure they wouldn’t just fly around just to look or have flashing lights on their spaceship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I think the best thing to do is keep our head down. One commonality I can see from evolved life is it's generally ruthless and nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted February 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2020 No one would have believed in the last years of the 19th century that human affairs where being watched by intelligences that inhabited the timeless worlds of space. No one could have dreamed we were being scrutinized as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets and yet, across the gulf of space minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded this Earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely they drew their plans against us....... it will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, superjohnmcginlay said: No one would have believed in the last years of the 19th century that human affairs where being watched by intelligences that inhabited the timeless worlds of space. No one could have dreamed we were being scrutinized as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets and yet, across the gulf of space minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded this Earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely they drew their plans against us....... it will happen. ULLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboybell Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, superjohnmcginlay said: No one would have believed in the last years of the 19th century that human affairs where being watched by intelligences that inhabited the timeless worlds of space. No one could have dreamed we were being scrutinized as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets and yet, across the gulf of space minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded this Earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely they drew their plans against us....... it will happen. Went to watch the live stage show. It was Liam Neson who was narrating not Burton but was ace all the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2020 14 hours ago, Underpants said: If there's a billion zillion galaxy's out there then surely the odds are that there is intelligent life being on at least one planet. And if the rule of thumb on intelligent life is us then it's no wonder they haven't visited us. Since the dawn of time we haven't travelled farther than the nearest thing to us, the moon. And even that is up for debate. You're forgetting the ELE that saw off the dinosaurs. If a large chunk of "Mexico" hadn't been taken out, who knows how reptiles would have evolved. May have been in space long before we even came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Theboybell said: Went to watch the live stage show. It was Liam Neson who was narrating not Burton but was ace all the same! Strange coincidence but got a notification from a ticket site this morning that they are back out doing it in 2021, always wondered if it was worth shelling out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted February 26, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2020 Watched a programme on one of the discovery type channels, detailing the Fermi paradox , which is proposes that life on other planets should have visited us by now and reasons why it wouldn’t have favourite theory is that any advanced civilisation more likely uses the advancements of technology to develop ways to destroy itself , both weapons and using up of natural resources , before becoming advanced enough to travel the distances. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboybell Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 26/02/2020 at 13:22, ErnestTurnip said: Strange coincidence but got a notification from a ticket site this morning that they are back out doing it in 2021, always wondered if it was worth shelling out for. I would if you like the musical. Its a great spectacle. All bells and whistles. Forever Autum is ace. Wont spoil it but its good. Get it booked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 26/02/2020 at 23:34, fatolive said: Watched a programme on one of the discovery type channels, detailing the Fermi paradox , which is proposes that life on other planets should have visited us by now and reasons why it wouldn’t have favourite theory is that any advanced civilisation more likely uses the advancements of technology to develop ways to destroy itself , both weapons and using up of natural resources , before becoming advanced enough to travel the distances. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox The Drake equation Vs the Fermi Paradox. John Micheal Godier does some good interviews on YouTube about it. Could suggest that we're utterly alone in the universe - or at least in our galaxy. Certainly suggests that if there is intelligent life - it's much rarer than perhaps we'd assumed it might be 10-20 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted March 2, 2020 Macky Ds in space? https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-claim-to-have-found-the-first-known-extraterrestrial-protein-in-a-meteorite/amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 Got the Rendlesham book as a birthday present yesterday. Looking forward to reading “the whole truth”! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 16, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted March 16, 2020 One of the comments; please take our leader.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Viruses like Corona are one of the solutions to the Fermi Paradox btw. Sobering thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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