gonzo Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Cheese said: Blokes who've spent their entire lives living in peace, calling the younger generations 'wokes' and 'wimps' who should be forced into National Service - all the while knowing they're too old to ever be called up themselves. Sums the state of this country up to a fucking tee. Has anyone actually said this? Genuine question as I must have missed it. My point wasnt about young people, it was about our broken society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BobyBrno said: The money and assets will be spread across Europe. Switzerland will be freezing bank accounts mainly. Much easier than seizing a football club or a mansion for instance These are the practicalities. No one knows what is going on behind the scenes but some are grabbing at anything to make political points. Again. 100% Folk should spend some time watching parliamentary discussions to get a handle on things. The number of lawyers involved in the "sanction section" has had to be doubled or trebled. They are limited by resources. Additionally, in part because of the amount of money here, those law firms and accountants involved in protecting the oligarchs receive huge funding- to the extent that they're even tying up the nca restricting the amount of work they can successfully do. An mp gave information that was provided to him by a whistle blower from a legal firm. Apparently, these firms must carry out certain checks on individuals before they can represent them. They don't, and indeed certain names have a note of "do not investigate" against them- they want the money. Authorities have to get any required legislation in, and then make sure cases are absolutely water tight, or they will be tied up in the courts for ages. Additionally, several mps were discussing the slowness of these sanctions, and it was even talked about the difficulties of English law potentially hampering efforts. Unless you're directly involved in this, then it's difficult to understand how that might be. Of course none of this matters. It's just our lot not doing anything. If they are later shown to be have been deliberately procrastinating, then hang the cunts. But point scoring on the back of this is truly sad and desperate. We were the first to send anti tank weapons in, even before conflict started, but that doesn't count. It's all about spending time delving into social media to find a crumb to feed the habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Farrelli said: Time is of the essence though. We are giving them chance to move assets. You and I don’t know that. We don’t know what is going on. I’ll be happy if someone can show otherwise. For what it’s worth, I thought Starmer was right when he highlighted the individuals yesterday in PMQ’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 These guy look fed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, gonzo said: Has anyone actually said this? Genuine question as I must have missed it. My point wasnt about young people, it was about our broken society. Well for a start, @little whitt thinks your sons should do National Service... and @bolty58 thinks we need a World War to shut up the gays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Time is of the essence though. We are giving them chance to move assets. Time in indeed short. Make a wrong legal move though and the case is gone. Of course they will try to move assets, but remember there aren't many places to put them. Yachts to Europe? Grabbed by whichever country. Russian owned, or registered boats are banned from UK ports too, so shipping can't use the country. Football clubs- not quick to sell really for various reasons. Property- again not so easy, especially as no one is going to pay the high prices they may want to get their investments back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Has anyone actually said this? Genuine question as I must have missed it. My point wasnt about young people, it was about our broken society. Travel further - and you might revise your opinion of brokund Britain. We have a few shithouses, dossers, slags and nobheads - it's hardly the fucking Congo or Colombia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: We have a few shithouses, dossers, slags and nobheads We had none in the 70s and 80s though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Another thread worth reading. It seems clear they weren't expecting the sanctions to be as wide-ranging as they are: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Nowack said: We had none in the 70s and 80s though. I was alive in the 80's and it was full of those types, my mam had to dodge gluesniffers sniffing glue on our way to school, she was mooned once by gluesniffers, they had a tiger skin seat scooter, I think it was a browneye where the cheeks are splayed exposing the anus. Which is frowned upon by the mooning community at large. We used to get mugged at stanley point in Bolton and Manchester as kids, we learned 'the dance' and kept a pittance in shrapnel in our pockets to hand over and any real money in our socks. It was shite, poverty abound. Edited March 3, 2022 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Travel further - and you might revise your opinion of brokund Britain. We have a few shithouses, dossers, slags and nobheads - it's hardly the fucking Congo or Colombia. Ive travelled enough thanks. Enough to see theres a soft underbelly in our society and its every man for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: Ive travelled enough thanks. Enough to see theres a soft underbelly in our society and its every man for himself. Bolty expressed similar sentiments once to Kent, until he pointed out he'd spent all night following the Arena attack picking shrapnel out of folk. Just stop knocking about on Lord Street. A lot of the under thirties here are fucking nutters, they're too busy selling drugs to gesture to Stokies from crazy corner then run off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Cheese said: Blokes who've spent their entire lives living in peace, calling the younger generations 'wokes' and 'wimps' who should be forced into National Service - all the while knowing they're too old to ever be called up themselves. Sums the state of this country up to a fucking tee. I was in the Air Cadets Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gonzo Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Bolty expressed similar sentiments once to Kent, until he pointed out he'd spent all night following the Arena attack picking shrapnel out of folk. Just stop knocking about on Lord Street. A lot of the under thirties here are fucking nutters, they're too busy selling drugs to gesture to Stokies from crazy corner then run off. Again what an utterly condescending, single minded and downright insulting pile of bullshit. Utter utter fucking bullshit. You genuinely have no fucking idea or grasp on reality. Everything must be rosey in good old Bromley eh? Stick to playing chess and posting nonsense in here in your little life bubble. Absolute fucking maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 3, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: 100% Folk should spend some time watching parliamentary discussions to get a handle on things. The number of lawyers involved in the "sanction section" has had to be doubled or trebled. They are limited by resources. Additionally, in part because of the amount of money here, those law firms and accountants involved in protecting the oligarchs receive huge funding- to the extent that they're even tying up the nca restricting the amount of work they can successfully do. An mp gave information that was provided to him by a whistle blower from a legal firm. Apparently, these firms must carry out certain checks on individuals before they can represent them. They don't, and indeed certain names have a note of "do not investigate" against them- they want the money. Authorities have to get any required legislation in, and then make sure cases are absolutely water tight, or they will be tied up in the courts for ages. Additionally, several mps were discussing the slowness of these sanctions, and it was even talked about the difficulties of English law potentially hampering efforts. Unless you're directly involved in this, then it's difficult to understand how that might be. Of course none of this matters. It's just our lot not doing anything. If they are later shown to be have been deliberately procrastinating, then hang the cunts. But point scoring on the back of this is truly sad and desperate. We were the first to send anti tank weapons in, even before conflict started, but that doesn't count. It's all about spending time delving into social media to find a crumb to feed the habit. Listening to the radio this afternoon and they had a lawyer on who said there was little difference between UK and EU law with regards to sanctions. She explained that there is also very little redress available if a government imposes sanctions on a person, company, country, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Feel like it's a bit of a pointless topic of discussion whether our society has too many dossers and/or wimps to be able to handle a war. Firstly, yes there's more luxuries and privileges in the modern world for more people than there was in the early-mid 20th century. Does that mean that as a nation we'd be worse at defending the country in a crisis? It's all hypothetical. What's to say these pronoun-sensitive, work-shy, shower once-a-week types haven't put 10,000 hours into call of duty and are primed to be super soldiers? 😂 Secondly, the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction with nukes surely means that any sort of war would escalate so fast that it would skip the step of conscripting the general public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted March 3, 2022 Author Members Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It seems clear they weren't expecting the sanctions to be as wide-ranging as they are: This mentalist needs a bullet between the eyes as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mantra said: Feel like it's a bit of a pointless topic of discussion whether our society has too many dossers and/or wimps to be able to handle a war. Firstly, yes there's more luxuries and privileges in the modern world for more people than there was in the early-mid 20th century. Does that mean that as a nation we'd be worse at defending the country in a crisis? It's all hypothetical. What's to say these pronoun-sensitive, work-shy, shower once-a-week types haven't put 10,000 hours into call of duty and are primed to be super soldiers? 😂 Secondly, the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction with nukes surely means that any sort of war would escalate so fast that it would skip the step of conscripting the general public. Exactly mate It's a nonsense of an argument. Funnily enough those complaining that one side is a bunch of soft bastards who are too easily offended, get just as offended when someone asks to be referred to by a certain pronoun or when a boat crosses the channel. Interesting that those moaning about Newsround the other day, which was being shown to kids in school about the Ukraine crisis (fair point to reduce exposure bdw), are now claiming that the youth are too soft. Plenty of 'lefty snowflakes' that left the country to support the Kurdish resistance in Syria. It is all completely hypothetical. Young people in this country have to go through a lot and are far more resilient than folk give them credit for. Yes there's a lot of privilege, but who's to say they couldn't step up when needed to? Edited March 3, 2022 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Enough to see theres a soft underbelly in our society and its every man for himself. I wouldn't disagree with the second half of that. It's drilled in from a young age. Focus on yourself - get the best grades. Anything that's for the benefit of the community is always an extra curricula activity done in school. War is fucking horrible. Nobody can be ready for that and I don't want to live in a nation that prepares young people for it. Those that fought in the trenches weren't battle ready or toughened up. Those that came out were traumatised for life. We don't need harder men. We need global disarmament and people who look out for their family and their community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: I wouldn't disagree with the second half of that. It's drilled in from a young age. Focus on yourself - get the best grades. Anything that's for the benefit of the community is always an extra curricula activity done in school. War is fucking horrible. Nobody can be ready for that and I don't want to live in a nation that prepares young people for it. Those that fought in the trenches weren't battle ready or toughened up. Those that came out were traumatised for life. We don't need harder men. We need global disarmament and people who look out for their family and their community. Good post mate 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Youri McAnespie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Again what an utterly condescending, single minded and downright insulting pile of bullshit. Utter utter fucking bullshit. You genuinely have no fucking idea or grasp on reality. Everything must be rosey in good old Bromley eh? Stick to playing chess and posting nonsense in here in your little life bubble. Absolute fucking maniac. Go to a swingers' party, get a spray tan, drink twelve pints of Carling then walk into the sea. What the fuck does Bromley have to do with anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Rudy said: This mentalist needs a bullet between the eyes as well His experiments with dogs, bells and grub were groundbreaking - well, they were pretty shite actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Go to a swingers' party, get a spray tan, drink twelve pints of Carling then walk into the sea. What the fuck does Bromley have to do with anything? About as much as the utter bullshit you responded to me with. You've lost the fuckin plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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