Covid-19

[Rudy]

2 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

It's a combination of an underlying distrust of government/large corporations and a desperate need to be right 

But I still don’t get why you want to push it so hard. 
I believe in the pandemic, vaccine and science. 
but I don’t push it onto people, I don’t care. If you don’t want to get it fine. I don’t give a fuck, thin the heard make it easier to get to work

[jmjhb]

Self-righteousness, and it's more about convincing themselves they are right rather than anyone else. It's why you see the same few memes and misinformation being spread on a daily basis

Edited September 2, 2021 by jmjhb

[stevieb]

12 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

A test shows you didnt have it (probably, are they 100% accurate?) when the test was taken, not that you don't have it now.

What would be your desired expiry time of a test ? 3 days ? 2 hours ?

If I have a negative test on Sunday, how long would that negative result allow me freedom ?

The perfect situation would be a 10 second test, with immediate results, thats 100% accurate. This could be done upon entry to wherever.

Until we have that, we have imperfect options.

 

 

Agree the tests are shit too. PCR authorization getting pulled by the yanks at the end of the year because it's toss. 

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

So you've got shit tests or vaccine status that doesn't prevent transmission being used to curb access to every day life. 

Makes zero sense. 

I'm anti covid passport at a domestic level.

Couldn't give a fuck how it'd treated whether you have had the vaccine or not etc. Certainly not putting signs up and heckling passers by on the beehive roundabout. Live and let live. 

But don't bring in a vaccine passport based on flawed science. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 hours ago, stevieb said:

But we're about to start domestic vaccine passports based on vaccine status for vaccines that aren't as effective at reducing transmission as hoped. 

With proof of a negative test result no longer acceptable. 

It defies logic. You can't argue with that. 

I think the issue is having folk doing the tests at a suitable time close to entry. And their accuracy, especially with lfd. Ziggy has covered this.

Compare that to vaccine status which is a definite (either had them or not). OK, transmission is possible, but chances of serious illness happening are much lower, so it's then becomes a balance between having something akin to normal life but having the risk of being rough, as opposed to a much higher risk of catching it and croaking.

Pros and cons, but for me, it's is logical to use the vaccinated route, unless a faster, accurate and cheaper testing method is developed for use 'at the door'.

[Spider]

30 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Driving home, two of the roughest ‘women’ you’ll ever see, stood on the corner of the traffic lights smoking with these signs 

“Don’t Jab our kids”

”Covid is a lie”

“99.9% of people who get Covid with the vaccine survive”

Now if you believe this then fine whatever, but why feel the need to push it so hard on to other people. I don’t get it

They should have just written “will let you bum me for a fiver or a packet of fags”

Unless they had and you’re getting your alibi in order

[Zico]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think the issue is having folk doing the tests at a suitable time close to entry. And their accuracy, especially with lfd. Ziggy has covered this.

Compare that to vaccine status which is a definite (either had them or not). OK, transmission is possible, but chances of serious illness happening are much lower, so it's then becomes a balance between having something akin to normal life but having the risk of being rough, as opposed to a much higher risk of catching it and croaking.

Pros and cons, but for me, it's is logical to use the vaccinated route, unless a faster, accurate and cheaper testing method is developed for use 'at the door'.

You can easily fake a test result. You don't even have to take the test.  That's where that approach fails.  

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

You can easily fake a test result. You don't even have to take the test.  That's where that approach fails.  

Aye, that too. Always the unscrupulous. 

No doubt someone will be managing to fake a page from the nhs app that shows your vaccine status, but that takes more effort I'd guess.

[mickbrown]

58 minutes ago, Rudy said:

When he has that Brendan Schaub on I skip it, that fucker is about as funny as herpes

Tarantino on it the other week was brilliant and I’m halfway through Dave Chappelle which is great.

Inusually enjoy the ones of people I don’t know, treasure hunters, ex fbi, former spies, any expert on space 

 

One of the best was some bloke who spoke about funghi for 3 hours.

[Dimron]

10 hours ago, burnden said:

A few days into having covid now , it has properly knocked me on my arse .

Daughter got it as well same for her

Both of us double jabbed  2 x AZ

Keep positive mate... I was the same, but I have recovered.

It is a weird virus, do you feel like its trying to get deep into your body all the time?

[Not in Crawley]

So the mayor is telling us in London to get back to work in offices, full campaign - new branding on the tube, stuff like 'after work drinks' in the roundel. 

Sorry but fuck the butty and coffee shops. I've had enough of spending too much on lunch and commuting. 

[stevieb]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

So the mayor is telling us in London to get back to work in offices, full campaign - new branding on the tube, stuff like 'after work drinks' in the roundel. 

Sorry but fuck the butty and coffee shops. I've had enough of spending too much on lunch and commuting. 

Rishi sunak doesn't like this. 

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Rishi sunak doesn't like this. 

If I had my way every overpriced coffee and sandwich shop that has leached off workers being forced to be in offices for no reason for the full 5 days a week would go to the wall. Getting up at 6, getting home at 8.30...

More local business rather than mon-fri Prets, Leon's (4 quid for a pot of beans!?!) Overpriced shitty too bitter coffees with stupid names. Had my fill of them all. I'll shed no tears whatsoever.

[stevieb]

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

If I had my way every overpriced coffee and sandwich shop that has leached off workers being forced to be in offices for no reason for the full 5 days a week would go to the wall. Getting up at 6, getting home at 8.30...

More local business rather than mon-fri Prets, Leon's (4 quid for a pot of beans!?!) Overpriced shitty too bitter coffees with stupid names. Had my fill of them all. I'll shed no tears whatsoever.

Same. 

Local guy in Horwich has set up a coffee shop. He's getting my money a couple of days a week. 

Not missing spunking £20 getting to Manchester on Northern rail and eating breakfast and dinner and coming home. 

Unfortunately the Mrs is no longer working Fridays and is spending the savings and more on middlebrook! 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, stevieb said:

Same. 

Local guy in Horwich has set up a coffee shop. He's getting my money a couple of days a week. 

Not missing spunking £20 getting to Manchester on Northern rail and eating breakfast and dinner and coming home. 

Unfortunately the Mrs is no longer working Fridays and is spending the savings and more on middlebrook! 

Im all for city centre cafes/lunchtime butty shops serving people who live in the centre, but the ones who are just focused on commuters, price accordingly or shut at weekends. Tough tits. 

[stevieb]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Im all for city centre cafes/lunchtime butty shops serving people who live in the centre, but the ones who are just focused on commuters, price accordingly or shut at weekends. Tough tits. 

Short stocks for Greggs / pret / Leon / Costa. 

They're probably all nonces anyway am I right @Youri McAnespie

[Not in Crawley]

One of the things that cheered me up through all this was the ceo of Pret moaning and complaing about people not in offices.

Another upside is inner city landlords charging whatever they want for office space finally getting fucked over. About time.

[Winchester White]

9 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

One of the things that cheered me up through all this was the ceo of Pret moaning and complaing about people not in offices.

Another upside is inner city landlords charging whatever they want for office space finally getting fucked over. About time.

They are going to see their arse soon. Sure many places will get back up to good occupancy but not like before, maybe 80% but loads are looking at their rental costs and thinking fuck that, we can make do with half that.

[stevieb]

9 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

They are going to see their arse soon. Sure many places will get back up to good occupancy but not like before, maybe 80% but loads are looking at their rental costs and thinking fuck that, we can make do with half that.

We're going back 3 days in out of 5 and at front line staff we're seeing massive attrition because people want to wfh. 

They can get similar jobs on similar pay elsewhere that have better wfh / flexibility. 

 

[Winchester White]

6 minutes ago, stevieb said:

We're going back 3 days in out of 5 and at front line staff we're seeing massive attrition because people want to wfh. 

They can get similar jobs on similar pay elsewhere that have better wfh / flexibility. 

 

Massive infrastructure projects taking place right now of backhaul transmission that was already in place for 4G/5G/cable but has been given a huge wake up call with diverse working we all expect now.

[Winchester White]

Just now, Winchester White said:

Massive infrastructure projects taking place right now of backhaul transmission that was already in planning for 4G/5G/cable growth but has been given a huge wake up call with diverse working we all expect now.

 

[Cheese]

5 hours ago, Rudy said:

Driving home, two of the roughest ‘women’ you’ll ever see, stood on the corner of the traffic lights smoking with these signs 

“Don’t Jab our kids”

”Covid is a lie”

“99.9% of people who get Covid with the vaccine survive”

Now if you believe this then fine whatever, but why feel the need to push it so hard on to other people. I don’t get it

Chorley by any chance? Saw a group of scutters near the train station last week waving signs like that. Fucking oddballs. 

[Youri McAnespie]

5 hours ago, stevieb said:

Short stocks for Greggs / pret / Leon / Costa. 

They're probably all nonces anyway am I right @Youri McAnespie

Greggs - Paederast, Pret - Tranny Whoremasters, Leon - animal abusers, Costa - Cocaine Traffickers.

[Rudy]

6 hours ago, Cheese said:

Chorley by any chance? Saw a group of scutters near the train station last week waving signs like that. Fucking oddballs. 

No near the junction at St. Peter’s way near B&Q

[Not in Crawley]

9 hours ago, Winchester White said:

They are going to see their arse soon. Sure many places will get back up to good occupancy but not like before, maybe 80% but loads are looking at their rental costs and thinking fuck that, we can make do with half that.

My old company has stupid rents (kings Cross granary square) it meant our agency had to double the work just for the office space. They are forcing folk back, one of my mates who is still there says it's like a primary school as only the youngsters want to do it and are left (he's only 43 himself) It's busier in London but mon/fris very quiet still.

My new place is oddly still in granary Square but being an old charity sold their old offices for a few million and bought this place outright, so offer lower rents to art business to share some of the space.

We're doing hybrid, set amount of days over 2 weeks - basically three days a week or 5 one, 2 the next, but can be flexible to avoid rush hours etc No one really wants to rush back.

I'm there until Jan and then finding a new thing, god knows what that'll be but home working is a must.

[burnden]

On 02/09/2021 at 20:57, Dimron said:

Keep positive mate... I was the same, but I have recovered.

It is a weird virus, do you feel like its trying to get deep into your body all the time?

it feels like it is moving from place to place....lungs/kidneys feel worst....sleeping a lot.