Covid-19

[mickbrown]

8 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

But you do follow him around?

Reminds me of something I saw on a kids programme I watched with my nipper. Think it might have been iCarly.

Kid - I follow you.

Carly - On social media? 

Kid - no - on my bike.

 

[stevieb]

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

How long do those post infection antibodies last?

A lot of information in the early stages of vaccines development, about how vaccines would give a longer lasting protection than that acquired by being infected.

Additionally, even youngsters who weren't overly ill, are still finding post infection issues.

Just have it.

I don't want to labour the point but... 

The vaccines efficacy don't seem to be lasting that long either. 

And they are still under emergency use authorization until 2023. 

You can see why people are a bit sceptical when it comes to kids who don't seem to be at much risk from the virus and many have antibodies already. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

16 minutes ago, stevieb said:

I don't want to labour the point but... 

The vaccines efficacy don't seem to be lasting that long either. 

And they are still under emergency use authorization until 2023. 

You can see why people are a bit sceptical when it comes to kids who don't seem to be at much risk from the virus and many have antibodies already. 

Perhaps not, but is it still longer than infection acquired resistance?

Remember: to get the infection resistance you also have a much higher risk of a more serious illness or ongoing problems.

I have a s-i-l and niece who have both had it. The illness wasn't too bad for either, but both have had long covid symptoms, the young un suffering weakness and tiredness. Not what she needed in gcse year.

The potential impact on study is huge. We've already seen it just because of isolations let alone ongoing suffering.

This is where the jcvi reached the limits of their scope and admitted that they weren't in a position to make a determination on education impacts. Hence whitty et al doing just that.

[stevieb]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

This is where the jcvi reached the limits of their scope and admitted that they weren't in a position to make a determination on education impacts. Hence whitty et al doing just that.

Again. Alarm bells ringing at that decision. 

Trust the science out of the window... 🤣 

[Spider]

Numbers are dropping every day in terms of cases and deaths.

And that’s with schools back, no restrictions.

I suspect the main breeding farm for this virus - schools - has reached near herd immunity and the virus is struggling with vaccinated folk.

I sure hope so.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Wednesday's figures were higher than Tuesday's. 

Numbers have been around the 30000 mark for a while.

Winter to come.

Fingers crossed time.

[Spider]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Wednesday's figures were higher than Tuesday's. 

Numbers have been around the 30000 mark for a while.

Winter to come.

Fingers crossed time.

Thing I saw said they were well down on last week. I’d have thought they’d be going the other way now to be honest, with schools being back.

My lad says no Covid cases at his school and a few have already been jabbed.

 

[Casino]

2 hours ago, stevieb said:

And they are still under emergency use authorization until 2023. 

 

I thought you lived in horwich, not cranksville

If thats an issue for you, could you tell us why?

[SatanGreavsie]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Wednesday's figures were higher than Tuesday's. 

Numbers have been around the 30000 mark for a while.

Winter to come.

Fingers crossed time.

Last weekly total for hospital admissions ca 7000; deaths ca 1000 

[stevieb]

8 hours ago, Casino said:

I thought you lived in horwich, not cranksville

If thats an issue for you, could you tell us why?

Because I don't do clinical trials. I didn't do them when people got paid to do them when I was at uni and I don't want to do them now. 🤣

Emergency use authorisation means they still are awaiting phase 3 trial data. Which is due in 2023.

Again my issue isn't the vaccine more the vaccine passport... Not shouting down anyone having the vaccine. It's should be personal choice but I don't think we should be being forced to have it for a 'freedom pass' when it still hasn't got full market authority. 

Just my two penneth

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4759

 

https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/research-and-development/trials-in-people/clinical-trial-phases/

But keep calling me a crank. I'll be the one laughing when Bill Gates zombie apocalypse is upon us. 😉

 

[ErnestTurnip]

Think the conspiracy lads have dropped the Bill Gates idea now after realising the vaccine only needs an update every 6 months rather than every Wednesday morning.

[waffer cup 07]

UK 26,000 cases yesterday. Best vaccination rollout in the world. Spain 3,000 cases yesterday. Other European countries well below UK figures. Well done Boris. Well done with freedom day. We will see how free you are in December.

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

UK 26,000 cases yesterday. Best vaccination rollout in the world. Spain 3,000 cases yesterday. Other European countries well below UK figures. Well done Boris. Well done with freedom day. We will see how free you are in December.

It’s on a downward trend.

The vaccination programme has rendered it no more deadly than flu in terms of numbers of folk it kills.

I know it’s still shit when people die of it, but we’re now really at the stage where the risk of any lockdowns are far more costly then hiding from Covid anymore.

Any damage the government did was in the early days but that’s old ground. The awarding of dodgy contracts was despicable, of course.

We need to crack on.

[royal white]

1 hour ago, stevieb said:

Because I don't do clinical trials. I didn't do them when people got paid to do them when I was at uni and I don't want to do them now. 🤣

Emergency use authorisation means they still are awaiting phase 3 trial data. Which is due in 2023.

Again my issue isn't the vaccine more the vaccine passport... Not shouting down anyone having the vaccine. It's should be personal choice but I don't think we should be being forced to have it for a 'freedom pass' when it still hasn't got full market authority. 

Just my two penneth

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4759

 

https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/research-and-development/trials-in-people/clinical-trial-phases/

But keep calling me a crank. I'll be the one laughing when Bill Gates zombie apocalypse is upon us. 😉

 

Haven’t phase 3 trials been completed? This (the 2023 date) is just the monitoring phase, a standard procedure. 

[royal white]

 

[stevieb]

22 minutes ago, royal white said:

Haven’t phase 3 trials been completed? This (the 2023 date) is just the monitoring phase, a standard procedure. 

So they've rolled it out en masse without seeing the outcome of the monitoring phase. 

Got it. 

🎣

[Youri McAnespie]

1 hour ago, stevieb said:

Because I don't do clinical trials. I didn't do them when people got paid to do them when I was at uni and I don't want to do them now. 🤣

Emergency use authorisation means they still are awaiting phase 3 trial data. Which is due in 2023.

Again my issue isn't the vaccine more the vaccine passport... Not shouting down anyone having the vaccine. It's should be personal choice but I don't think we should be being forced to have it for a 'freedom pass' when it still hasn't got full market authority. 

Just my two penneth

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4759

 

https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/research-and-development/trials-in-people/clinical-trial-phases/

But keep calling me a crank. I'll be the one laughing when Bill Gates zombie apocalypse is upon us. 😉

 

New Non-Vaccine Covid-19 Prophylactic - Basic Elements Discovered.

[stevieb]

3 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

New Non-Vaccine Covid-19 Prophylactic - Basic Elements Discovered.

Already stocked up! 🤣 

To go with my horse dewormer

[Youri McAnespie]

I assume everyone knows the 'flu vaccines change year upon year...

And that most folk working in The NHS or with the older and/or vulnerable voluntarily get jabbed.

Mainly because they listen to qualified professionals and not Lee and Karen offov Facebook, who've took a comment or stat from the BMJ and presented it in isolation and out of context...

Edited September 17, 2021 by Youri McAnespie

[royal white]

13 minutes ago, stevieb said:

So they've rolled it out en masse without seeing the outcome of the monitoring phase. 

Got it. 

🎣

So they were allowed to roll in out en masse without knowing the results of trials 🙄

 

Got it 

[Big E]

13 hours ago, stevieb said:

I don't want to labour the point but... 

The vaccines efficacy don't seem to be lasting that long either. 

And they are still under emergency use authorization until 2023. 

You can see why people are a bit sceptical when it comes to kids who don't seem to be at much risk from the virus and many have antibodies already. 

I agree that kids probably don't need it. 

mad how many people only trust those tested drugs from the south american jungle though.....

[stevieb]

2 minutes ago, Big E said:

I agree that kids probably don't need it. 

mad how many people only trust those tested drugs from the south american jungle though.....

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

It’s on a downward trend.

The vaccination programme has rendered it no more deadly than flu in terms of numbers of folk it kills.

Flu didn't kill anyone last year, apparently 😉

[bolton_blondie]

20 minutes ago, Traf said:

Flu didn't kill anyone last year, apparently 😉

Neither did cancer or dying of old age. Everyone had covid 19 written on their death certificate. Even if they was ran over by a double decker. 

[Big E]

1 hour ago, stevieb said:

It’s not all about you princess