Meanwhile In England

[1969]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

True or not, it's all over Twitter... 

Yes that's what I saw and a few others as well 

[Sweep]

9 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

On a watch list ffs 

We always hear this. Do we have any idea how many people are allegedly on a "watch list" - there must be loads, and how much do they actually watch them I wonder

[Sweep]

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

Police just said he’s from Cardiff 🤷🏻

Apparently that's a cover up story, to prevent the real truth coming out 😁

[Guest]

Just now, Sweep said:

Apparently that's a cover up story, to prevent the real truth coming out 😁

It’s probably time for people to exit the far right social media echo chambers because no good can come from them. 

[L/H White]

what's making me sick is that the other 8 are critical. Hopefully they all pull through 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

Will post it again for reference 

 

 

Like I said, different beliefs and attitudes. 

His view is strong, passionate and angry. Maybe over the top at times.

Do you think those beliefs are borne out of genuine hatred for a particular religious group, or because of the repeated actions of some of them?

Given the obvious: the stories we see on a regular basis, and the fact that he doesn't criticise other religious groups or different races then, I'm going for the latter- a view shared by many people. Unfortunately, the many people uncomfortable about speaking out.

[radcliffe white]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We always hear this. Do we have any idea how many people are allegedly on a "watch list" - there must be loads, and how much do they actually watch them I wonder

It’s sad as I’m guessing there’s no clear evidence to bring them in so basically they can’t do naff all but monitor them but that’s impossible

[athywhite1958]

What's the betting that any migrant hostels/centres around Merseyside are torched tonight

[royal white]

Just now, athywhite1958 said:

What's the betting that any migrant hostels/centres around Merseyside are torched tonight

They’re some of the worst for wanting  open border policies. 

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Like I said, different beliefs and attitudes. 

His view is strong, passionate and angry. Maybe over the top at times.

Do you think those beliefs are borne out of genuine hatred for a particular religious group, or because of the repeated actions of some of them?

Given the obvious: the stories we see on a regular basis, and the fact that he doesn't criticise other religious groups or different races then, I'm going for the latter- a view shared by many people. Unfortunately, the many people uncomfortable about speaking out.

I don't think anything he says there is hate speech.

 

[DazBob]

9 minutes ago, royal white said:

Would Keir Starmer saying Bangladesh folk should be returned to Bangladesh  be classed as hate Speech? 

If he said "the fuckers are continually murdering members of the British public", then yes.

[Zico]

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

Would Keir Starmer saying Bangladesh folk should be returned to Bangladesh  be classed as hate Speech? 

If he added because they are here to rape and are all barbarians, yes

[gonzo]

5 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

It’s probably time for people to exit the far right social media echo chambers because no good can come from them. 

My YouTube is littered with it as we've been talking about it on here for 3 weeks solid

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, DazBob said:

If he said "the fuckers are continually murdering members of the British public", then yes.

If that was actually true, then he wouldn't be committing hate speech would he?

As an aside, TR has many convictions, for all sorts of offences. Not necessarily a good bloke at all. Never been convicted of hate speech though.

[royal white]

Just now, DazBob said:

If he said "the fuckers are continually murdering members of the British public", then yes.

He didn’t, the first thing TR said in the video (which is apparently highlighting his hate speech) was to temporarily halt  Muslim immigration. 
 

So what’s the difference between that and what the Prime minister said, 

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Course the card applies if say smith

you seem rather pumped up? 

Defence mechanism. 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

If he added because they are here to rape and are all barbarians, yes

Whats wrong with the first thing he said which was a temporary ban on Muslim immigration. Is that worse then saying send Bangladeshis back?

[little whitt]

11 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We always hear this. Do we have any idea how many people are allegedly on a "watch list" - there must be loads, and how much do they actually watch them I wonder

46000 ive just read

[DazBob]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If that was actually true, then he wouldn't be committing hate speech would he?

Are all of the fuckers doing it?

[DazBob]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

He didn’t, the first thing TR said in the video (which is apparently highlighting his hate speech) was to temporarily halt  Muslim immigration. 
 

So what’s the difference between that and what the Prime minister said, 

I've not watched the video, I'm quoting from his tweet that you posted a screenshot of.

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

Are all of the fuckers doing it?

Did he say all?

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, little whitt said:

46000 ive just read

Probably with about 100 people trying to monitor them

[royal white]

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

I've not watched the video, I'm quoting from his tweet that you posted a screenshot of.

Well I was asking regarding the video 

[Sweep]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Whats wrong with the first thing he said which was a temporary ban on Muslim immigration. Is that worse then saying send Bangladeshis back?

What if the brown people said they weren't Muslim, and that they'd converted to Christianity, would we have to let them in then? 

I'm not asking you (or anybody in particular), just pointing out a bit of a flaw in that ridiculous "option" 

Edited July 29, 2024 by Sweep

[only1swanny]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

Probably with about 100 people trying to monitor them

The un-official line is that it's easier to monitor them if they are out and about, when they are brought in it escalates the issue and plays into the hands of the ones radicalising them. 

 

Interestingly, one of the main hallmarks to watch out for under the "Prevent" strategy is to travel to a place to demonstrate, so that Lawyer from last week has a lot to answer for..