DomRepWanderer Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: If you know the person it's banter, if you don't it's called being a dick. We all know he's the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 26 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: We all know he's the former. Think he's on about the gobby teenager abusing the female referee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 25 Site Supporter Share Posted April 25 Clearly not right, but when lower level refs are getting twatted etc, a kitchen comment barely sends a ripple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 48 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Clearly not right, but when lower level refs are getting twatted etc, a kitchen comment barely sends a ripple. Both are unacceptable obviously physical assault is the worst of the 2. But just like a bad tackle and out right punching an opponent both are punishable at different levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Clearly not right, but when lower level refs are getting twatted etc, a kitchen comment barely sends a ripple. It’s bit like the Broken Windows theory in criminology, though. if the kitchen comment barely sends a ripple, what about a slightly more serious comment or offence; and so it perpetuates. I’m hardly a “snowflake” type, but respect for referees at all levels but, especially, at grassroots level, should and must be enforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted April 25 Members Share Posted April 25 17 minutes ago, Rival Son said: It’s bit like the Broken Windows theory in criminology, though. if the kitchen comment barely sends a ripple, what about a slightly more serious comment or offence; and so it perpetuates. I’m hardly a “snowflake” type, but respect for referees at all levels but, especially, at grassroots level, should and must be enforced. Aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 44 minutes ago, Rival Son said: It’s bit like the Broken Windows theory in criminology, though. if the kitchen comment barely sends a ripple, what about a slightly more serious comment or offence; and so it perpetuates. I’m hardly a “snowflake” type, but respect for referees at all levels but, especially, at grassroots level, should and must be enforced. Referees get less respect in football than any other sport. Football generates more money than most other sports. No coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 need some context: how long is left in the season? bans are normally for games, not time periods. this can transcend levels of football; a 3 game ban could be over a weekend, or could be a month. a player should be punished for the offence committed, rather than the victim. assuming the red card is for dissent, it should be classed as using offensive, insulting or abusive language: so yeah, if only 3 games left, you're out: however, apparently he was only going to be booked? i'm assuming that it has already gone before an appeal? either way @Cheese thinking an 18 year old having to miss a prolonged period of football for something like this is 'good' is absolute bollocks: it will create resentment and frustration at a time he'll potentially just give up- punish him like any other foul at that age, but include some learning if he carries on after that... different kettle of fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 Games gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted April 25 Members Share Posted April 25 The lad should've been booked or possibly sent off. No need for any further punishment. He'd not have done it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, DazBob said: The lad should've been booked or possibly sent off. No need for any further punishment. He'd not have done it again. I disagree - she should have gone to the kitchen as suggested. In the kitchen she'd have found a large sharp knife with which she should have removed the little misogynist twats' left bollock and forced him to eat it at knifepoint. Maybe then he wouldn't have done it again? But as she probably didn't, I suspect he'll probably just grow up to be a bitter wife-beating toerag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I Used to have some cracking banter with the refs years ago, you still can with some of the older refs. To get a ban for the kitchen comment is all a bit pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted April 26 Site Supporter Share Posted April 26 13 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Clearly not right, but when lower level refs are getting twatted etc, a kitchen comment barely sends a ripple. Does that make the comment acceptable? Well, at least he didn’t twat her! OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gonzo Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 If my lad said that to female ref I'd be fucking embarrassed and drag him off myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Agree with @Dr Faustus on the context. If he’s been sent off and given a standard 3 game ban, it’s a non-story and serves him right. If it’s anything more than that, it’s over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 26 Site Supporter Share Posted April 26 11 hours ago, Rival Son said: It’s bit like the Broken Windows theory in criminology, though. if the kitchen comment barely sends a ripple, what about a slightly more serious comment or offence; and so it perpetuates. I’m hardly a “snowflake” type, but respect for referees at all levels but, especially, at grassroots level, should and must be enforced. Oh I agree entirely. Not sure if an outright ban is a bit excessive though; maybe a sending off, and a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 26 Site Supporter Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, MickyD said: Does that make the comment acceptable? Well, at least he didn’t twat her! OK. Read the post again ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 26 Site Supporter Share Posted April 26 10 hours ago, Dr Faustus said: either way @Cheese thinking an 18 year old having to miss a prolonged period of football for something like this is 'good' is absolute bollocks: it will create resentment and frustration at a time he'll potentially just give up- punish him like any other foul at that age, but include some learning if he carries on after that... different kettle of fish I'm sure he's learned his lesson. And whoever brought him up thinking it's ok to speak to a referee like that can get to fuck too. Bet you're one of those who thinks "youngsters don't show enough respect these days". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted April 26 Site Supporter Share Posted April 26 21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Read the post again ffs. I did… FFS. Sounds to me as though you’re claiming a misogynistic and glib comment from an 18 year old kid is ok because he could’ve twatted her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Cheese said: I'm sure he's learned his lesson. And whoever brought him up thinking it's ok to speak to a referee like that can get to fuck too. Bet you're one of those who thinks "youngsters don't show enough respect these days". Weren't like that in my day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Cheese said: I'm sure he's learned his lesson. And whoever brought him up thinking it's ok to speak to a referee like that can get to fuck too. Bet you're one of those who thinks "youngsters don't show enough respect these days". how sure are you? the point i'm making is the punishment should be consistent... a lot of players tail off at 18, if hes banned for the rest of the season there is a chance he wont play again, wont pay his fine, and wont have learned his lesson. fwiw, as an active volunteer, i have seen first hand how much respect youngsters show officials. parents on the other hand can be wankers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 26 Site Supporter Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said: how sure are you? the point i'm making is the punishment should be consistent... a lot of players tail off at 18, if hes banned for the rest of the season there is a chance he wont play again, wont pay his fine, and wont have learned his lesson. fwiw, as an active volunteer, i have seen first hand how much respect youngsters show officials. parents on the other hand can be wankers He shouldn't have said it then. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, Cheese said: He shouldn't have said it then. 🤷♂️ I don’t think anybody is disputing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 26 Site Supporter Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Dr Faustus said: I don’t think anybody is disputing that? Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 26 Moderators Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Weren't like that in my day. mine either, back then the women were in the kitchen and not on the football field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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