Huddersfield Town (H)

[RUREADY2ROLL]

1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:

McAtee was incorrectly made to go off for treatment as the foul was a yellow card 

The ref was a useless cunt

[tshape]

54 minutes ago, Eddie said:

That reminds me. That Mumba nearly pulled ACD’s shirt off his back after about 10 mins. The most obvious professional foul you’ll see, one of those that you usually see after 80 mins or so when players are knackered. Ref gave the foul but no yellow card - ridiculous decision, one of those where it differed just because of the time on the clock, absolutely no other reason to keep the card in the pocket.

Then books Toal (I think it was) for the exact same thing in the 2nd half. It's a yellow card at any stage in the match. Does your head in.

[Dr. Feelgood]

1 hour ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

The ref was a useless cunt

But he DID add 3 more minutes to the 8 additional ones due to their fannying about.

Edited Saturday at 21:00 by Dr. Feelgood

[DazBob]

30 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Wrong, and that should never have been a red.

What's wrong about what I said?

There's no attempt by Tutu to play the ball and he's preventing a goalscoring opportunity, so therefore if the ref sees it as a foul then he has to give him a red card.

 

[barrycowdrill]

16 minutes ago, DazBob said:

so therefore if the ref sees it as a foul then he has to give him a red card.

Therein lies the problem though cos he didn’t see it. He watched their midfielder fall to his knees in front of him claiming it and responded. Both the pen and sending off decisions were assumptions based on the response of their player 

[matty2094]

 

[waffer cup 07]

41 minutes ago, DazBob said:

What's wrong about what I said?

There's no attempt by Tutu to play the ball and he's preventing a goalscoring opportunity, so therefore if the ref sees it as a foul then he has to give him a red card.

 

Because a penalty is NOT, an automatic red, you said it was.

[Traf]

1 hour ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Wrong, and that should never have been a red.

It has to be a red because it is denying a clear goalscoring opportunity and because it's in the box, it's also a penalty.

It's one of the few things the ref got right today.
How he got to the decision was wrong, though.

[Dr. Feelgood]

57 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

The ref was a useless cunt

Talking of which, isn't the new protocol not to create double jeopardy by sending a player off AND giving a penalty for a non-violent action.

Genuine question.

[jmjhb]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Talking of which, isn't the new protocol not to create double jeopardy by sending a player off AND giving a penalty for a non-violent action.

Genuine question.

No, it's got to be a genuine challenge for the ball

[Johnnyrotten]

4 hours ago, jmjhb said:

Which was the one we conceded?  Presume that is all goals after the 90th minute.  So if you're 2-0 up and win 4-0, that's a "win".  The freakish thing about our results is how many were draws or defeats at 90 minutes and turned into wins or draws, I'd expect us to be miles clear of the next team done that way.  Lincoln and Cardiff are usually winning after 90 minutes, they don't need to score late.  Exeter usually losing by more than 1 at 90 minutes, their injury time goals often consolations I'd guess

[jmjhb]

1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Which was the one we conceded?  Presume that is all goals after the 90th minute.  So if you're 2-0 up and win 4-0, that's a "win".  The freakish thing about our results is how many were draws or defeats at 90 minutes and turned into wins or draws, I'd expect us to be miles clear of the next team done that way.  Lincoln and Cardiff are usually winning after 90 minutes, they don't need to score late.  Exeter usually losing by more than 1 at 90 minutes, their injury time goals often consolations I'd guess

Burton away, third goal, believe it was a Beesley penalty

Edited Saturday at 21:07 by jmjhb

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Nevertheless, his point is that we're having to do it to secure points.

Would be better to have points secured rather than let teams into games.

More efficient finishing would have seen to that.

Is that not the case for every team below Cardiff?

Better strikers, better midfielders, better defenders, better tactics = better team, better results.

That's why we aren't winning more games, because we aren't at that level.  We've over achieved by getting so many goals after a time when the ref might have already blown the final whistle.

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Making an absolute mockery of all the clowns who wrote him off after 2 or 3 games. Same can be said for most of our signings though.

Except Apter presumably, as even SS brought everyone else on before him today despite us needing a goal.

But yes, Cissoko is a character, and its sad he's been maybe the only player to be openly booed this season.  The last one I can think of is Kachunga, another who's attitude and personality couldn't be questioned.  Its embarrassing sometimes.  Very pleased for him today, if he never kicks a ball for us again he's had his moment, not dissimilar to Kachunga with the Wembley goal in its own way.

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, Traf said:

I thought we were head and shoulders above them in the first half.

Not at all.  They put a minimum 5 dangerous crosses in from the right plus that long pass that was headed across goal by Sorenson, the Forino loose pass near our goal.  We also had our shots which was great (Kenny, Sheehan), the 2 misses from Dalby, the goal - we deserved to be leading but loads of the possession was by them in our half.  We just about shaded it but they were coming back into it, I remember saying "if they score, the bloke behind us will say its been coming, we deserved that".   They scored.  The bloke behind me said "that's been coming".  Nobody watching that couldn't have disagreed surely. 

[Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Except Apter presumably, as even SS brought everyone else on before him today despite us needing a goal.

But yes, Cissoko is a character, and its sad he's been maybe the only player to be openly booed this season.  The last one I can think of is Kachunga, another who's attitude and personality couldn't be questioned.  Its embarrassing sometimes.  Very pleased for him today, if he never kicks a ball for us again he's had his moment, not dissimilar to Kachunga with the Wembley goal in its own way.

Still not writing Apter off either. It's a fool's game.

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, ianofcleveleys said:

For me, we got a little bit complacent and dismissive of their threat in last 15 mins of first half, dropped off level a bit, let them into the game (even though we still should have scored twice in injury time). For half an hour we were well in command and should have been 2 clear. 

It was as if we were making so many openings no bother, we'll make another and take it. We didn't (off 20 mins in 6 yard box for Dalby), and the threat down their right and risk on our left was blindingly obvious. They put at least 5 uncontested crosses in we just about managed to see off.

It probably wouldn't have gone down well but bringing Conway on for Gale should have happened at half time, damage long since done by time SS did it. We are a liability defensively down that side against any side with a decent RW or RB - they had both in Harness and Sorensen. 

You put it better than me!

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, Ani said:

My assessment

Game should have been killed off by half time. Dalby misses 2 sitters.

They had a threat down the right all day, a centre half playing out of position and a winger not tracking back is not a good combo. Gale was bossed by the right back did not look like going past him. The change to bring Conway on as much more of a wing back than winger looked obvious. First 2 goals came down that side. Down to Schuey IMO. 
 

Their penalty, is IMO the right call, but it was identical to a challenge on Burstow first game of the season where not even a foul was given. Different day, different ref, but if that is enough for a penalty and a red card why when Dalby was nearly pulled over just outside their area in second half it is not even a free kick ? Ref lost the plot, has this rule changed ? 

 

• Injury Due to Cardable Offence: If the player was injured by a reckless tackle (yellow card) or serious foul play (red card), they can be treated quickly on the pitch and remain in the game.

The spirit in the team is great but god it is stressful, when we scored I told the Huddersfield fans ‘to fuck off you Yorkshire bastards’ I have lived in Yorkshire for 42 years 🙄😂

Assume Dempsey was injured ? 
Assume one match ban for Tutu ? 
 

You can see Huddersfield have spent on a few individuals but seem disjointed. Would have the right back tomorrow (think they paid £500k for him 2 years ago) 

 

With the later results it ain’t been a bad day. 

At 3-2 I said "I'd love to be singing 3-1 and you fucked it up" and I don't do a lot of the gloating type chanting, if any.  But sure enough, 3-1 and you fucked it up got an airing and I enjoyed joining in.  If we were 3-1 up at Man City deep into the 2nd half v 10 men and didn't see it through I'd be fuming, so they truly had a nightmare and ended their season into the bargain.

[Dr Faustus]

5 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said:

 

I’m not pulling anything apart tonight… dunno what I enjoyed more, the goal, the shaky camera, the limbs… their tears

How much would you pay for a bag of 100th min goal euphoria? 
 

Its Saturday boys- enjoy the ride

[ianofcleveleys]

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

That reminds me. That Mumba nearly pulled ACD’s shirt off his back after about 10 mins. The most obvious professional foul you’ll see, one of those that you usually see after 80 mins or so when players are knackered. Ref gave the foul but no yellow card - ridiculous decision, one of those where it differed just because of the time on the clock, absolutely no other reason to keep the card in the pocket.

I saw that, clear as day. Ref set the tone for an afternoon that unravelled later with that weak conduct. They should have had two on yellows in first 12 minutes. 

Ref then got in the way twice in midfield, then pulled play back to book one of ours when Hudds were driving into the box (they scored anyway) and he allowed it to descend into chaos late on. Not a good 'un.

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

I really couldn't disagree more with this assessment of Huddersfield. Created nothing in the first half, were relatively fortunate to find themselves 3-1 up against 10-men and still couldn't win. What we did to Stevenage was what a good team does when up multiple goals and with an extra man. They didn't push on for more, and even with 10 we found it pretty easy to find some decent positions in attack.

A couple of decent players, but many more totally average ones and they stink of being absolute bottlers (something like 14 points lost for them after 85mins including six in the past week). They remind me of us last season.

Stevenage and Plymouth are miles better.

They were streets ahead of Stevenage, hard to believe how you think they were better.  I do agree Hudds shouldn't have been 3-1 up, that deflection off Johnston was fortunate, 2-1 was the fairer scoreline at that point.  Then they cocked up big time and still couldn't win, couldn't agree more, I was just commenting on their general play for 80 odd minutes rather than their poor defending and game management.

A couple of decent players?  I'll give you 4: Sorenson, Mumba, Harness, Humphreys (hadn't heard of him but class midfielder, the left footed one, very similar in style and class to Connell).

If you thought they created nothing in the first half, OK.  I can only disagree, not sure what else to say, I must have imagined Forino defending like a trojan facing his own goal at times (he had a stormer BTW).

[Marc505]

8 hours ago, Whitestar said:

Can't be arsed looking for it but this week someone quoted the phrase 

" Scouse con-man C**t"

Strikes a chord with me like.

He was at it today as well

[onefinfrandsen]

27 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not at all.  They put a minimum 5 dangerous crosses in from the right plus that long pass that was headed across goal by Sorenson, the Forino loose pass near our goal.  We also had our shots which was great (Kenny, Sheehan), the 2 misses from Dalby, the goal - we deserved to be leading but loads of the possession was by them in our half.  We just about shaded it but they were coming back into it, I remember saying "if they score, the bloke behind us will say its been coming, we deserved that".   They scored.  The bloke behind me said "that's been coming".  Nobody watching that couldn't have disagreed surely. 

Think we should have been at least 3 up at half time

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, barrycowdrill said:

Huddersfield have some tidy players but playing as individuals. Their RB, No 8 and Harness were very tidy. 
 

Sheehans best game to a while by the way. Seems him and Rodrigues have worked out a very good understanding quickly. Ruben is a very tidy player but also works very hard. Also think his positivity and intent is rubbing off on Sheehan a bit as the last couple of games they’ve looked far more progressive in their passing 

difficult one when Erhahon comes back because it looks to be Sheehan +1 at the minute and what you gain defensively with EE you lose going forward 

I'm glad someone noticed Sheehan's performance today, at 1-3 down I felt he'd have got the usual "he did nothing" comments on here.  Outstanding, on a different level without it being one of his better performances.  Just doesn't waste possession and makes passes others don't see, and as good as anyone defensively today.

[Johnnyrotten]

2 minutes ago, onefinfrandsen said:

Think we should have been at least 3 up at half time

Missing chances isn't a positive is it?  If we want to take all our chances wouldn't we need to sign a better striker?  Its not like we had goals disallowed for a player being 1 inch offside, we missed because we signed a striker that is great at heading a ball and leading the line but isn't a goalscorer.  Its like saying if we had a better keeper we'd be 8 points better off.  We don't, so we aren't.