Huddersfield Town (H)

[onefinfrandsen]

3 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Missing chances isn't a positive is it?  If we want to take all our chances wouldn't we need to sign a better striker?  Its not like we had goals disallowed for a player being 1 inch offside, we missed because we signed a striker that is great at heading a ball and leading the line but isn't a goalscorer.  Its like saying if we had a better keeper we'd be 8 points better off.  We don't, so we aren't.

Dalby missed nearly half a season and has 13 goals, it’s possible if he had been fit he could be on 20 for the season

[Johnnyrotten]

42 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Still not writing Apter off either. It's a fool's game.

There's not writing him off, then there's picking him before ACD, Cissoko, McAtee, Rodriguez, Dempsey, Gale, Burstow on the right.  

Its not a case of not backing him if he's on the pitch, its who you drop for him.

[jeep]

After the game walked to Nam Ploy with former poster SteeJay...

The old bugger said his heart was beating like fuck after that..... 😁

[ianofcleveleys]

18 minutes ago, onefinfrandsen said:

Dalby missed nearly half a season and has 13 goals, it’s possible if he had been fit he could be on 20 for the season

Indeed. Had one of those days today but allowed a bit of slack, still did his hold up work well. Took us till the turn of the year for him to consistently get in the side and the players to work out how to get the most out of him. 

He got 15 for Dundee Utd, ought to have equalled it today

[Johnnyrotten]

13 minutes ago, onefinfrandsen said:

Dalby missed nearly half a season and has 13 goals, it’s possible if he had been fit he could be on 20 for the season

Scored 11.  Hasn't missed nearly half a season, not sure what you mean.  Played in 41 league games.

I like him, I don't want it to sound like I don't rate him, its great that we can aim for him and he wins his headers and wins the physical battles.  I'm just stating that you don't sign Dalby as your main goalscorer, that's not his game. So if he misses chances it comes with the territory, nothing controversial about that, he scores a dozen a season, he isn't a Collins or Ballard etc.

[Johnnyrotten]

7 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Indeed. Had one of those days today but allowed a bit of slack, still did his hold up work well. Took us till the turn of the year for him to consistently get in the side and the players to work out how to get the most out of him. 

He got 15 for Dundee Utd, ought to have equalled it today

Not sure if that's a compliment or criticism?

[royal white]

53 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Scored 11.  Hasn't missed nearly half a season, not sure what you mean.  Played in 41 league games.

I like him, I don't want it to sound like I don't rate him, its great that we can aim for him and he wins his headers and wins the physical battles.  I'm just stating that you don't sign Dalby as your main goalscorer, that's not his game. So if he misses chances it comes with the territory, nothing controversial about that, he scores a dozen a season, he isn't a Collins or Ballard etc.

He’s a Kevin Davis. Probably the only player you could say is an average of a 7 rating every game he’s played. He get physically molested every game and how the refs miss (ignore) it I don’t know 

[Zico]

11 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

We've scored against them in the third, fifth, and twelfth minute of injury time this season

 

 

[Zico]

3 hours ago, onefinfrandsen said:

Dalby missed nearly half a season and has 13 goals, it’s possible if he had been fit he could be on 20 for the season

 

3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Scored 11.  Hasn't missed nearly half a season, not sure what you mean.  Played in 41 league games.

I like him, I don't want it to sound like I don't rate him, its great that we can aim for him and he wins his headers and wins the physical battles.  I'm just stating that you don't sign Dalby as your main goalscorer, that's not his game. So if he misses chances it comes with the territory, nothing controversial about that, he scores a dozen a season, he isn't a Collins or Ballard etc.

Aye

He was on the bench by the 4th game 

Missing pre season was an issue and he only had 2 goals by Christmas 

It's taken him half a season to get going but now he has he's very good

You could argue a full pre season and fully fit and ready to go from day one and he and we might be in a better position goals and table wise 

I'm not going to bother trying to argue it though

[bolty58]

My Huddersfield mate will be picking me up in his vintage Alfa Romeo this coming week for a golf and beer session. Thank fuck for that very late equaliser.

I can now give him plenty of stick on the fucking stuffy nature of all 3 of their goals.

Edited yesterday at 04:10 by bolty58

[DazBob]

12 hours ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Because a penalty is NOT, an automatic red, you said it was.

I never said a penalty is an automatic red.

Edited yesterday at 09:16 by DazBob

[matty2094]

 

[1969]

9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not at all.  They put a minimum 5 dangerous crosses in from the right plus that long pass that was headed across goal by Sorenson, the Forino loose pass near our goal.  We also had our shots which was great (Kenny, Sheehan), the 2 misses from Dalby, the goal - we deserved to be leading but loads of the possession was by them in our half.  We just about shaded it but they were coming back into it, I remember saying "if they score, the bloke behind us will say its been coming, we deserved that".   They scored.  The bloke behind me said "that's been coming".  Nobody watching that couldn't have disagreed surely. 

It's a bit weird how we see the game differently.l agree with Traf,I thought we were the much better side 1st half and for the last 20 minutes of the 2nd

[Kane57]

9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not at all.  They put a minimum 5 dangerous crosses in from the right plus that long pass that was headed across goal by Sorenson

That's what you get playing Johnston at LB. A truly diabolical performance 

[Wanderlust]

9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I'm glad someone noticed Sheehan's performance today, at 1-3 down I felt he'd have got the usual "he did nothing" comments on here.  Outstanding, on a different level without it being one of his better performances.  Just doesn't waste possession and makes passes others don't see, and as good as anyone defensively today.

Definitely an improved performance. His long passing and crossing is still floaty, but he managed to make a couple of decent tackles without giving away a stupid FK for a change and was more up for the physical challenge. I think he was helped by Ruben’s midfield performance and JK’s runs ahead of him - Josh is an excellent player given time on the ball and short/medium passing options.

But MOTM was JK by a street. He delivered everything I had hoped he would when we tried to sign him, and he continues to mature as a player.

[Wanderlust]

Just now, Kane57 said:

That's what you get playing Johnston at LB. A truly diabolical performance 

He was frequently left high, dry and outnumbered by Gale not tracking back so it’s not entirely his fault - and his passing was excellent.

[desperado]

6 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

That's what you get playing Johnston at LB. A truly diabolical performance 

🤣

[ianofcleveleys]

8 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Scored 11.  Hasn't missed nearly half a season, not sure what you mean.  Played in 41 league games.

I like him, I don't want it to sound like I don't rate him, its great that we can aim for him and he wins his headers and wins the physical battles.  I'm just stating that you don't sign Dalby as your main goalscorer, that's not his game. So if he misses chances it comes with the territory, nothing controversial about that, he scores a dozen a season, he isn't a Collins or Ballard etc.

Has actually scored 13 (12 on Transfermarkt haven't given him the goal v Plymouth that was confirmed as his by the dubious goals panel).

Also stretching things more than a bit to say he's 'played 41 games'. He only started 2 before Christmas,  numerous bits and pieces off bench, 11 of them less than 20 minutes. 

The point being made was Burstow's purple patch had long since evaporated and he could have been a reasonable run of games sooner than when he was finally turned to at Wigan.

For sure he had one of those half hours yesterday where he ought to have put at least one of the three away, still did his L1 SKD role pretty well and if he keeps doing the likes of Kenny and ACD will get goals, as others did around SKD in his day. 

No argument with the point about him not having been signed to be a 'natural scorer', whatever that is anyway, more that when brought in he was integral to how SS wanted to play, though his return in Scotland gave hope he'd get a decent number.

I wouldn't overly compare him with Collins, very different types of player and scorer of very different types of goals.

[desperado]

2 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Has actually scored 13 (12 on Transfermarkt haven't given him the goal v Plymouth that was confirmed as his by the dubious goals panel).

Also stretching things more than a bit to say he's 'played 41 games'. He only started 2 before Christmas,  numerous bits and pieces off bench, 11 of them less than 20 minutes. 

The point being made was Burstow's purple patch had long since evaporated and he could have been a reasonable run of games sooner than when he was finally turned to at Wigan.

For sure he had one of those half hours yesterday where he ought to have put at least one of the three away, still did his L1 SKD role pretty well and if he keeps doing the likes of Kenny and ACD will get goals, as others did around SKD in his day. 

No argument with the point about him not having been signed to be a 'natural scorer', whatever that is anyway, more that when brought in he was integral to how SS wanted to play, though his return in Scotland gave hope he'd get a decent number.

I wouldn't overly compare him with Collins, very different types of player and scorer of very different types of goals.

Good post and summary of Dalby that one Ian 

Very good comparison with SKD albeit at a L1 level 👍

 

[boogs]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

My Huddersfield mate will be picking me up in his vintage Alfa Romeo this coming week for a golf and beer session. Thank fuck for that very late equaliser.

I can now give him plenty of stick on the fucking stuffy nature of all 3 of their goals.

Was at a bbq yesterday afternoon with a mate who is a Huddersfield fan. Took delight in showing him the equaliser and sent him every different angle of it I've come across this morning. I know it was a draw, but love it. 😁

[onefinfrandsen]

9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Scored 11.  Hasn't missed nearly half a season, not sure what you mean.  Played in 41 league games.

I like him, I don't want it to sound like I don't rate him, its great that we can aim for him and he wins his headers and wins the physical battles.  I'm just stating that you don't sign Dalby as your main goalscorer, that's not his game. So if he misses chances it comes with the territory, nothing controversial about that, he scores a dozen a season, he isn't a Collins or Ballard etc.

Missed a fair chunk of the season and when he did get fit he had to bide his time from the bench. 

[onefinfrandsen]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

Definitely an improved performance. His long passing and crossing is still floaty, but he managed to make a couple of decent tackles without giving away a stupid FK for a change and was more up for the physical challenge. I think he was helped by Ruben’s midfield performance and JK’s runs ahead of him - Josh is an excellent player given time on the ball and short/medium passing options.

But MOTM was JK by a street. He delivered everything I had hoped he would when we tried to sign him, and he continues to mature as a player.

Jk cemented his place now, he’s got a real edge to his game. Tenacity to win the ball back reminds me of Connor Bradley in someways. Hope we’re in conversation with Celtic regarding getting him back next year.

[Johnnyrotten]

9 hours ago, royal white said:

He’s a Kevin Davis. Probably the only player you could say is an average of a 7 rating every game he’s played. He get physically molested every game and how the refs miss (ignore) it I don’t know 

Its infuriating isn't it, there was one in the 1st half when the CB was trying to remove Dalby's shirt and not a peep from the ref, and of course Dalby doesn't make a meal of it like most would.  Maybe if the CB had touched his hair instead of stopping him run for 30 seconds he'd have got a red!

[Johnnyrotten]

7 hours ago, Zico said:

 

Aye

He was on the bench by the 4th game 

Missing pre season was an issue and he only had 2 goals by Christmas 

It's taken him half a season to get going but now he has he's very good

You could argue a full pre season and fully fit and ready to go from day one and he and we might be in a better position goals and table wise 

I'm not going to bother trying to argue it though

That's a fair summary, he's improved no doubt about it.

I think we did OK out of it points and goals wise because it allowed Burstow to play every week and score all those goals.  Very unlikely they would have both been starting together most games and I suspect Burstow scored more than Dalby would have done given the same starts.

[W.cramp]

1 hour ago, Kane57 said:

That's what you get playing Johnston at LB. A truly diabolical performance 

Sorensen would have roasted Conway today,   good player that lad, cant see him being there next season.