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Nonwithstanding the fact that contracts have been exchanged and signed, I'd like to offer some alternatives for the 'anti' group to consider...Please excuse the crudity of the mock-ups, I haven't got a mouse today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nonwithstanding the fact that contracts have been exchanged and signed, I'd like to offer some alternatives for the 'anti' group to consider...Please excuse the crudity of the mock-ups, I haven't got a mouse today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're no Diddles.

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Years ago, people would have just had to get on with it because it wasn't so easy to get money. I suppose now that you can get cash in your bank within about 10 minutes with pretty much no questions asked, then people feel happier borrowing short term without any real thought about the long term consequences.

 

There is a lot of talk about how thes ecompanies prey on the "vulnerable" - I'm still not sure who or what the "vulnerable" are, and at what point does somebody fall into that bracket?

Spot on your first paragraph

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Whatever discussion takes place on here wont matter one iota to the powers that be so we should agree to disagree & move on .Although I am against the

quickquid sponsorship I cant bring myself to sign the petition as we know it will be mainly populated by non-supporters and Guardian readers from Surbiton.

At the end of the day i'll be there next season & I'll be there when quickquid are but a smudge on the reebock (or cashconverter stadium as it will then be known) carpark.

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Unfortunately, and of course I'm speculating wildly here, but I'd imagine in a lot of cases this is a reason for folk taking out what are initially very small loans.

 

As I alluded to above, there will also be emergencies such as kids' birthday parties to pay for.

 

Maybe it's just the way the world is now. Everyone is used to being able to spend money without having to give a second thought to how/when they;re going to be able to pay it back, whether it be pay day loans, store cards, credit cards, selling your gran's telly to Cash Convertor (with the intention of buying it back of course).

 

IMO the people who do look to this easy way of getting what they can't afford (and I've certainly been guilty of this in the past) rather than changing their lifestyles need to take a look at themselves rather than simply blaming someone else for 'preying' on them.

 

Can't disagree with that.

 

But we're talking about people who don't know how to manage their money or how to decide what's essential and what isn't ........... people with multiple massive credit card bills for things they don't really need, huge mortgage they can't afford on a house that's too big and/or in too expensive an area, and so on. That's modern life.

 

Even so, it's a decision which was bound to be divisive and (IMHO) is a PR own-goal.

 

Then again, when you've been relegated and have run the business into £110m of debt to the owner (whatever that means in the real world), your sponsorship options are going to be severely limited. And £250K a year will pay a couple of our squad players for 6 months or so, though it won't cover PG's salary. 'Every little helps'. :drinks:

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Whatever discussion takes place on here wont matter one iota to the powers that be so we should agree to disagree & move on .Although I am against the

quickquid sponsorship I cant bring myself to sign the petition as we know it will be mainly populated by non-supporters and Guardian readers from Surbiton.

At the end of the day i'll be there next season & I'll be there when quickquid are but a smudge on the reebock (or cashconverter stadium as it will then be known) carpark.

 

Agreed.

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I still want to know why gartside thinks its going to bring the fun back into match days.

Is he gonna sit back with his caviar and champagne at halftime looking at the crowd sniggering that many of them have got deep into debt with quick quid??

 

 

Cunt of a man

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The Anti group are meeting with Mps this afternoon to discuss the problem. I'm waiting for fat cliff now to speak out. What a joke.

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Unfortunately, and of course I'm speculating wildly here, but I'd imagine in a lot of cases this is a reason for folk taking out what are initially very small loans.

 

As I alluded to above, there will also be emergencies such as kids' birthday parties to pay for.

 

Maybe it's just the way the world is now. Everyone is used to being able to spend money without having to give a second thought to how/when they;re going to be able to pay it back, whether it be pay day loans, store cards, credit cards, selling your gran's telly to Cash Convertor (with the intention of buying it back of course).

 

IMO the people who do look to this easy way of getting what they can't afford (and I've certainly been guilty of this in the past) rather than changing their lifestyles need to take a look at themselves rather than simply blaming someone else for 'preying' on them.

 

The actual idea of a payday loan that stops you going overdrawn or means you can pay a bill that comes in is fine. I do not know anyone who at some pont has not been skint a couple of days before pay day.

 

There are rules on lending that these companies ignore, then there are punitive penalties for minor errors or delays in repayment. The companies business models are built on people missing payments and getting hammered as a result. This is all hidden away in the small print. The fact is that people using these services do not understand what they are signing up to. The law states that everything must be clear and easy to understand. It is not.

 

There will always be people who no matter what you do that will end up in a mess but unfair to tar everyone with same brush. Just read some of the real stories in the press on this. Remember we are in a world wide recession prompted by bad lending, just because these people are only lending a few quid to people does not make it any less wrong.

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All those brining Gartside an co's salary into question...

 

How much would you want to be paid to be chairman of a football club that's just spent over a decade in the most lucrative league in the entire world?

 

Hardly stacking the shelves at Burnden asda It?

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The Anti group are meeting with Mps this afternoon to discuss the problem. I'm waiting for fat cliff now to speak out. What a joke.

Jesus Fucking Christ
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All joking and sarcasm aside, it'd be interesting (although it'd be impossible) to see some stats on the REAL reasons why the majority of 'pay day' loans are taken out and if, by a little belt tightening and proper management of their own money these people would discover they didn't actually need to borrow in the first place.

 

 

The young lad we work with uses Wonga to buy Mcdonalds, as do his mates.

 

They see nothing wrong with it, as 'its only 20 quid at the end of the month'.

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Not all folk who use / have used pay day loans are deluded

 

Just the ones that bitch and moan about it after

 

I used the money shop years a go to get me out of a hole. It cost me a bomb but at the time I had no alternative

 

I'm not bitching and moaning about it, infanct I'm great full for the service. The alternative was much worse.

 

I hope QQ sponsoring us helps market their services and others are helped out of horrendous holes with a short term loans when knowine else will touch them as I was.

 

Viva la Quick Quid

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All those brining Gartside an co's salary into question...

 

How much would you want to be paid to be chairman of a football club that's just spent over a decade in the most lucrative league in the entire world?

 

Hardly stacking the shelves at Burnden asda It?

 

Be interesting to see what he now gets given he is managing a company that has significantly less turn over than a couple of years ago.

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Is that bellend that was going to act as a conduit between the fans and club involved? Indeed, WTF happened to him?

 

Not been seen since he went for a pint with Miami and Anewman.

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i will say again... I don't see the difference between quick quid & 188 bet except that gambling is addictive

 

I don't want the name on the shirt though, it to me cheapens the club... you might as well be sponsored by poundland or Lidl (not that there's anything wrong with either shop) as it doesn't give the impression of quality and professionalism that a higher reputation sponsor would have... such as Ford or Audi (these are 2 names plucked out the sky and not suggestions)

 

I don't really buy shirts anyway, but I wouldn't walk about with quick quid emblazoned on my chest... ikt is my snobbery, not the exploitation of people who are too foolish to pay back in the timeframe they agreed to when taking out the SHORT TERM loan. As has been said before on the matter... if you borrow a tenner off a mate in the pub til payday you buy him a p[int for his generosity. It's your fault if he expects a pint for every day your late paying him back, not his.

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i will say again... I don't see the difference between quick quid & 188 bet except that gambling is addictive

 

I don't want the name on the shirt though, it to me cheapens the club... you might as well be sponsored by poundland or Lidl (not that there's anything wrong with either shop) as it doesn't give the impression of quality and professionalism that a higher reputation sponsor would have... such as Ford or Audi (these are 2 names plucked out the sky and not suggestions)

 

I don't really buy shirts anyway, but I wouldn't walk about with quick quid emblazoned on my chest... ikt is my snobbery, not the exploitation of people who are too foolish to pay back in the timeframe they agreed to when taking out the SHORT TERM loan. As has been said before on the matter... if you borrow a tenner off a mate in the pub til payday you buy him a p[int for his generosity. It's your fault if he expects a pint for every day your late paying him back, not his.

 

Would you let them sponsor your caravan Jazza?

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Jules I know your business used a sponsorship recently for very honourable reasons.

 

But it is fair to assume that this lot are doing it to boost business, not sure why else they would

I'm sure they did

 

What I'm saying is that it will only boost business if folk use it rather than a competitor - say Wonga etc, specifically because they know of it through BWFC or they feel loyalty to the brand due to the BWFC connections

 

When Reebok sponsored BWFC, I probably bought more Reebok gear as I felt the connection

 

With 188Bet I didn't stop using PaddyPower etc as I didn't feel a connection to the brand. 188 even ran comps on here that I won and used their seats. I gave nothing back other than using the in ground kiosls because they were there. QQ can't use that, so are going on brand connection, recognition and loyalty rather than a synergy of the businesses (I fucking hope!)

 

So, if enough folk feel the same & BWFC get the sponsorship money no matter what the difference is to QQ; let's take their money....call THEM cunts - not BWFC, take the money and run so as to speak

 

Nobody would get a paydayloan that didn't consider one before BECAUSE they know off QQ through BWFC. They may choose that brand over another though and were going to do it anyway - that's a bit like when we had Diouf - he was a cunt, but he was our cunt

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