Donald Dead Cat On Is Head Trump

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

Ozempic?

Medicine 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

Medicine 

Wouldn't mind a similar investigation and action on some of the NHS drugs purchasing.

Suggestions abound over huge overpayment for some basic stuff.

[Winchester White]

40 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Wouldn't mind a similar investigation and action on some of the NHS drugs purchasing.

Suggestions abound over huge overpayment for some basic stuff.

I am sure I read a while back that the NHS pays far less for most medication compared to the US, @kent_white might know more.

[Zico]

4 hours ago, Zico said:

 

 

It pretty much sums up MAGA It's very insular

The population of USA is less than the rest of the world

It's usa v rest of the world

He will isolate them from the rest of the world unless there's a good deal to be had

[Nowack]

17 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I am sure I read a while back that the NHS pays far less for most medication compared to the US, @kent_white might know more.

This is why some medicines are harder to get in the UK. If you have a limited supply the NHS is bound to pay the amount agreed so the manufacturers will sell to the other countries first. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

20 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I am sure I read a while back that the NHS pays far less for most medication compared to the US, @kent_white might know more.

That may or not be the case.

Not really the point I was making.

What the USA pays is their business. 

There are loads of quickly accessible articles from official bodies that highlight NHS overpayments.

Can't say what it's like now, but the NHS was also known for being a bad (slow) payer of invoices, which won't stand them in good stead with suppliers.

[kent_white]

3 hours ago, Winchester White said:

I am sure I read a while back that the NHS pays far less for most medication compared to the US, @kent_white might know more.

Yeah we pay much much less. Because of loads of arrangements we've got in place. 

We actually spend much less as a percentage of the total cost of the NHS on meds as a result (compared to other health systems). 

There's the odd medication that we've occasionally paid over the odds for - but that's very much the exception rather than the rule. And there are so many checks and balances in place that it's usually big news when this isn't the case. 

Our biggest problem is probably prescribing stuff like paracetamol which is miles cheaper to buy OTC at ASDA. Or continuing to deliver meds to patients at home who then don't take them and hoard them all up without actually using them. I've been in patient's homes on nursing visits that have looked like a branch of Boots. 

But overall - we do really well with the prices we pay for meds. 

It's almost like us NHS managers know what we're doing, and aren't just sucking at the tax payers teat and attending pride marches 😁

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/nhs-is-paying-too-much-for-drugs-to-the-detriment-of-other-services-analysis-suggests

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1804144/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31507861&ved=2ahUKEwigrLHv3KCNAxUgTUEAHbvDD704ChAWegQIJRAB&usg=AOvVaw1JtntsZWKry-FGbfS_aWMc

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cost-medicines-nhs-we-paying-too-much-john-kirby-ki6be

 

Could go on.

There are many analyses that say spending could be better.

As Kent says, something as simple as paracetamol!

It might be better than others- certainly America- but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better.

 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/nhs-is-paying-too-much-for-drugs-to-the-detriment-of-other-services-analysis-suggests

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1804144/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31507861&ved=2ahUKEwigrLHv3KCNAxUgTUEAHbvDD704ChAWegQIJRAB&usg=AOvVaw1JtntsZWKry-FGbfS_aWMc

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cost-medicines-nhs-we-paying-too-much-john-kirby-ki6be

 

Could go on.

There are many analyses that say spending could be better.

As Kent says, something as simple as paracetamol!

It might be better than others- certainly America- but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better.

 

To be fair though - whilst these things are a concern. They are waaaaaaaaaaaay down the list of priorities at the moment. 

And will likely get worse when we pot 50% of the managers in the next couple of months. 

[Cheese]

15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/nhs-is-paying-too-much-for-drugs-to-the-detriment-of-other-services-analysis-suggests

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1804144/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31507861&ved=2ahUKEwigrLHv3KCNAxUgTUEAHbvDD704ChAWegQIJRAB&usg=AOvVaw1JtntsZWKry-FGbfS_aWMc

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cost-medicines-nhs-we-paying-too-much-john-kirby-ki6be

 

Could go on.

There are many analyses that say spending could be better.

As Kent says, something as simple as paracetamol!

It might be better than others- certainly America- but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better.

 

2 of those articles are from 2015, and 1 is from 2007. Can't see the linkedin one as I'm not on it.

[Bertie]

I’m all for health care providers and ultimately patients not being ripped off for the price of medicines.  The US in particular is exorbitant so fair play to Trumpy if he can fix this and make more medicines more affordable for more people.

The elephant in the room though is the cost of developing new medicines.  If you take into account the cost of those that fail in development then it’s ~ $4 billion to bring one new drug successfully to market.  Not cheap.  So, if drug companies make less money on licenced drugs then begs the question can they still afford to invest in new ones ….

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Yeah we pay much much less. Because of loads of arrangements we've got in place. 

We actually spend much less as a percentage of the total cost of the NHS on meds as a result (compared to other health systems). 

There's the odd medication that we've occasionally paid over the odds for - but that's very much the exception rather than the rule. And there are so many checks and balances in place that it's usually big news when this isn't the case. 

Our biggest problem is probably prescribing stuff like paracetamol which is miles cheaper to buy OTC at ASDA. Or continuing to deliver meds to patients at home who then don't take them and hoard them all up without actually using them. I've been in patient's homes on nursing visits that have looked like a branch of Boots. 

But overall - we do really well with the prices we pay for meds. 

It's almost like us NHS managers know what we're doing, and aren't just sucking at the tax payers teat and attending pride marches 😁

My old man has more Codrydamol than any man could wish to sell on central drive.

[Cheese]

57 minutes ago, Bertie said:

I’m all for health care providers and ultimately patients not being ripped off for the price of medicines.  The US in particular is exorbitant so fair play to Trumpy if he can fix this and make more medicines more affordable for more people.

The elephant in the room though is the cost of developing new medicines.  If you take into account the cost of those that fail in development then it’s ~ $4 billion to bring one new drug successfully to market.  Not cheap.  So, if drug companies make less money on licenced drugs then begs the question can they still afford to invest in new ones ….

Is he not just reinstating Biden's Pharmaceuticals Bill, that he cancelled in his first few days?

[gonzo]

20 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Is he not just reinstating Biden's Pharmaceuticals Bill, that he cancelled in his first few days?

He likes to make a big fuck off mess then thinks he looks good clearing it all up.

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Is he not just reinstating Biden's Pharmaceuticals Bill, that he cancelled in his first few days?

Apparently so, I don't know how true that is though. 

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, royal white said:

To be fair what he’s doing at the moment is fkin ridiculous, I mean who in their right mind wants to make medicine more affordable? The man’s a nutter! 

'Equalizing'. He is brilliant that lad 

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, kent_white said:

It's almost like us NHS managers know what we're doing, and aren't just sucking at the tax payers teat and attending pride marches 😁

Pack it in. You can fool some of the people some of the time..........

[Spider]

The leader of the most powerful country on earth has put this on public media.

To repeat, this man leads the most powerful nation on earth, and has been rattled by a singer saying nasty things about him in Manchester.

 

[tomski]

What are Retruths? Have they replaced retweets 😂

[tyldesley_white]

48 minutes ago, Spider said:

The leader of the most powerful country on earth has put this on public media.

To repeat, this man leads the most powerful nation on earth, and has been rattled by a singer saying nasty things about him in Manchester.

 

love the threat at the end , nice touch

[royal white]

55 minutes ago, Spider said:

The leader of the most powerful country on earth has put this on public media.

To repeat, this man leads the most powerful nation on earth, and has been rattled by a singer saying nasty things about him in Manchester.

 

That ace 😂

to be fair it’s all a bit weird from BS. Middle Of a gig in manny and he starts papping about the Don. Just fkin sing you dried out Prune. 

[Bertie]

A quarter of an hour later he also had another (this time unprovoked) pop at Taylor Swift. The guy’s not well.

 

Edited May 16, 2025 by Bertie

[Jol_BWFC]

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

A quarter of an hour later he also had another (this time unprovoked) pop at Taylor Swift. The guy’s not well.

 

This from the bloke who fancies his HOT daughter (Trump, not Bertie)

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, royal white said:

That ace 😂

to be fair it’s all a bit weird from BS. Middle Of a gig in manny and he starts papping about the Don. Just fkin sing you dried out Prune. 

Or preferably don't and just fuck off. I'd rather listen to an assembly of this sites screechers torturing Flower Of Scotland than that crime against music.

[Bertie]

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Or preferably don't and just fuck off. I'd rather listen to an assembly of this sites screechers torturing Flower Of Scotland than that crime against music.

I’m surprised.  Like Trumpy I’d have thought you were more of a YMCA man.