Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 I think Gonzo or Victor Meldrew would be able to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Lack of proper cellars doesn't help. Correct, piss poor cellars at the wrong temperature certainly don't help. As mentioned above, cleaning the lines is also important, and should be done at least once per week...yes it causes a bit of waste, but that's expected and should be written off. My Mother-In-law's pub shed about 4 or 5 pints per line when doing the lines, but she reckons it's better than the wastage they get if people return a pint claiming it's "off" Another massive problem is dirty glasses. If you get one of those shit pints and there are loads of bubbles on the inside of the glass, just sitting there, those bubbles are generally clinging onto something......which shouldn't be there, be that detergent or dust. Too many places get away with serving shit ale, when you're paying £3~£5 a pint, you should be sending it back if you're not happy with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bock Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) I went into a pub a few weeks back and the ale tasted of vinegar, I sent it back and I was looked at like a proper weirdo. I can't think of many other products where you can get away with selling it completely sub par. If you don't have the time to look after ale don't sell it. If you can't look after keg beer like lager, then you shouldn't be running a pub. Scott's bar was crap, if you're going to flog masses of crap beer in plastic glasses at least put some Wanderers goal compilations on or serve people at a reasonable pace. It wont be missed. Edited February 28, 2017 by Super Bock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Right miserable cunt behind the bar, fucking hates customers i've thought of one the Allardyce Boars Head Inn . owner sees another publican park up in a ferrari , so gets jealous and moves to sunderand to ultimately sit on a park bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 I went into a pub a few weeks back and the ale tasted of vinegar, I sent it back and I was looked at like a proper weirdo. I can't think of many other products where you can get away with selling it completely sub par. If you don't have the time to look after ale don't sell it. If you can't look after keg beer like lager, then you shouldn't be running a pub. Scott's bar was crap, if you're going to flog masses of crap beer in plastic glasses at least put some Wanderers goal compilations on or serve people at a reasonable pace. It wont be missed. I think that'll almost certainly be lager and from a line overdue a clean. I taste a lot of vinegar! Mostly the expensive lagers rather than the cheap shit which maybe leads me back to the fact that there is a massive wastage involved in cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Oops, double post Edited February 28, 2017 by MickyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 Was Old Orleans and Mil House any good, I cant remember for being too drunk in those days, Ive never been a massive fan of Scotts / Jeffersons, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Was Old Orleans and Mil House any good, I cant remember for being too drunk in those days, If you fancied a fight, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 As Scott's was shit. It must've been empty on none match days At most there's potentially 30 home games or so in a year, an empty pub for 335 days a year isn't going to last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Correct, piss poor cellars at the wrong temperature certainly don't help. As mentioned above, cleaning the lines is also important, and should be done at least once per week...yes it causes a bit of waste, but that's expected and should be written off. My Mother-In-law's pub shed about 4 or 5 pints per line when doing the lines, but she reckons it's better than the wastage they get if people return a pint claiming it's "off" Another massive problem is dirty glasses. If you get one of those shit pints and there are loads of bubbles on the inside of the glass, just sitting there, those bubbles are generally clinging onto something......which shouldn't be there, be that detergent or dust. Too many places get away with serving shit ale, when you're paying £3~£5 a pint, you should be sending it back if you're not happy with it Correct with everything you say. It's really not rocket science to keep lager ok. Stored and poured at the correct temps, clean lines, cold and clean glasses are all you need on your check list. The moment any beverage let alone lager is poured into a plastic pot you may as abolish its authenticity. It kills the pint in an instant and goes against every guideline in the book on how to serve beer. It's a joke they get away with it. The stuff in the ground is almost undrinkable. I dread to think when the last time the lines were cleaned in ESL. There will be fuck all due diligence with that lot. But folk put up with it and continue to buy it. So they'll keep doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted February 28, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 28, 2017 Scotts is very busy on a sat night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Whats the pub just across from Tesco....barnstormers? that was a decent ish pint last time i went in. surprised more don't go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big City Girl Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 As Scott's was shit. It must've been empty on none match days At most there's potentially 30 home games or so in a year, an empty pub for 335 days a year isn't going to last. No, teenage bottle and spirit drinkers loved it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Renamed "Missoula" or summat like that.The sign underneath reads "Sport,Food,Cocktails" Change is bad. googled it they have 3 more manc/ York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 Many moons ago my dad's local was a pub with a genuine cellar. One night a band was playing- the drummer thumped out a few beats with his foot pedal, which resonated down to the barrels, and shook up the sediment in the ale. (Proper stuff then). Landlord was fastidious and wouldn't serve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted February 28, 2017 Members Share Posted February 28, 2017 Correct with everything you say. It's really not rocket science to keep lager ok. Stored and poured at the correct temps, clean lines, cold and clean glasses are all you need on your check list. The moment any beverage let alone lager is poured into a plastic pot you may as abolish its authenticity. It kills the pint in an instant and goes against every guideline in the book on how to serve beer. It's a joke they get away with it. The stuff in the ground is almost undrinkable. I dread to think when the last time the lines were cleaned in ESL. There will be fuck all due diligence with that lot. But folk put up with it and continue to buy it. So they'll keep doing it. There's a pub in York, right by the river so every time it rains a bit it floods So much so that all the barrels are kept on the first floor rather than the cellar. Would that make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 That's only the second time in wways history the word fastidious has been used. Youri used it the first time. http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/87092-christmas-scam/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 There's a pub in York, right by the river so every time it rains a bit it floods So much so that all the barrels are kept on the first floor rather than the cellar. Would that make a difference? Potentially. A proper cellar has a daily steady temp, ideally 12 degrees celcius or thereabouts. Ale should be cool not cold not warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Potentially. A proper cellar has a daily steady temp, ideally 12 degrees celcius or thereabouts. Ale should be cool not cold not warm. Spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Potentially. A proper cellar has a daily steady temp, ideally 12 degrees celcius or thereabouts. Ale should be cool not cold not warm. Aye cask and real ale is a whole different ball game. Upset those CAMRA members at your peril Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 Aye cask and real ale is a whole different ball game. Upset those CAMRA members at your peril I am one! Might give it up though as I'm now dry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted February 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2017 The 5 fundamentals of beer quality Product Hygiene Dispense system Glassware Serve Corporate greed and lazy people are the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtoe Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Whats the pub just across from Tesco....barnstormers? that was a decent ish pint last time i went in. surprised more don't go there. Sssshhh Dont spread that news.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 where's good for a pint and late brekkie round there? used to take little un in Scotts for some scran and a pint after games at the arena; season starts again on saturday, so might consider a change of venue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Sssshhh Dont spread that news.. Yeah. It's shit. Proper shit. Avoid at all costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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