Racist Fat C*nts

[enzo gambaro]

i take your point, that wasn't the fault of the writers though, was it

No, but I'm not sure what they're achieving if half the target audience thinks the main character is brilliant because he tells it like it is and doesn't give a shit.

 

I'm not really sure what point I'm making either, but there's one in there somewhere, I'm sure.

Edited July 17, 2017 by enzo gambaro

[Sweep]

 half the target audience thinks the main character is brilliant because he tells it like it is and doesn't give a shit.

 

 

 

usually though, anybody who "tells it like it is and doesn't give a shit" is a complete moron, and generally has no grasp on what's actually going on, and only say outrageous things when surrounded by other fellow morons

[madthatter]

No, but I'm not sure what they're achieving if half the target audience thinks the main character is brilliant because he tells it like it is and doesn't give a shit.

 

I'm not really sure what point I'm making either, but there's one in there somewhere, I'm sure.

 

End of the day, then and now, if a show/character is popular then it will carry on . . . TV execs don't care why people like it; well, perhaps more so nowadays but still.

 

Little Britain (not really a fan myself) was a bit risque at times for a popular prime time show but I think more folk 'got the joke' this time around.

[Whites man]

usually though, anybody who "tells it like it is and doesn't give a shit" is a complete moron, and generally has no grasp on what's actually going on, and only say outrageous things when surrounded by other fellow morons

They don't like "being told as it is" when it concerns something about themselves.

[Traf]

usually though, anybody who "tells it like it is and doesn't give a shit" is a complete moron, and generally has no grasp on what's actually going on, and only say outrageous things when surrounded by other fellow morons

 

POTUS

[MancWanderer]

Was at a company team-building thing (yawn!!!!) a couple of weeks ago. Had to decide who was going to do the next "task". Irish manager stood up and said "Eeny Meeny Miney Mo, catch a n*gger by his toe" Absolutely couldn't understand what she'd said wrong!!

[Ani]

Went to See Bernard first in Bradford. Then to his club.

 

In his club he was rubbish. Just seemed a sad bitter man. Folk being chucked out for being too loud in audience.

 

In Bradford he was very funny but racist. You can hardly complain though know what you are getting.

 

Never sure if the Chubby Brown stories about Bradford fires jokes are true are not. If they are he is a total cunt.

Edited July 17, 2017 by Ani

[Zico]

They just said what most folk were thinking at the time,and had a laugh about it.

Then the loony left kicked in - re-invented the racist word & ruined it all.

Pretty sure the age old definition of racism will cover his set as reported here less than 3 years ago

 

https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/jmb4k4/roy-chubby-brown-gig-133

[gonzo]

Pretty sure the age old definition of racism will cover his set as reported here less than 3 years ago

 

https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/jmb4k4/roy-chubby-brown-gig-133

 

He went straight into a routine about Ebola (which he called, perhaps on purpose, "Eboli"). "We've got AIDS from West Africa; we've got malaria from West Africa; we've got pneumonia from West Africa and now we've got Eboli. Apparently the Africans got it because they were eating bats. No wonder them niggers have got big lips!"

 

Just a bit of non racist light hearted banter.

[DazBob]

Delroy was laughing his head off behind the bar.

[jules_darby]

Delroy was laughing his head off behind the bar.

Aye

 

You should've seen his facey

[Whites man]

He went straight into a routine about Ebola (which he called, perhaps on purpose, "Eboli"). "We've got AIDS from West Africa; we've got malaria from West Africa; we've got pneumonia from West Africa and now we've got Eboli. Apparently the Africans got it because they were eating bats. No wonder them niggers have got big lips!"

Just a bit of non racist light hearted banter.

Odds on that anyone defending that shit on here will be over 50.

[Traf]

Odds on that anyone defending that shit on here will be over 50.

 

Or just fucking racist.

[Youri McAnespie]

I'm sure Chubby Brown mainly did shagging, wanking etc. gags when I was a kid - I wasn't one for racist shite even then...Anyway, I saw a bit of his recent act on sommat and like Kent and the Vice link report he's not only an unfunny cunt these days he's a racist unfunny cunt.

[bolty58]

Shortly before he died, my old mate Spike Milligan said he wanted an inscription on his tombstone to read: "I told you I was ill.'

Well, now that I'm gone, I want carved on my gravestone these words, in letters so small that any visitor will have to move right up close to read them: "Get off! You're standing on my privates."

Oh, I know there'll be a few who won't mourn my passing, like mothers-in-law up and down the country. I'll never forget the day I took my own mother-in-law to the Chamber of Horrors in Madame Tussauds. Suddenly, one of the attendants whispered to me: "Please keep her moving. We're trying to do a stock take."

The one bad thing about dying quietly in Manchester is that I cannot fulfil the solemn promise I made to the old battleaxe. "When you die, I'm going to dance on your grave," she once said. To which I replied: "I hope you do, because I'm going to be buried at sea."

I don't think the Commission for Racial Equality will be holding a wake for me, either. Nor will the Lesbian and Gay Rights lot or the feminists. They were always banging on about how I was sexist or anti-gay.

It was their campaigning that kept me off mainstream television for years, while filling the airwaves with a bunch of fifth rate so-called comics who were about as funny as a dose of bird flu and whose acts had all the humour of a funeral parlour. (Trust me, I'm in one now and there's not a laugh to be had anywhere).

In their obsession with turning comedy into a branch of Left-wing politics, they forgot that the only point of jokes is to make people laugh. And that was what I was good at, whether I was on the cabaret circuit in Manchester or at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Well, at least I won't be seeing any of the po-faced, politically- correct brigade where I'm going. I had quite enough of them in my lifetime.

What they never understood was that I was an equal opportunities comedian. Unlike them, with all their little checklists and taboos and easy targets, I never discriminated against anyone or anything. I was quite happy to get a laugh out of any situation. All that mattered to me was whether the gag was funny or not.

"I had a distant German relative who died at Auschwitz. He fell out of one of the watchtowers."

Now that's humour, precisely because it's close to the edge, unlike so many of the tired, comfortable, right- on linesabout George Bush in which modern comics indulge, massaging the consciences of their middle-class audiences instead of giving them raw entertainment.

Oh, I can see the other obituaries already: "Bernard Manning, racist bigot", the smug types will say when they hear of my departure.

But that's not what the great British public, especially in Lancashire and the rest of the North, will say. They knew that I was a funny bloke. That's why they kept flocking back to my own cabaret club, even when I was barred from the airwaves.

And I was never a racist. That's just an easy, catch-all term of abuse bandied around by the media elite against anyone who does not follow their agenda. It was just meaningless.

When told by some toffee-nosed southerner that I was prejudiced, I used to say: "Have you actually seen my act?" They would then admit they hadn't. "Then you don't know what you're talking about. You're the one who is prejudiced because you are pre-judging me."

If they'd ever bothered to turn up at one of my shows, they'd have soon discovered I told gags about everyone, including all sorts of politicians and the Royal Family.

In fact the Queen once told me with a smile, after a Royal Command Performance, how much she liked my act. If it was good enough for her, it should have been good enough for anyone.

Racist? Rubbish. Did these self righteous critics know that Clive Lloyd, the great West Indian cricket captain, asked me to perform as part of his testimonial?

Or that I did a fund-raising event for the Lancashire and India wicketkeeper Farokh Engineer and another for the great black boxing champion John Conteh? For goodness-sake, I was multi-racial myself, a descendant of Jewish immigrants from Sevastopol. Throughout my life, a sign with the Jewish greeting 'Shalom' hung by door of my home in North Manchester.

I was born in 1930 in the Ancoats district of the city, and I never lived more than five miles from my birthplace. I always loved Manchester and her people, though that kind of loyalty and sense of belonging is never understood by the metropolitan elite who despise their own country.

My dad was a greengrocer and it was a tough upbringing, for the North was in the pit of depression and money and food were short. I was one of six children and was forced to share a bed with all my siblings, some of whom regularly wet the bed. In fact, I learnt to swim before I could walk.

I remember one night, my mother asked me: "Where do you want to sleep?" I replied: "At the shallow end."

I went to an ordinary local school and left at the age of 14, taking up a job at the Senior Service tobacco factory in Manchester. From my earliest years, I had a bit of a talent for performing, singing in choirs and at work. Then, when I was 16, my life changed dramatically on being called up to serve in the Manchester Regiment of the British Army.

Even though the war was over, I had to go out to Germany, where I was one of the armed guards watching over the Nazi hierarchy locked up in Spandau prison. For a 16-year-old, it was a bizarre experience, standing over the likes of Rudolf Hess and Albert Speer with a Bren gun.

Back home, I was a good enough singer to make it as a professional. It looked like I'd really hit the big time when, in February 1952, I was booked to sing at the London Lyceum theatre with the Oscar Rabin Big Band, with the show to be broadcast on the radio.

But the very day I was due to take to the stage King George VI died, so the event was cancelled. I'll never forgive the King for dying like that. He left me high and dry.

But soon I found that I was even better at telling gags than I was at singing and in the late 1950s I opened my own club in a converted billiard hall, Manchester's famous Embassy Club.

The venue attracted many of the biggest names in British showbusiness including Matt Monro, and even the Beatles. It also led to my show on ITV called The Comedians, which was so successful that in 1978 I was even asked to play at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Indeed, my act was an equally big success on the other side of the Atlantic, though I had to adapt his material for American audiences. So Irish jokes became Polish ones, such as: "This Polish man gets a job in Californian zoo. One day a workmate says to him, "For $2,000, would you have sex with the gorilla in that cage?"

"The Pole thinks for a minute and then says, "Yeah, all right. But on three conditions. First, that I don't have to kiss her. Second, that you don't tell any of my mates. And third, that you give me a fortnight to get the money together"."

I supposed the animal rights lobby would get me on that one.

But despite my TV appearances being reduced since the Eighties, I've still managed to enjoy a long and fruitful career. I wouldn't have changed any of it for a moment.

I was glad I managed to make it into my late 70s, but then there was always a very strong survival instinct in my family. I had an uncle who was still having sex at 74. Which was lucky, as he lived at Number 72.

It was also a contented end, which reminds me of another long lived uncle, a bus driver who went peacefully in his sleep - not screaming like his passengers.

And as I look down now on all the over-paid executives who have made such a mess of television and undermined true comedy, and as I sense the affection from the mass of the British public, I know that I am the one having the last laugh.

 

[madthatter]

He went straight into a routine about Ebola (which he called, perhaps on purpose, "Eboli"). "We've got AIDS from West Africa; we've got malaria from West Africa; we've got pneumonia from West Africa and now we've got Eboli. Apparently the Africans got it because they were eating bats. No wonder them niggers have got big lips!"

 

Just a bit of non racist light hearted banter.

 

I'e said before I don't find it funny or acceptable, and wouldn't use it or like to be around it, but it is questionable whether that constitutes racism.

 

It is certainly using overt racial language in a derogatory way but isn't racism by the strictest definition.

 

However, what constitutes racism today is unclear and the term has become ambiguous.

 

Apartheid = racist      A Bernard Manning gag = offensive (possibly)

Edited July 18, 2017 by madthatter

[Ani]

I'e said before I don't find it funny or acceptable, and wouldn't use it or like to be around it, but it is questionable whether that constitutes racism.

 

It is certainly using overt racial language in a derogatory way but isn't racism by the strictest definition.

 

However, what constitutes racism today is unclear and the term has become ambiguous.

 

Apartheid = racist A Bernard Manning gag = offensive (possibly)

In what context is niggers have big lips not racist ?

 

Use of the n word is. Saying they all look the same is.

[Burndens Bogs]

Comedy has moved on - it needed to,it had to.

What might have been funny in the 70's/80's just isn't funny anymore.

Edited July 18, 2017 by Burndens Bogs

[madthatter]

In what context is niggers have big lips not racist ?

 

Use of the n word is. Saying they all look the same is.

 

Ani, the last points just aren't right.

 

Re. the first, I'm not going over this again -read my post above or look up the definition of racist.  Not sure how it qualifies.

 

Is saying all Jocks have freckles racist?

 

I'ts funny though how today even some useful science work, especially around biology and different 'races' (I'd prefer the term 'genetic variation based on ancestry and geography' myself, but I agree it's not so catchy) is scuppered or ignored for fear of racist overtones.

 

It's been proven that you are more likely to have health problems related to sodium intake if you are an African American as opposed to a white American.  Similarly northern Europeans bodies are quicker to heat after exposure to cold than African peoples'.   A lot of this type of work and knowledge would be very useful to the human race as a whole but due to misconceptions about what racism is and similar fears of offending, folk ignore it, don't publish it or are reluctant to undertake any research that relates in any way to race.

 

This is one of the reasons I have quite a strong view on this and get frustrated with out of proportion shock.  Not to mention how it belittles genuine cases of racism or discrimination.

Edited July 18, 2017 by madthatter

[Carlos]

You're a fucking loon. HTH.

[gonzo]

Ani, the last points just aren't right.

 

Re. the first, I'm not going over this again -read my post above or look up the definition of racist. Not sure how it qualifies.

 

Is saying all Jocks have freckles racist?

Without going over the same ground as its probably tiresome for some.

 

I think we can just agree your threshold for what is deemed racist is particularly lower than most people.

 

Is this correct?

[bolty58]

 

Is saying all Jocks have freckles racist?

 

 

Depends on who you ask. To some, using the word 'black' to describe the colour of coal is 'racist'.

 

It's basically become a catch all word for anything which makes the poor little souls feel remotely uncomfortable.

 

They are the real fucking loons.

Edited July 18, 2017 by bolty58

[enzo gambaro]

Ani, the last points just aren't right.

 

Re. the first, I'm not going over this again -read my post above or look up the definition of racist. Not sure how it qualifies.

 

There has to be some irony in having such a ridiculous debate with someone whose aviator is half black man/half gorilla. Edited July 18, 2017 by enzo gambaro

[bolty58]

There has to be some irony in having such a ridulous debate with someone whose aviator is half black man/half gorilla.

 

 

Shut it, wop 

[gonzo]

Depends on who you ask. To some, using the word 'black' to describe the colour of coal is 'racist'.

 

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Yes and the world black shouldn't be used in ba ba black sheep.

 

And they should ban peppa pig. Black boards too.