Politics

[athywhite1958]

Oh look, another bit of taxation for us to swallow

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Shopping bills are set to be driven up by a new "grocery tax" designed to accomplish the Government’s net zero targets.

According to the Government’s calculations, ministers have been accused of "quietly" passing legislation that will see as much as £56 added to household costs annually, reports The Telegraph.

[Cheese]

40 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Oh look, another bit of taxation for us to swallow

"

Shopping bills are set to be driven up by a new "grocery tax" designed to accomplish the Government’s net zero targets.

According to the Government’s calculations, ministers have been accused of "quietly" passing legislation that will see as much as £56 added to household costs annually, reports The Telegraph.

Wonder why you haven't posted a link to the GB News article you copied that quote from?

[Sweep]

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Wonder why you haven't posted a link to the GB News article you copied that quote from?

I always thought this was a Conservative policy....but don't let that get in the way of a bit of Labour bashing. Some people will just never get over the fact they won the 2024 GE

 

For what it's worth, I actually think this policy is a good thing

[athywhite1958]

19 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Wonder why you haven't posted a link to the GB News article you copied that quote from?

TBH i didn't even look who's news feed it was on, it was on the general news feed, I saw it, copied it and pasted it knowing it would send some scurrying to make the exact comments you have made, 

[Cheese]

7 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

TBH i didn't even look who's news feed it was on, it was on the general news feed, I saw it, copied it and pasted it knowing it would send some scurrying to make the exact comments you have made, 

Of course you did. 😉

[Spider]

1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said:

Oh look, another bit of taxation for us to swallow

"

Shopping bills are set to be driven up by a new "grocery tax" designed to accomplish the Government’s net zero targets.

According to the Government’s calculations, ministers have been accused of "quietly" passing legislation that will see as much as £56 added to household costs annually, reports The Telegraph.

I blame the opposition.

A poor opposition, unable to adequately challenge the government.

this is all on them.

[Nowack]

2 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

Oh look, another bit of taxation for us to swallow

"

Shopping bills are set to be driven up by a new "grocery tax" designed to accomplish the Government’s net zero targets.

According to the Government’s calculations, ministers have been accused of "quietly" passing legislation that will see as much as £56 added to household costs annually, reports The Telegraph.

If my shopping bill only goes up by less than a £1 a week I will be very happy. 

[kent_white]

3 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

Oh look, another bit of taxation for us to swallow

"

Shopping bills are set to be driven up by a new "grocery tax" designed to accomplish the Government’s net zero targets.

According to the Government’s calculations, ministers have been accused of "quietly" passing legislation that will see as much as £56 added to household costs annually, reports The Telegraph.

This could tip my finances over the edge! 😬

[London Wanderer]

55 minutes ago, kent_white said:

This could tip my finances over the edge! 😬

 

1 hour ago, Nowack said:

If my shopping bill only goes up by less than a £1 a week I will be very happy. 

😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 hours ago, Nowack said:

If my shopping bill only goes up by less than a £1 a week I will be very happy. 

Inflation will see to that.

Put the new taxes on top.

It's only ever a matter of pence on your bills.

Same with the winter payments.

Eventually those small amounts add up.

We've seen the pushback over renewable energy sources, (with a lot of misinformation thrown in) and the initial higher costs passed quickly onto customers.

Taxing fertiliser, packaging etc in the name of net zero, whilst aiming in the right direction, will have the opposite effect of taking the public with them. 

There are alternatives- biodegradable stuff- that should be being pushed, incentivised, and scaled up, ready for a cut off point somewhere in the future.

 

[only1swanny]

Wondered where all these stories came from.. must be GB news.

 

My dad told me last week that we're doubling rpad tax on cars like mine, can't actually find anything about it

[MancWanderer]

On 20/12/2024 at 23:10, Winchester White said:

However I don't think Labour have handled much well to be honest but it should be expected for a new government out of the picture for 14 years.

But the fact stands they haven't helped themselves at all and they need to get a lot better.

Is where I'm at. I didn't vote Labour (or Tories)

They are making a right porridge of things but they got voted in so I'll just sit and watch what happens. Some stuff will affect me, some won't. Same as Brexit. Fuck all I can do about it

Fwiw, and I know that it's an unpopular view, I reckon that Angela Rayner would be a better leader than Starmer. I think that she would make firmer decisions and be far more decisive (and divisive) than Starmer but that we'd see the true Labour Party under her watch

*think means that I have no evidence or links whatsoever btw 😁

[Cheese]

They're doing a lot more than most people realise, but going about it quietly. The media only tend to amplify right-wing outrage, which is usually about pretty inconsequential stuff.

[MancWanderer]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

They're doing a lot more than most people realise, but going about it quietly. The media only tend to amplify right-wing outrage, which is usually about pretty inconsequential stuff.

Aye. Same as ever but equally applies both sides imo. Tories in, left wing outrage. Labour in, right wing outrage. I just ignore it all and get on with my life. If something really outrages me I’ll talk to my MP which is what he/she/they are there for. I live a simple life

[Cheese]

13 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Aye. Same as ever but equally applies both sides imo. Tories in, left wing outrage. Labour in, right wing outrage. I just ignore it all and get on with my life. If something really outrages me I’ll talk to my MP which is what he/she/they are there for. I live a simple life

The difference being; Tories do things that benefit the rich, while Labour do things that benefit the ordinary.

[wanderer1984]

18 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Aye. Same as ever but equally applies both sides imo. Tories in, left wing outrage. Labour in, right wing outrage. I just ignore it all and get on with my life. If something really outrages me I’ll talk to my MP which is what he/she/they are there for. I live a simple life

Best way to be mate 👍🏻 

[MancWanderer]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

The difference being; Tories do things that benefit the rich, while Labour do things that benefit the ordinary.

Is an opinion that I’ll accept and that you are perfectly entitled to. Similarly, I’ll accept a contrary opinion from someone on the right (political) side of things. Opinions. Where would we be without them? 

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, kent_white said:

I was deliberating this last night. And hear me out.....

I think there's worse things that could happen. If it's in the national interest and Farrage is as much of a patriot as he claims to be - then working together to improve the situation in the country might not be a bad idea. 

Somehow - these two polarised sides are going to need to start working together for the common good or the country is going nowhere. 

Probably never happen in a million years of course. 

Much sense as usual. I am pretty sure that Mr. Farage made the approach to Starmers gang as soon as Trump was re-elected. If they accepted (as I believe that Lammy might have done to a certain extent) then fair play all round.

Mandelson is a huge mistake though. They will shut him out over there unless he is the most silver tongued bastard in the history of the world.

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, kent_white said:

I just think it was a prime minister who rightly had to clamp down on massive public disorder,  but chose to do it via the courts as opposed to your much favoured water cannon approach! 😁

...and the cattle prods. Don't forget the post dampening cattle prods.

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, Sweep said:

I always thought this was a Conservative policy....but don't let that get in the way of a bit of Labour bashing. Some people will just never get over the fact they won the 2024 GE

 

For what it's worth, I actually think this policy is a good thing

 Don't compare  we anti socialists to sad sack remoaners pal. We were already consoling ourselves the day after knowing that the tenure would be short. Disappointment at such a GE result very soon turns to 'well, let them suffer with what they voted for. It's the only way they'll learn'.

Only a question of how much damage and increased taxation/government size this shower of shit manage to screw you all with before the inevitable demise in 2029 (or hopefully much, much sooner).

"No new taxes for working people". Read it and weep.

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

Fwiw, and I know that it's an unpopular view, I reckon that Angela Rayner would be a better leader than Starmer. I think that she would make firmer decisions and be far more decisive (and divisive) than Starmer but that we'd see the true Labour Party under her watch

*think means that I have no evidence or links whatsoever btw 😁

Amazing how we can see things so differently. I think she's as thick as fucking mince and should be nowhere near the levers of power. I wouldn't even want her set loose if my fucking kitchen!

There is is only one leftie I can think of who might have the minerals to do a good job as PM. He is currently the mayor of Greater Manchester.

[bolty58]

42 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Is an opinion that I’ll accept and that you are perfectly entitled to. Similarly, I’ll accept a contrary opinion from someone on the right (political) side of things. Opinions. Where would we be without them? 

Which proves (if ever it were needed) that Cheese is the deluded cunt I always believed him to be.

Extreme socialist dogma from the 1930's still engrained in thick fuckers who would vote for a cow if it wore a red rosette.

[MancWanderer]

7 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Amazing how we can see things so differently. I think she's as thick as fucking mince and should be nowhere near the levers of power. I wouldn't even want her set loose if my fucking kitchen!

There is is only one leftie I can think of who might have the minerals to do a good job as PM. He is currently the mayor of Greater Manchester.

Haha. As ever, there’s stuff that we are completely at odds with to go alongside with where we are totally aligned

I like the cut of her jib. Folk had the same view of Maggie

[MancWanderer]

7 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Which proves (if ever it were needed) that Cheese is the deluded cunt I always believed him to be.

Extreme socialist dogma from the 1930's still engrained in thick fuckers who would vote for a cow if it wore a red rosette.

I’ll take Cheese’s ying with your yang and accept both as a view

 

[frank_spencer]

4 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Wondered where all these stories came from.. must be GB news.

 

My dad told me last week that we're doubling rpad tax on cars like mine, can't actually find anything about it

No such thing as road tax anyway. So double nothing is still nothing. 😁

As for Vehicle Excise Duty there's some changes coming next year.

https://www.gofor.co.uk/news/explaining-the-upcoming-changes-to-vehicle-excise-duty-rates#:~:text=The standard VED rates are,10 until 2029 to 2030