Politics

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Merseyside overspill. I bet they love a three word slogan there😅

Harsh. No one bothered when they were voting Labour. 

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Indeed. Probably just a coincidence that all their seats are in absolute shitholes. 

See above 👆 

[Winchester White]

I understand shit holes railing against the incumbent government, that always happens.

What isn't clear is what posh want in those areas crying out for people to work the fields and bring in the fruit and veg? They have ditched the Tories and gone for Comrade Nige

[ianofcleveleys]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

Anyroad

If reform can deliver on their promises, then they get a big thumbs up from me.

look what they’ve promised for Lancashire, my land:

“Reform now have 9 months to deliver what they promised for Lancashire County Council:

- No Council Tax rises.
- No Cuts.
- Zero Council Debt.
- No potholes.
- No officers paid over 100k.
- More money for all.”

My land too, I'll be watching with interest, especially after Nigel's salvo earlier about those with jobs in diversity or climate change needing to start looking for new ones. It'll be a lively few months ahead.

At least their local leader does have some experience of leading a council, their challenge will be how many new councillors they'll have who will be like fish out of water getting to grips with what they're now responsible for.

[mickbrown]

16 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Harsh. No one bothered when they were voting Labour. 

True. Cutting a swath through the shitholes of England. Could be Nige’s next ejection slogan

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

True. Cutting a swath through the shitholes of England. Could be Nige’s next ejection slogan

It's much like British fishermen voting for Brexit, and American farmers voting for Trump. Old cunts and thicko's cutting their own throats because they've been told to hate foreigners. Bring it on.

[BobyBrno]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

True. Cutting a swath through the shitholes of England. Could be Nige’s next ejection slogan

Labour exploited them for years. No one bothered then. 

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

It's much like British fishermen voting for Brexit, and American farmers voting for Trump. Old cunts and thicko's cutting their own throats because they've been told to hate foreigners. Bring it on.

Or poor people voting for Labour then realising they couldn’t give a shit about them. Broadest shoulders? Look at why Reform are so popular in the poorest areas. You may not like what you see. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

17 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

My land too, I'll be watching with interest, especially after Nigel's salvo earlier about those with jobs in diversity or climate change needing to start looking for new ones. It'll be a lively few months ahead.

At least their local leader does have some experience of leading a council, their challenge will be how many new councillors they'll have who will be like fish out of water getting to grips with what they're now responsible for.

An additional problem for LCC is that is going to be changed from its current guise.

Lots of staff changes, new roles, redundancies/redeployment etc.

Current councillors from LCC and ones from the districts can't agree on whether it is a good move or a bad one!

Watch this space.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

Or poor people voting for Labour then realising they couldn’t give a shit about them. Broadest shoulders? Look at why Reform are so popular in the poorest areas. You may not like what you see. 

Nothing to see, if you don't open your eyes.

 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

Or poor people voting for Labour then realising they couldn’t give a shit about them. Broadest shoulders? Look at why Reform are so popular in the poorest areas. You may not like what you see. 

What have Labour done to hurt poor people? And what are Reform going to do that helps them?

[Winchester White]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Or poor people voting for Labour then realising they couldn’t give a shit about them. Broadest shoulders? Look at why Reform are so popular in the poorest areas. You may not like what you see. 

To be fair, we have had 14 years of austerity and stagnation so folk wanted a change. The current government has found it very difficult to sort that out. I see no reason why Reform would also not find it just as difficult.

[London Wanderer]

39 minutes ago, Spider said:

Anyroad

If reform can deliver on their promises, then they get a big thumbs up from me.

look what they’ve promised for Lancashire, my land:

“Reform now have 9 months to deliver what they promised for Lancashire County Council:

- No Council Tax rises.
- No Cuts.
- Zero Council Debt.
- No potholes.
- No officers paid over 100k.
- More money for all.”

😂

Fckn loonies

& people fall for it. They could do it in 4 years time.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Bit like the loonies voting for the government?

Anyway, only Reform and the libdems currently have control over a council.

Conservative, Labour, Greens, independents don't have one between them.

A few still to be declared I think.

An astonishing day, whether folk like it or not.

[mickbrown]

13 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Or poor people voting for Labour then realising they couldn’t give a shit about them. Broadest shoulders? Look at why Reform are so popular in the poorest areas. You may not like what you see. 

Aye, because the privately educated, ex city banker really cares about the poor 😂😂

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Bit like the loonies voting for the government?

Anyway, only Reform and the libdems currently have control over a council.

Conservative, Labour, Greens, independents don't have one between them.

A few still to be declared I think.

An astonishing day, whether folk like it or not.

Labour still run my council

[frank_spencer]

17 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Or poor people voting for Labour then realising they couldn’t give a shit about them. Broadest shoulders? Look at why Reform are so popular in the poorest areas. You may not like what you see. 

Reform are great at pointing out flaws but so far have been lacking in detail as to how they plan to fix them.

Let's see if they can deliver on any of the proposals. Council budgets are a maze of multiple funding sources you can't just shift funds awarded by The Arts Council or Sport England to fill in potholes.

[wanderer1984]

25 minutes ago, Cheese said:

It's much like British fishermen voting for Brexit, and American farmers voting for Trump. Old cunts and thicko's cutting their own throats because they've been told to hate foreigners. Bring it on.

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

It's not that extraordinary.  It's just Tory voters switching to Reform.

 

 

If that was the case then tories would have pissed the last election. 

[Cheese]

[gonzo]

58 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Indeed. Probably just a coincidence that all their seats are in absolute shitholes. 

They've just won round here. Far from a shit hole and has been dyed in the wool tory land for decades.

Seems they've covered all bases.

It's what happens when the two main parties alienate their core electorate.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Jesus fucking Christ have far can folk be from reality.

Look at the maps.

Red wall areas, staunch labour voters, punting for Reform.

Some agricultural/rur areas, formerly Conservative voters, have voted for Reform, some for Lib Dems.

Conservatives have lost a huge number of councillors, but from a high base.

Labour have lost significant numbers from a low base.

Lib dems gained a lot, which often happens at local elections.

Labour barely have seat in Lancashire, which has a broad mix of wards.

Some huge rethinking required by the traditional big two. 

 

[Dimron]

18 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Aye, because the privately educated, ex city banker really cares about the poor 😂😂

I'm in Lincolnshire and watch the local news... so many justifying their reform vote by saying they need a change... so they vote an ex-Tory Whip as their Mayor... the mind boggles

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Jesus fucking Christ have far can folk be from reality.

Look at the maps.

Red wall areas, staunch labour voters, punting for Reform.

Some agricultural/rur areas, formerly Conservative voters, have voted for Reform, some for Lib Dems.

Conservatives have lost a huge number of councillors, but from a high base.

Labour have lost significant numbers from a low base.

Lib dems gained a lot, which often happens at local elections.

Labour barely have seat in Lancashire, which has a broad mix of wards.

Some huge rethinking required by the traditional big two. 

 

Nah its just old people and thicko racists.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

They've just won round here. Far from a shit hole and has been dyed in the wool tory land for decades.

Seems they've covered all bases.

It's what happens when the two main parties alienate their core electorate.

 

In fucking one.

Of course it's not unusual for locals to see the ruling party to get a bit of a hit- though not always (2021)- but this is something else entirely. 

Famous polster just explained that if these vote shares were transferred to a general election, then Reform would have an overall majority. 

If that doesn't sound alarm bells, then nothing will.