Politics

[Winchester White]

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

So then you should have an idea what they stand for. 
 

 

I do now, yes.

[ianofcleveleys]

41 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Reforms NHS ambitions are concerning, other than boats I know nothing else they stand for.

Inquiries into grooming gangs, though an unseemly cat fight has developed within their senior ranks about which / whose campaign to align with, which is detrimental to the cause in hand and unhelpful for the victims at the centre of it.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

I do now, yes.

That’s good. As an hour ago you didn’t. 

[Winchester White]

Just now, royal white said:

That’s good. As an hour ago you didn’t. 

Yes because I took the time to look which I imagine the vast majority of the voting public didn't bother to do.

[royal white]

Just now, Winchester White said:

Yes because I took the time to look which I imagine the vast majority of the voting public didn't bother to do.

Correct. Probably why Labour are in 👍

[Bertie]

These results are not a flash in the pan. Reform are now serious player whether people like it or not.  Two strong elections in 2 years.  No one should be critical of or patronise the folk who are voting for them. These are not just a few extremists, it’s 1000s of normal folk who have had enough.  The Tories are now in the wilderness, and the perception of Labour is that (so far) nothing has changed / got better.  Why should these results be a surprise? I can easily see Reform being the next majority government.  They’ve got the single biggest advantage of not having a past. They’ve not screwed up before so they’ve a clean slate in the eyes of the electorate wanting change.  The don’t need a manifesto. The worse thing the other parties can do is to continue to be complacent and assume folk will vote differently “when it matters”.

Now, do I want Farage as PM? No. Will he be? Probably. How can this be prevented? Labour need to deliver in the next 4 years, esp on “stopping the boats” and improving public services…..and be seen to deliver on these.  We have been warned.

Edited May 2, 2025 by Bertie

[Winchester White]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Correct. Probably why Labour are in 👍

I am not so sure. The Tories were appalling so any reasonably sensible opposition was going to win I think.

No wonder you defected to Reform 😉

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I am not so sure. The Tories were appalling so any reasonably sensible opposition was going to win I think.

No wonder you defected to Reform 😉

You’ve agreed with me. 😂 fuck what Labour stand for, anyone but the tories. 

[Winchester White]

5 minutes ago, Bertie said:

These results are not a flash in the pan. Reform are now serious player whether people like it or not.  Two strong elections in 2 years.  No one should be critical of or patronise the folk who are voting for them. These are not just a few extremists, it’s 1000s of normal folk who have had enough.  The Tories are now in the wilderness, and the perception of Labour is that (so far) nothing has changed / got better.  Why should these results be a surprise? I can easily see Reform being the next majority government.  They’ve got the single biggest advantage of not having a past. They’ve not screwed up before so they’ve a clean slate in the eyes of the electorate wanting change.  The don’t need a manifesto. The worse thing the other parties can do is to continue to be complacent and assume folk will vote differently “when it matters”.

Now, do I want Farage as PM? No. Will he be? Probably. How can this be prevented? Labour need to deliver in the next 4 years, esp on “stopping the boats” and improving public services…..and be seen to deliver on these.  We have been warned.

To be fair, they are trying to improve public services and the NHS is very slowly getting better.

The h

Whole stopping the boats thing is impossible to solve imo.

Well, until we all collectively agree to fuck off the agreed norms. That includes us and the rest of Europe.

[Dimron]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Our County Councillor is Conservative and you couldn't ask for a better or more hard-working representative. Even Mrs D who is staunch Labour voted for her. She was the only door stepper in the build up spending every weekend doing the rounds.

Result not called yet although the Council has gone massively Reform. I fear for her as it will be a sad loss if she doesn't get through

My girl Charlotte has managed to stay on... massive Reform slide, Cons only got one third of previous 2021 vote and Labour half.

Thankfully we have retained a bloody good Councillor despite the protest voting

 

[Winchester White]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

You’ve agreed with me. 😂 fuck what Labour stand for, anyone but the tories. 

Yeah I think that is what won them the election.

I don't get your emoji, I have voted blue more than any other party but Boris fucked it completely with Brexit, his appalling disregard for the HoC and they deserve the shit they are in.

I voted red last time because they are actually closer to a proper conservative ideology than the Tories became and still are.

Reform are led by the worst kind of populist wankers who just divide us, that isn't in the countries interest at all or in any way.

[bolty58]

58 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Summat about boats or summat

Belittle it Mick but it's working. Undeniable.

Some visionaries predicted this some while back.  All the wank insults '30p Lee' etc. have really worked eh? (that one not aimed at you sir).

[mickbrown]

18 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Belittle it Mick but it's working. Undeniable.

Some visionaries predicted this some while back.  All the wank insults '30p Lee' etc. have really worked eh? (that one not aimed at you sir).

Has he said once how he’d do it?

Until he does, he deserves belittling. 

[gonzo]

Up the thick old racists eh

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Up the thick old racists eh

That’s no way to talk about NICs parents. (Retired teachers if you didn’t know) 

[Spider]

28 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Belittle it Mick but it's working. Undeniable.

Some visionaries predicted this some while back.  All the wank insults '30p Lee' etc. have really worked eh? (that one not aimed at you sir).

I was hoping Bolty was here to run through all the brilliant reform policies.

But he’s let us all down again, favouring empty jibes.

The wait goes on.

[deeane Koontz]

@gonzo 🙂

 

 

[mickbrown]

56 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

To be fair, they are trying to improve public services and the NHS is very slowly getting better.

The h

Whole stopping the boats thing is impossible to solve imo.

Well, until we all collectively agree to fuck off the agreed norms. That includes us and the rest of Europe.

In one. 
 

Our Nige could take over tomorrow and the issues with the boats will be exactly the same. 

[Cheese]

45 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Belittle it Mick but it's working. Undeniable.

Some visionaries predicted this some while back.  All the wank insults '30p Lee' etc. have really worked eh? (that one not aimed at you sir).

Yes, bullshitting and propagandising their way to power so they can destroy the working class that elect them "is working". Marvellous stuff.

Edited May 2, 2025 by Cheese

[wanderer1984]

1 hour ago, Duck Egg said:

They're very popular amongst racist thickos which is reason enough for me to avoid em. 

What like @Not in Crawley parents?

You might know this ... His mummy & daddy were teachers

[wanderer1984]

24 minutes ago, royal white said:

That’s no way to talk about NICs parents. (Retired teachers if you didn’t know) 

Beat me to it 😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Duck Egg said:

They're very popular amongst racist thickos which is reason enough for me to avoid em. 

Are you talking about labour with their anti-semites?

Or the independents in Burnley with their sectarian beliefs?

Your post is ignorant, dismissive and precisely the reason why a new party is succeeding. 

Huge swathes of the former red wall have reacted to such accusations once and have done so again.

Well done on keeping up the blind rhetoric, and ensuring the red (and blue) groups disappear down the gurgler.

Yet it's everyone else who is thick. 🤔

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Are you talking about labour with their anti-semites?

Or the independents in Burnley with their sectarian beliefs?

Your post is ignorant, dismissive and precisely the reason why a new party is succeeding. 

Huge swathes of the former red wall have reacted to such accusations once and have done so again.

Well done on keeping up the blind rhetoric, and ensuring the red (and blue) groups disappear down the gurgler.

Yet it's everyone else who is thick. 🤔

Not all Reform voters are thick racists, but all thick racists are Reform voters.

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Not all Reform voters are thick racists, but all thick racists are Reform voters.

It wasn’t long ago all the thick racists voted Conservative, now it’s reform. But none of them voted for  Labour. You don’t half make some stupid comments. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

There's plenty of thick racists on the far-left fwiw