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Just now, Casino said:

Yes, that one

Ticks my boxes

I’ve been there ages. Honours the referendum gets us out of any federal EU projects if they ever really exist, but maintains trade and the economic benefits.

Sadly though we aren’t welcome in EFTA...I wonder why?

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10 minutes ago, Casino said:

I think Norway would support our membership

Would it solve the Irish border issue, I'm not sure

Not that there is an issue, obviously

Folk queuing up to demonstrate the easy technological solution

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/07/norwegian-politicians-reject-uks-norway-plus-brexit-plan

They don’t seem so keen....

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9 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

We seriously need to move on and quick 

I’ve been saying it a few months now but I’ll say it again, take the deal! 

I didn’t think I’d be singing off the same hymn sheet as JRM and Boris anytime soon 

 

 

Aye, it's tricky, taking a shite deal and chucking away 39 billion.

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4 minutes ago, leigh white said:

Aye, it's tricky, taking a shite deal and chucking away 39 billion.

For me, it’s better than no deal, I think that would cost us much more than £39bn (don’t forget we would still have to honour of financial obligations even with No deal) 

I’d obviously prefer to stay, but that ship sailed in 2016 

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5 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

For me, it’s better than no deal, I think that would cost us much more than £39bn (don’t forget we would still have to honour of financial obligations even with No deal) 

I’d obviously prefer to stay, but that ship sailed in 2016 

To be fair, iv'e gone past caring now. Folk are to set in for what they want and wont get and the miserable mess will just go down an endless road.

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Much as I despise the political elite and their "we know better than you" attitude, this 'survey' (which is what it is) into options which may win the support of a majority of the self serving twats should have been done immediately after the referendum. Would have saved years of acrimony if they'd have arrived at a conclusion whilst the scent of the Leave victory was still in the air and the arseholes would have been more inclined towards giving the majority what they voted for.

This will be Mays legacy. The failure to seek consensus in Parliament at the start of the process.

We would have been out in two days time with everything sorted, agreed and prepared for had this been done.

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5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Much as I despise the political elite and their "we know better than you" attitude, this 'survey' (which is what it is) into options which may win the support of a majority of the self serving twats should have been done immediately after the referendum. Would have saved years of acrimony if they'd have arrived at a conclusion whilst the scent of the Leave victory was still in the air and the arseholes would have been more inclined towards giving the majority what they voted for.

This will be Mays legacy. The failure to seek consensus in Parliament at the start of the process.

We would have been out in two days time with everything sorted, agreed and prepared for had this been done.

Any consensus that parliament could have decided on 2 1/2 years ago would be back tracked now, they sanctioned a no deal as the default position they’ve no intention of using it.

 I’m waiting to see what bullshit indicative vote passes a majority in Parliament this should be comedy gold. My guess is a people’s vote will be the outcome. 

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8 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

PC liberal claptrap - what does that mean? Does it mean people want it to be socially acceptable to be racist and homophobic? Is that it?

Because that isn’t happening anytime soon thankfully. 

An absence of liberal claptrap would be: 

* Living in a country where it doesn't require a journalist called Andrew Norfolk from The Times to bring to everyone's attention that Muslim gangs were raping and abusing under-age girls in places including Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford, Telford and others. It went on for years because the police, social workers and others did nothing about it because their PC sensibilities wouldn't allow them to see what was in front of them. To their credit subsequent Serious Case Reviews acknowledged that there'd been a squeamishness about acknowledging the fact that there was a unpleasant trend involving Muslim men. The horse had bolted then though. 

* Living in a country where you don't have to keep repeating virtue-signalling words like "multi-cultural", "diversity" and "inclusive" just to prove you're tolerant and courteous to other people.

* Living in a country where if you're a Roman Catholic like Jacob Rees Mogg and you have certain views on marriage, abortion etc - you're allowed to hold those view because 'tolerance' should apply to your views in just the same way as everybody else's even if they don't fit the liberal monoculture template.

* Living in a country where it is possible to say that footballers can sometimes be lazy or have a poor attitude. And if one of those lazy footballers is not white you should still be able to give your opinion objectively without the BBC and Garth Crooks jumping all over you and saying you're racist when actually all you're doing is saying you think an individual footballer is lazy and has a poor attitude. I used to think George Oghani was guilty of being lackadaisical. I'd never accuse Chris Fairclough of that. They're both black - I'm not a racist for saying what I think, Garth and doing so is a million miles away from making monkey noises to Raheem Sterling, which is  the epitome of racist.

* Where you can actually objectively discuss the immigration policy  of the day in any country without the ever present threat of someone (usually a haughty remainer) playing the race card so as to shut the debate down.

People have brains and they're allowed to use them. The hope is that they can use them to resist the brainwashing PC liberal claptrap described above. And that they are allowed to do so without being lectured to by people who have no right to put themselves on any kind of pedestal.

 

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8 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I’ve been there ages. Honours the referendum gets us out of any federal EU projects if they ever really exist, but maintains trade and the economic benefits.

Sadly though we aren’t welcome in EFTA...I wonder why?

Freedom of movement? ECJ?

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Why do people get worked up about the £39 billion?

If we pay it, I can't see it making any difference to my life

If we keep it, I can't see it making any difference to my life.

 

Just send it in bullion, we have £300billion worth, Cyclops gave more away

Either way, if we keep it, I don't see my share being put in the bank anytime soon. 

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2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Why do people get worked up about the £39 billion?

If we pay it, I can't see it making any difference to my life

If we keep it, I can't see it making any difference to my life.

 

Just send it in bullion, we have £300billion worth, Cyclops gave more away

Either way, if we keep it, I don't see my share being put in the bank anytime soon. 

We could do what people do in the Daily Mail and pay it in 1p's over the counter.

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9 hours ago, Salford Trotter said:

So what are we waiting for, let's leave ffs

Remain parliament, remain civil service, negotiated a WA that in effect was a lock in to the EU, ultimate aim is to reverse the will of the people and remain, good chance it’ll succeed now, but if it does the people will have the finally act of revenge and it will eventually set the country on a new and hopefully better path. 

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