Coronavirus

[London Wanderer]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Scrunity is healthy indeed, and definitely needed, though I didn't presume you are a Labour voter, I'd put you down for more of a Green party or Liberal 

Aye I edited that out in the end as I saw you hadn't presumed that. I've voted for all sorts since the age of 18 and found that party political choice just gets more toxic by the election. If anything- I hope this crisis brings us all a bit closer together- but only time will tell. Nice to see proper communities coming together the first time in decades. 

 

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

it's like when KA was in charge

plenty didn't want to hear criticism when he was here

and plenty of those same people didn't want to hear after he was gone, saying it was pointless and it's time to move on

anyway staunchly defending the government now will no doubt act the same way, and this will probably never go away completely, so when would be the best time to reflect on what's going on?

I'd say on an as you go basis, from day to day, week to week, as opposed to waiting to see how it pans out, that seems pointless to me

Completely agree mate. Let's remember we are learning from the past so we can prevent a second peak. After all, better decisions will be made if those who make them know they will be scrutinised. 

[Rudy]

7 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Getting excited before I opened that notification 

Not my cup of tea 

rather see Gail platt sunbathing

then again ...

 

That can be arranged 

[Rudy]

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Throw Maria in and i will pay 😁

Coz it’s Easter 

[London Wanderer]

57 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Yes, it’s the fault of the nasty tories

there, do you feel better now?

What will you do now that know?

 

Anyway, aren’t you happy now we have the world economy on its arse?

Just seen this bit has been edited in. 

FFS mate-  I've got best mates who've lost everything and can't make rent. I've got kids in my class whose families now need food parcels delivering. Spend most days worrying about elderly family members and a brother working on the frontline with a wee nephew soon to be born. 

Not looking for sympathy- we've all got shit going on and I'm definitely one of the lucky ones- but accusing me of somehow enjoying any of this- just because I criticised the government for a slow reaction- is a step below. 

Still love ya though x 

[Escobarp]

17 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Getting excited before I opened that notification 

Not my cup of tea 

rather see Gail platt sunbathing

then again ...

 

Don’t you dare 🤒

[Spider]

I’d be surprised if any government has got its response right.

Saw someone comparing us with Ireland earlier on twitter. We have dozens more densely populated cities than them plus a super metropolis in London. It’s just not fair to compare every country like for like.

plus, there’s really no point. Doesn’t change where we are.

I think we delayed a week or so too long if I’m honest, but not sure it would have made a massive difference.

 

[Rudy]

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Just dont tell the Ginger Grenade.

I’ve seen her along with a few Corrie stars including my favourite Eva 🤤in San Carlo after work

[miamiwhite]

13 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye I edited that out in the end as I saw you hadn't presumed that. I've voted for all sorts since the age of 18 and found that party political choice just gets more toxic by the election. If anything- I hope this crisis brings us all a bit closer together- but only time will tell. Nice to see proper communities coming together the first time in decades. 

 

Thank you pal, nice of you to acknowledge wasn't presuming you were a Red, hope Farrelli acknowledges it too after gatecrashing the party albeit very premature..... I certainly hope it brings us all closer together though I doubt it will politically to be honest as politics is too toxic now. Nice seeing communities pulling together though.

I'm actually not defending the government either, just very curious on how other parties would have dealt with it. We're in unchartered waters here and it would be an absolute nightmare for any party to try and call it correct from the outset.

[Rudy]

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’d be surprised if any government has got its response right.

Saw someone comparing us with Ireland earlier on twitter. We have dozens more densely populated cities than them plus a super metropolis in London. It’s just not fair to compare every country like for like.

plus, there’s really no point. Doesn’t change where we are.

I think we delayed a week or so too long if I’m honest, but not sure it would have made a massive difference.

 

London was alarming to me even after Boris told us to stay at home the underground was still packed 

[Jol_BWFC]

Does anyone known if the Italian and Spanish figures include non-hospital deaths eg care homes and in the community? I know the French now do (although they originally didn’t include them).

[mickbrown]

No scrutiny/criticism allowed chaps.
 

The Gang of Four have deemed we just have to accept what’s going on and get on with it. 

[London Wanderer]

21 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

 

It’s relentless and the usual suspects with a few new bods chucked in to replace the ones who have departed. 
 

so good I quoted you twice pal 

Like with anything in life- you open yourself up to scrutiny and feeback so you learn from things and make better informed decisions in the future. 

What could have happened if other scientists, the public and the WHO hadn't pressured the government over their initial herd immunity repsonse? 

What would have happened if the government hadn't been pressured  to support the self-employed more so they weren't choosing between income and being at home. 

Scrutinising these decisions and analysing them meant that successful U-turns could be made and I take my hat off to members of that cabinet that were bold enough to act on it. 

[Roger_Dubuis]

9 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Boris out of hospital, unfortunately for some he isn't in a body bag.

How long before he's back doing the Daily Briefings?

Half an hour before another 700+ Uk deaths  are announced taking the total well over 10,000   #managingthenews

I can't see Boris being in a rush to get back in front of the media, he was struggling with that well before he got the sniffles

[TroySwoosh]

[radcliffe white]

19 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Just dont tell the Ginger Grenade.

No tits 

no good 

[London Wanderer]

15 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Thank you pal, nice of you to acknowledge wasn't presuming you were a Red, hope Farrelli acknowledges it too after gatecrashing the party albeit very premature..... I certainly hope it brings us all closer together though I doubt it will politically to be honest as politics is too toxic now. Nice seeing communities pulling together though.

I'm actually not defending the government either, just very curious on how other parties would have dealt with it. We're in unchartered waters here and it would be an absolute nightmare for any party to try and call it correct from the outset.

I agree pal. And when people are worried, or even worse have lost loved ones and jobs - emotions can easily take over. We've all got to remember that it was going to be a nightmare scenario for anyone to handle. I certainly don't envy those in power. 

But we also need to balance that with scrutiny- otherwise we won't learn from it. I accept my posts might have seemed one-side because they lacked praise. But much of the evidence that we (along with some other nations) acted slowly is out there. All I ask is that we learn from those mistakes to prevent a second peak. 

Edited April 12, 2020 by London Wanderer

[Escobarp]

10 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

No scrutiny/criticism allowed chaps.
 

The Gang of Four have deemed we just have to accept what’s going on and get on with it. 

See you’re as much of a clown as always Michael. Even Easter  Sunday you don’t have a day off 

[Rudy]

10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Eva has the jugs, but that wagon wheel on her face somewhat lets her down.

She has a face?

[Guest Nordkurve]

47 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It wouldn't really be the NHS. It would be Public Health and the Government. 

And Public Health has been absolutely destroyed over the past decade.

You can blame Labour for that

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

They're also further ahead in the curve though aren't they? - I think most people would be surprised if we don't end up, sadly, posting similar numbers

Are you still adamant that we won't be seeing the kind of deaths that Italy and Spain are seeing?

And that is why we locked down later. Yes I’m very hopeful our deaths will be lower than Spain and Italy, how many times  you gonna keep asking me that question? For some reason you seem a little preoccupied with that comment. 

Edited April 12, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, Nordkurve said:

You can blame Labour for that

Not so sure. They got moved under the Council and then council budgets were shredded. They used to be a big department. Now it's about 3 people working in the town hall.

[miamiwhite]

17 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

No scrutiny/criticism allowed chaps.
 

The Gang of Four have deemed we just have to accept what’s going on and get on with it. 

Now now Mr Hedley, I've not once said the government are beyond scrutiny.

As you were 👍

[radcliffe white]

9 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Lets have a Tit off (Jugs, paps, boobs, knockers, bangrs), although i cant see anyone beating Kelly Brooks 😀

I’m thinking 

Lucy pinder👌

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

No shit Sherlock

I'm delighted he pulled through- but his experiences don't absolve him from complacency. In fact I would argue the fact he nearly died was evidence of this complacency. 

“I’m shaking hands continuously. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know. I continue to shake hands". - On the third March. Sound advice from our leader during a pandemic. I've said it twice and I'll say it again though- luckily we've got other members of that cabinet stepping up to the game when it matters. 

I'de say another WWays member answered your point on numbers in Spain, Italy and France. But- South Korea and Germany are clearly not the only countries with vastly different death rates. New Zealand, Finland, Japan- the list could go on. The evidence (IMO) shows that the countries that took the least risk have the lowest death rates. 
 

FFS New Zealand 2 islands with small population in the middle of nowhere and Finland’s populations nothing both with low density of population, Spain Italy France and U.K. are central hubs for world wide travel as is new York so it’s no wonder they are at the forefront of this virus. Think my initial observsation is correct it’s all about Boris for you. 

Edited April 12, 2020 by Mounts Kipper