Meanwhile in Ukraine

[gonzo]

Indeed. But we all know how it works.

Folk get enraged about emotive things and ignore billions spaffed elsewhere.

Find it strange that the normally Little Englander mob who crow about us ruling the waves and never backing down to anyone are all of sudden are against helping a fellow country out.

[Farrelli]

47 minutes ago, Zico said:

Same questions for Russians as well? 

I dunno, country was on its arse before all this started 

Apparently we've sent £12.8bn so far

The Tories spaffed £10-15bn on unused PPE 

It all depends on what putting less money in looks like

If any deal genuinely is good for Ukraine then great 

Just hope Europe doesn't stand back and allow them to get bummed by Trump and Putin 

We can’t afford to sit back. Russia is already engaged in a proxy war with the UK and other EU allies. You only have to listen to the MI5 bloke from a few months back. 

[Casino]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

The 64 billion dollar question is, if we do have to tip in more, where the fucks the money coming from?

 

well, we know where its going

[Sweep]

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

peace is on the horizon.

That might be stretching it a bit, I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced that either side is willing to back down and concede land.

 

Edited February 18, 2025 by Sweep

[Spider]

42 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Indeed. But we all know how it works.

Folk get enraged about emotive things and ignore billions spaffed elsewhere.

Find it strange that the normally Little Englander mob who crow about us ruling the waves and never backing down to anyone are all of sudden are against helping a fellow country out.

They tacitly support Putin because he’s a “strong leader”

As always, a much bigger picture exists but folk are concentrating on what makes them look best on Twitter 

[wakey]

All a bit woke this squatters' rights bollocks. Should be telling Putin's mob to fuck off back where they came from.

[Farrelli]

Trump is going to put us all in danger by pacifying Putin. He won’t care though. 

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, Zico said:

Just hope Europe doesn't stand back and allow them to get bummed by Trump and Putin 

...and what could these feeble fuckers do? Sanctions?  A new strongly worded treaty signed in some other obscure town with some nice 5 star hotels close by?

I am very sure Trump has no intention of 'bumming' Ukraine as you put it.

It will be sorted out. Blessed are the peacemakers.

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Find it strange that the normally Little Englander mob who crow about us ruling the waves and never backing down to anyone are all of sudden are against helping a fellow country out.

You mean on here? Feel free to start naming names because I'm struggling to think of one.

A 'fellow country'? Does that mean we should be intervening in South Sudan? Myanmar? All fellow countries.

Just for clarity, I have long expressed the hope that some of Putins pissed off oligarchs would bump him off. There is always hope. In the meantime The Don will stop the bloodshed and the waste.

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, Sweep said:

That might be stretching it a bit, I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced that either side is willing to back down and concede land.

 

"Might". Might not. The chances are infinitely better than when the UnDemocrats were leading the free world.

[bolty58]

50 minutes ago, wakey said:

All a bit woke this squatters' rights bollocks. Should be telling Putin's mob to fuck off back where they came from.

...and then the death and destruction continues. 

Squatters rights my arse. Just pure common sense. They won't be budged without some sort of shock and awe conflagration led by the US. In case you didn't get the memo, this is not on the agenda.

FFS don't place any faith in the Brussels bruisers. Putin will send the Bolshoi to sort that lot out.

[kent_white]

4 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

...and what could these feeble fuckers do? Sanctions?  A new strongly worded treaty signed in some other obscure town with some nice 5 star hotels close by?

I am very sure Trump has no intention of 'bumming' Ukraine as you put it.

It will be sorted out. Blessed are the peacemakers.

This deal could influence the whole of geopolitics for the next 50 years. 

He needs to get this bob on - or at least close to bob on. I'm just hoping he has some really talented advisors that will prevent him from tying us up in knots for the foreseeable future in the pursuit of a deal which makes him look successful in the short term - but causes mayhem further down the line. 

Much as I personally dislike the guy - I'm hoping he pulls an absolute rabbit out of the hat with this. 

If he can - then he'll really shut a few people up (myself included). If he doesn't - then we'll be living with the consequences for a long, long time. 

[Zico]

38 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

...and what could these feeble fuckers do?

 

[Sweep]

50 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

You mean on here? Feel free to start naming names because I'm struggling to think of one.

A 'fellow country'? Does that mean we should be intervening in South Sudan? Myanmar? All fellow countries.

Just for clarity, I have long expressed the hope that some of Putins pissed off oligarchs would bump him off. There is always hope. In the meantime The Don will stop the bloodshed and the waste.

I thought you were against people wanting/suggesting the assassination of folk?!!? 😉

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I thought you were against people wanting/suggesting the assassination of folk?!!? 😉

its definitely wanting that

not suggesting it might be for the greater good

definitely wanting

but hes known to be a hypocrite, so no surprise

[Casino]

oooops

hes probably fishing

[London Wanderer]

4 hours ago, Bertie said:

Impressive. You could definitely get a job ghost writing Trumpys social media accounts you know.

It was some post 😂

[Sweep]

46 minutes ago, kent_white said:

This deal could influence the whole of geopolitics for the next 50 years. 

He needs to get this bob on - or at least close to bob on. I'm just hoping he has some really talented advisors that will prevent him from tying us up in knots for the foreseeable future in the pursuit of a deal which makes him look successful in the short term - but causes mayhem further down the line. 

Much as I personally dislike the guy - I'm hoping he pulls an absolute rabbit out of the hat with this. 

If he can - then he'll really shut a few people up (myself included). If he doesn't - then we'll be living with the consequences for a long, long time. 

I hope he sorts it as well, but you're right, what happens next could "embolden" all sorts of places to try and claim what they see as rightfully theirs, especially if they know there is little or no comeback

Taiwan / Kashmir / Cyprus / Gibraltar / Kuril Islands / Falklands / Mellila   -  and I'm sure there are dozens of others that I've never heard of as well. 

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, wakey said:

All a bit woke this squatters' rights bollocks. Should be telling Putin's mob to fuck off back where they came from.

In a nutshell

Bolty & Royal rambling on about ‘peace talks’, ‘strong leadership’ and criticising Europe’s lack of action… it’s nonsense.

 There’s nothing special about these talks being arranged. & nothing has been achieved.

I hope I’m wrong for what it’s worth.

 Currently they’re just the first set of cronies to offer Putin the land he brutally stole.

Any European leader could have arranged these talks if they were willing to pander to Putin.

I get the arguments that Gonzo makes about funding etc. But we have to be very careful as a continent about appeasing Putin & how much land we give him. As the cost, destruction & electoral interference could be much more costly further down the line.

[Sweep]

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 

 There’s nothing special about these talks being arranged. & nothing has been achieved.

 

Remember when he was going to sort Kim Jong Un out, and force him to give up his Nuclear and Long Range missile testing. I'm not sure much actually happened, beyond them having a meeting did it? 

The plus is that he's apparently talking to Putin, but that doesn't mean all will be well in the short or even medium term. Ideally for Putin, this causes a split between the US and the EU, with the US withdrawing all assistance (which they would do in a heartbeat, if it wasn't for the wealth of minerals in Ukraine)

[Zico]

11 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I hope he sorts it as well, but you're right, what happens next could "embolden" all sorts of places to try and claim what they see as rightfully theirs, especially if they know there is little or no comeback

Taiwan / Kashmir / Cyprus / Gibraltar / Kuril Islands / Falklands / Mellila   -  and I'm sure there are dozens of others that I've never heard of as well. 

don't forget gaza

I have found it odd that Trump has spent his first month back about taking over places like Greenland and the Panama canal (and even Canada)

almost like someone has inspired him or been whispering in ear on how to make america great again

[Zico]

25 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I thought you were against people wanting/suggesting the assassination of folk?!!? 😉

you'll find similar fantasies regarding Nancy Pelosi if you care to look for them

[royal white]

16 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

In a nutshell

Bolty & Royal rambling on about ‘peace talks’, ‘strong leadership’ and criticising Europe’s lack of action… it’s nonsense.

 There’s nothing special about these talks being arranged. & nothing has been achieved.

I hope I’m wrong for what it’s worth.

 Currently they’re just the first set of cronies to offer Putin the land he brutally stole.

Any European leader could have arranged these talks if they were willing to pander to Putin.

I get the arguments that Gonzo makes about funding etc. But we have to be very careful as a continent about appeasing Putin & how much land we give him. As the cost, destruction & electoral interference could be much more costly further down the line.

You don’t half waffle some shite lad 😂😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

You don’t half waffle some shite lad 😂😂

Seems he has already decided the outcome of talks and motivations.

The biggest donor of weapons and money, by a long, long way.

Instrumental, together with Europe etc, in slapping a belligerent Russian down.

As you know, I believe it was the right thing to do, as it may have prepared the ground for a proper deal to end hostilities. 

If now is the time to utilise the position to achieve this then great stuff.

Time to give parties time to sort it out.

[royal white]

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Indeed. But we all know how it works.

Folk get enraged about emotive things and ignore billions spaffed elsewhere.

Find it strange that the normally Little Englander mob who crow about us ruling the waves and never backing down to anyone are all of sudden are against helping a fellow country out.

You’ll be giving London a run for his money soon.