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[jayjayoghani]

You're being a bit Cheese, councils do land deals all the time

[Alf Hartigan]

You're being a bit Cheese, councils do land deals all the time

Eh? Thought I just agreed that Bow Street would be best spot

[Smiffs]

An ambitious council drives an ambitious planning policy which should then naturally invite external investment.

 

Bolton drive it to becoming a commuter town attractive to fuck all but the the student pound and anyone wanting to get out of the place quickly.

 

When they make it next to impossible to build a town centre hotel but allow a super mosque to be built with fuck all consideration to the infrastructure you know they're cuckoo. They harp on about junction 4...a zillion square foot of distribution space 5 miles from the town centre. Great if you're a prostitute murdering wagon driver but fit for fuck all else.

[frank_spencer]

Big decisions should have been made 10-15 years ago. It's clear the town centre is too big but the council seemingly have no strategy and are not up to managing the evolution.

They had massive and impressive plans for the town centre.

A minor blip in the world's finances kinda put a dent in that.

Their apparent lack of plan since then is where the problems have really come from.

[frank_spencer]

An ambitious council drives an ambitious planning policy which should then naturally invite external investment.

 

Bolton drive it to becoming a commuter town attractive to fuck all but the the student pound and anyone wanting to get out of the place quickly.

 

When they make it next to impossible to build a town centre hotel but allow a super mosque to be built with fuck all consideration to the infrastructure you know they're cuckoo. They harp on about junction 4...a zillion square foot of distribution space 5 miles from the town centre. Great if you're a prostitute murdering wagon driver but fit for fuck all else.

There was supposed to be at least 4 new hotels before the recession.

 

As above the fucking about since then is what's costing the town

[Smiffs]

That global blip must have missed Bury Wigan and Warrington.

[DirtySanchez]

An ambitious council drives an ambitious planning policy which should then naturally invite external investment.

 

Bolton drive it to becoming a commuter town attractive to fuck all but the the student pound and anyone wanting to get out of the place quickly.

 

When they make it next to impossible to build a town centre hotel but allow a super mosque to be built with fuck all consideration to the infrastructure you know they're cuckoo. They harp on about junction 4...a zillion square foot of distribution space 5 miles from the town centre. Great if you're a prostitute murdering wagon driver but fit for fuck all else.

Have you not driven along the M62 of late? They are cropping up all over the place

 

There's even a big fucking haribo place now

[frank_spencer]

That global blip must have missed Bury Wigan and Warrington.

No idea of Warrington but the ball was rolling on Bury and Wiggin just before and as the recession hit.

[Alf Hartigan]

Bury is compact and thriving, Warrington is thriving in general not just town centre. (prospering from location) Wigan has got more empty shops than Bolton, last time I went half of the Galleries shopping centre was empty.

[DirtySanchez]

Wigan??

 

It can be done, Rotherham is decent around the centre now despite being in the shadow of Sheffield

[Smiffs]

That makes it appear like fuck all was built for 5 years which is far from the truth.

 

Those plans bolton council came up with, half a billion of other folks money building two big sites at Cutacre and Horwich, a bus station to get everyone out of town as quick as possible an office block next door to it, and a student village.

 

A private developer builds in the arches the market place.

 

Nothing of that merchants quarter.

 

The council have done fuck all but getting their crayons out and draw all over some plans hoping someone will build it for them. That's not ambitious it's playschool.

 

And to top it all off we've got that bent cunt Morris stating commercial landlords wanting a return on their property as being unrealistic. Fucking hell, they'll be beating down his door to redevelop Bolton coming out with shit like that.

[jayjayoghani]

Eh? Thought I just agreed that Bow Street would be best spot

Sorry, should do the quote function. reply to the previous post

[bolty58]

Smiffers is correct but no one really wants to say what the problem truly is. Who owns/runs all the pound shops? Who can rally its voters for council elections to be certain in whose hands control of development (and other things) will remain?

 

Not in their interest to let big developers modernise the town - they look after their voters. No megastores or brand name shops - just small traders flogging shite from third world countries suits them just fine and maintains the status quo.

 

Await all of the usual bollocks from apologists who do all of their shopping in Bury, The Trafford Centre or Manc and wouldn't even venture into the eyesore the town centre has become.

[gonzo]

Smiffers is correct but no one really wants to say what the problem truly is. Who owns/runs all the pound shops? Who can rally its voters for council elections to be certain in whose hands control of development (and other things) will remain?

 

Not in their interest to let big developers modernise the town - they look after their voters. No megastores or brand name shops - just small traders flogging shite from third world countries suits them just fine and maintains the status quo.

 

Await all of the usual bollocks from apologists who do all of their shopping in Bury, The Trafford Centre or Manc and wouldn't even venture into the eyesore the town centre has become.

Maybe those traders are the only ones prepared to open shops in the town centre?

 

If Harvey Nics and Hugo Boss wanted to open shops in Bolton, they'd open shops in Bolton.

[birch-chorley]

Smiffers is correct but no one really wants to say what the problem truly is. Who owns/runs all the pound shops? Who can rally its voters for council elections to be certain in whose hands control of development (and other things) will remain?

 

Not in their interest to let big developers modernise the town - they look after their voters. No megastores or brand name shops - just small traders flogging shite from third world countries suits them just fine and maintains the status quo.

 

Await all of the usual bollocks from apologists who do all of their shopping in Bury, The Trafford Centre or Manc and wouldn't even venture into the eyesore the town centre has become.

If your looking for a conspiracy then I think your barking up the wrong tree with this one. Most pound shops are huge organisations and not owned by Abdul from the local mosque....

 

Poundland (also 99p stores) was listed on the stock market but is now owned by Steinhoff who also own Bensons for Beds and Harvey's - I believe they are one of the biggest companies in the world globally (revenue) I'd guess many of us could own a piece of it via our pensions

 

Home Bargains is owned by TJ Morris (Tom Morris I believe), he's worth about £2b and sits 46th in the times rich list

 

Similar stories with all the other pound shops / discounters

 

Nothing to see here

[bolty58]

Maybe those traders are the only ones prepared to open shops in the town centre?

 

If Harvey Nics and Hugo Boss wanted to open shops in Bolton, they'd open shops in Bolton.

 

 

In those surroundings? You have to be fucking kidding?

 

Understandable if they choose The Rock instead.

[bolty58]

If your looking for a conspiracy 

 

Nope, not at all. Just a logical conclusion from results of council decisions.

 

Needs flattening and redeveloping and the redevelopers are out there.

 

Just no welcome mat being laid out for them.

[waffer cup 07]

The town centre's better than it was 2 or 3 years ago but still not great Anyone been to the Rock when its pouring down, nice shops poor design.

[tomski]

The rock is overrated. I gladly now prefer shopping in Bolton over Bury again.

[bolty58]

The town centre's better than it was 2 or 3 years ago but still not great 

 

I was there last June and it seemed to have deteriorated further to me in the 24 months since my previous visit.

[miamiwhite]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14982882.Pop_up_tent_city_to_appear_in_Bolton_for_homeless/

[Not in Crawley]

Home Bargains is ace. I'm not having a bad word said against that place.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14982882.Pop_up_tent_city_to_appear_in_Bolton_for_homeless/

In Morris' back garden?

[no balls]

In Morris' back garden?

I sniggered at that comment too

If he'd thought about housing folk from Bolton instead of chasing the gateway town cash local folk might not be struggling for housing

Edited December 22, 2016 by no balls

[Youri McAnespie]

Who'd have thought the dossers would have an unlikely champion in Nb?

 

Most of the tramps knocking about are from elsewhere, I've said it before and I'll say it again, give them all a good dousing with a water cannon, the ones with abodes will piss off home, the ones without will get exposure...Add some cheap Lynx showergel to the cannon's tanks and they'll all receive a much needed freshening up.

Edited December 22, 2016 by Youri McAnespie