Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 36 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Interesting interview re. Santos in BN today, the captaincy still not discussed yet seems telling. In the debate about what alternatives there are if its not Santos, I wonder if we'd possibly go and try to sign someone who's captaincy material this summer rather than give it someone else currently with us. Might be a positive thing to give it someone new to the team perhaps. I'd give it to Tommo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravel rash Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Just had a quick look on the Crawley fans forum, they speak very highly of the lad and are gutted to see him leave, understandably. We know what it is like when you’re at rock bottom and bigger fish come along to plunder your best assets (it’s not that long ago that the smallest of small fry, The Tits, were doing it to us). The thing with Crawley is they’ve just been promoted, don’t know the back story here🤷♂️. Anyway, if things carry on this way I may enjoy my first post Wembley smile. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 28 Members Share Posted June 28 11 minutes ago, Cheese said: I'd give it to Tommo. He's too rash imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 8 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He's too rash imo Exactly the spirit we need imo. It's not like he's snapping peoples' legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrotter Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 22 minutes ago, Cheese said: I'd give it to Tommo. I like Tommo and he’s still improving, but if we’re supposed to be improving as a team, he’s not guaranteed a start. Still expecting at least a couple more to come in midfield, more if Morley moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 41 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Guess we'll see if he has a change of heart and formation- he has done it before- but I can't see it. At least some flexibility maybe. Flexibility and willingness to change the system for the circumstances is key to our progression IMO and Iles suggested that there may be change in the air although I don't know if that was Iles' wishful thinking or something Evatt actually said. Didn't elaborate on the comment. Having players like Collins and the Greek lad in our team does at least give us the option to be flexible in our approach though so I'm taking it as a good sign and there may be more incoming before the window is out. But I can't envisage big change like starting 442 for example as I suspect Evatt won't be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 17 hours ago, Rizlar said: I thought Ashworth was decent better than Ogbeta and Williams. Gone to Blackpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zog1 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 If IE plays the same structure and formation we played last season we need (in order of most important): High tempo DM Creative attacking midfielder (free kick specialist?) A better right wing-back, Cogley did better than anyone of us expected but think we need someone to take us to that next level Competition for Williams As good as they might end up being i can't be convinced that signing L1 and L2 players will get us to where we claim we want to be. That leaves 3 options, high wage freebies, disgruntled championship players and Premier League loans. Been ok with the recent signings as good bench, injury cover and competition, i think they'll do a great job at that, but we're crying out for someone of that next level now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrested development Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Wiki has lolos listed at 6ft 2 but he looks bigger in the highlights I've seen. Looking forward to seeing him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 2 hours ago, Marc505 said: Interesting interview re. Santos in BN today, the captaincy still not discussed yet seems telling. In the debate about what alternatives there are if its not Santos, I wonder if we'd possibly go and try to sign someone who's captaincy material this summer rather than give it someone else currently with us. Might be a positive thing to give it someone new to the team perhaps. 100% agree with this thought. Yeah, we need forwards, defenders, wide men etc but the area of central midfield is where we need strengthening most. Our midfield was deficient against teams with more nous and physicality and this would be, imo, our most important signing of the summer. A leader, mentally strong, would motivate the rest of them, who might still (like me) be suffering from the Wembley hangover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 hours ago, Marc505 said: Interesting interview re. Santos in BN today, the captaincy still not discussed yet seems telling. In the debate about what alternatives there are if its not Santos, I wonder if we'd possibly go and try to sign someone who's captaincy material this summer rather than give it someone else currently with us. Might be a positive thing to give it someone new to the team perhaps. Sheehan. Good enough to captain the Welsh national team, guaranteed starter, calm, and can read the game from back to front in his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebells Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 45 minutes ago, Zog1 said: If IE plays the same structure and formation we played last season we need (in order of most important): High tempo DM Creative attacking midfielder (free kick specialist?) A better right wing-back, Cogley did better than anyone of us expected but think we need someone to take us to that next level Competition for Williams As good as they might end up being i can't be convinced that signing L1 and L2 players will get us to where we claim we want to be. That leaves 3 options, high wage freebies, disgruntled championship players and Premier League loans. Been ok with the recent signings as good bench, injury cover and competition, i think they'll do a great job at that, but we're crying out for someone of that next level now. It's clear from the 3 signings what the club's policy is (and it has been this way for 3 years now). It also doesn't take a genius to say that this squad now needs some freshness to help move on from last season. These lads are the exact profile of enthusiastic and ambitious players we need. I'd much rather a young, aspirational League 1/2 player than a 'disgruntled' Championship player. To say these lads are ok as bench / competition / injury cover is unfair. Unless you are an afficionado of League one and two football, you can't possibly know how good they are / will become. I'm not, so will wait and see - we signed Ricardo Santos from Amazon and he's turned out ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 28 Members Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Cheese said: Exactly the spirit we need imo. It's not like he's snapping peoples' legs. Most of his yellows are out of being too late and unnecessary How many games did he miss because of suspension? Not captain material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRiddle Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Toal for me, pretty much guaranteed a start, seems vocal, and puts in a shift. His rise has been pretty spectacular given where he came from and has slotted in so well. Just wished he'd been played on the right much more which he clearly prefers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 Just now, DirtySanchez said: Most of his yellows are out of being too late and unnecessary How many games did he miss because of suspension? Not captain material Who would you pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 28 Members Share Posted June 28 Just now, Cheese said: Who would you pick? Sheehan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, JimmyRiddle said: Toal for me, pretty much guaranteed a start, seems vocal, and puts in a shift. His rise has been pretty spectacular given where he came from and has slotted in so well. Just wished he'd been played on the right much more which he clearly prefers. Good shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 28 Members Share Posted June 28 Just now, Cheese said: Who would you pick? Or Toal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.cramp Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Most of his yellows are out of being too late and unnecessary How many games did he miss because of suspension? Not captain material But he already leads the chats in the huddle before a game. But yeah maybe a tad young. Who knows, this could be the thing to make him cut out the no need tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Sheehan As influencial as he is on the general flow of a game (which is a bit hit and miss anyway), I don't think he's Captain material. He influences games with his feet, rather than his voice. Edited June 28 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 28 Members Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, Cheese said: As influencial as he is on the general flow of a game (which is a bit hit and miss anyway), I don't think he's Captain material. He changes games with his distribution, rather than his voice. He captained albeit a weakened Wales team Maybe there's more to being a captain than shouting at people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: He captained albeit a weakened Wales team Maybe there's more to being a captain than shouting at people A good point. I just think we need more aggression at the heart of the team, and George Thomasson has got that. Not saying he's ideal, as he's got a lot to learn, but he's getting better year on year. Santos usually looks a bit lost after we concede, while George tries to fire everyone up again. Edited June 28 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: As influencial as he is on the general flow of a game (which is a bit hit and miss anyway), I don't think he's Captain material. He influences games with his feet, rather than his voice. He’s definitely not quiet on the pitch, but goes about it a calm, considered manner, rather than the screaming and gesticulating that Thomason may fall into. The Welsh manager was comfortable enough to give him the job; albeit for a single match, while others were away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted June 28 Members Share Posted June 28 2 hours ago, Marc505 said: Interesting interview re. Santos in BN today, the captaincy still not discussed yet seems telling. In the debate about what alternatives there are if its not Santos, I wonder if we'd possibly go and try to sign someone who's captaincy material this summer rather than give it someone else currently with us. Might be a positive thing to give it someone new to the team perhaps. We need a statement from the club on this. it's simply not acceptable and insulting to the fans who have shelled out for season tickets. What about those still undecided on buying a season ticket too?? We deserve better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, Rival Son said: He’s definitely not quiet on the pitch, but goes about it a calm, considered manner, rather than the screaming and gesticulating that Thomason may fall into. The Welsh manager was comfortable enough to give him the job; albeit for a single match, while others were away. Aye, we all see things differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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