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7 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

All good points.  Iredale may have played some games at LWB for Cambridge but he's played games at CB for us and it makes him versatile and a good player to have in the squad, but he'll never be 1st choice at either CB or LWB under IE despite being one of our few leaders and having more physicality than most.

Agreed.

He was clearly brought in as he was playing the two positions for Cambridge that Evatt was looking for.

I don't think he's turned out to be a lwb in the way that IE thought he would, but he's fine at centre back.

Certainly appears more of a centre half or proper full back, but IE saw something different. 

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4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

I like iredale yes makes the odd error but he can put a tackle in not fanny out like Williams

 

Aye.

Fwiw, I reckon finding someone to fulfil a wing back role to a decent level is really difficult. 

I also reckon it's vital to have a midfielder inside who can cover/support as necessary.

Asking a wing back to be the width provider, put in crosses, defend and get up and down all game must put a lot of strain on them.

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55 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Did you read the full article?

The bit where it said he'd played at lwb, and left centre back for the season before we signed him?

Yes 

Did you read the one I posted with direct quotes from IE in relation to him playing LWB:

We haven’t worked too much on him in training on that position. We’ve kept him at left centre-back and asked him to look and observe the left wing-back role and try and pick it up and I think he’ll get better with it.

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3 minutes ago, Zico said:

Yes 

Did you read the one I posted with direct quotes from IE in relation to him playing LWB:

We haven’t worked too much on him in training on that position. We’ve kept him at left centre-back and asked him to look and observe the left wing-back role and try and pick it up and I think he’ll get better with it.

Quite.

Therefore not brought in as a full back. IE was aware he was playing both roles, but wanted him to learn more of it with us. 

Upon signing, there was a clip somewhere of him smacking in a long range effort for Cambridge whilst playing in these roles. 

He wasn't playing at left back before he came, and wasn't brought in to play there.

 

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11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Asking a wing back to be the width provider, put in crosses, defend and get up and down all game must put a lot of strain on them.

LWB seems a real issue.  John started OK  since then we've had Iredale, Williams, Ogbeta and Ashworth plus Beck and Jackson. None have been able to do all of the above.

Bradley, Fossey and Kioso (in that order) were all great at RWB and well spotted by the club, with Cogley decent. So it can be done at our level.

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34 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye.

Fwiw, I reckon finding someone to fulfil a wing back role to a decent level is really difficult. 

I also reckon it's vital to have a midfielder inside who can cover/support as necessary.

Asking a wing back to be the width provider, put in crosses, defend and get up and down all game must put a lot of strain on them.

All of that is correct. but it does beg the question: is it worth persisting with?

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27 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

LWB seems a real issue.  John started OK  since then we've had Iredale, Williams, Ogbeta and Ashworth plus Beck and Jackson. None have been able to do all of the above.

Bradley, Fossey and Kioso (in that order) were all great at RWB and well spotted by the club, with Cogley decent. So it can be done at our level.

So is it that it' a thankless task ?

Put in the distance, able to tackle, cross, overlap and fast..

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1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

All good points.  Iredale may have played some games at LWB for Cambridge but he's played games at CB for us and it makes him versatile and a good player to have in the squad, but he'll never be 1st choice at either CB or LWB under IE despite being one of our few leaders and having more physicality than most.

Jack (of all trades, master of none) Iredale

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3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Quite.

Therefore not brought in as a full back. IE was aware he was playing both roles, but wanted him to learn more of it with us. 

Upon signing, there was a clip somewhere of him smacking in a long range effort for Cambridge whilst playing in these roles. 

He wasn't playing at left back before he came, and wasn't brought in to play there.

 

Iredale was an attacking full back, not a wing back.

There's a difference.

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Well, statements r us going on in today's BEN.   If we could all take 5 minutes to read and digest,  everybody happy, sincey, tomski, lusty at the back.   Good, now can we move on ?  

Onwards and upwards , what's done is done and gone, now class can we all set 1st July as a clean slate, reset and back us or back out.  

In the words of pete hooten,  altogether now !   

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21 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

Well, statements r us going on in today's BEN.   If we could all take 5 minutes to read and digest,  everybody happy, sincey, tomski, lusty at the back.   Good, now can we move on ?  

Onwards and upwards , what's done is done and gone, now class can we all set 1st July as a clean slate, reset and back us or back out.  

In the words of pete hooten,  altogether now !   

Weird isn't it, people return to work, then start doing some work. It will never catch on!

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2 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Sounds like he's more of a Collins type rather than Maghoma. Maybe we're aiming to be able to go 4-3-3 in some games this season.

No idea, let's see what the kid has in his locker

Just from those clips he looks more like Collins, big improvement on one or two we currently have

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Lolos played for our youth set up and people were surprised he was let go particularly after a FA YC win against Man City where he was stand out player bulldozing their defence on the break

Glad to see he’s making a career for himself in the game.

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31 minutes ago, green genie said:

Lolos played for our youth set up and people were surprised he was let go particularly after a FA YC win against Man City where he was stand out player bulldozing their defence on the break

Glad to see he’s making a career for himself in the game.

Have we had your views on Mr Rooney yet?

I never saw that coming.

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Interesting interview re. Santos in BN today, the captaincy still not discussed yet seems telling.

In the debate about what alternatives there are if its not Santos, I wonder if we'd possibly go and try to sign someone who's captaincy material this summer rather than give it someone else currently with us. Might be a positive thing to give it someone new to the team perhaps.

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13 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

All of that is correct. but it does beg the question: is it worth persisting with?

Unless he's got a special iron in the fire, then for me, no.

Guess we'll see if he has a change of heart and formation- he has done it before- but I can't see it.

At least some flexibility maybe.

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