Politics

[Nowack]

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

Meltdown? Done more to help foreigners settle and contribute in UK then you ever have pal 👍🏻

Buying a kebab or pizza on a Friday night doesn't count.

[wanderer1984]

13 minutes ago, Nowack said:

Buying a kebab or pizza on a Friday night doesn't count.

What about a Saturday?

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

Meltdown? Done more to help foreigners settle and contribute in UK then you ever have pal 👍🏻

You trying to start a woke off pal ?

 “I’ve helped more people than you” 😂

You’re forgetting I’m the snowflake that worked in a refugee centre. 
 

Wasnt too long ago you were posting videos about a foreign invasion & erosion of the native British race.

But I forgot you’ve helped some Ukrainians, so I take it all back 😄👍

Edited December 15, 2024 by London Wanderer

[Spider]

On 20/11/2024 at 19:38, wanderer1984 said:

Quite the opposite ... Far right and all that 🙄

 

 

I don’t think you realise how lucky we are here in the UK.

Waffling on about Poland.

You need to just get on with it rather than worrying about other countries.

We’re dead lucky here.

Remember? 🥰

[wanderer1984]

55 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You trying to start a woke off pal ?

 “I’ve helped more people than you” 😂

You’re forgetting I’m the snowflake that worked in a refugee centre. 
 

Wasnt too long ago you were posting videos about a foreign invasion & erosion of the native British race.

But I forgot you’ve helped some Ukrainians, so I take it all back 😄👍

It was you that mentioned foreigners in UK ... Yet I'm probably the only one on here whos helped and taken people in.

Unbelievable gesture for a racist nutjob to do 😊

Well done on your stint wherever it was ... brave thing to do 👍🏻

[wanderer1984]

33 minutes ago, Spider said:

I don’t think you realise how lucky we are here in the UK.

Waffling on about Poland.

You need to just get on with it rather than worrying about other countries.

We’re dead lucky here.

Remember? 🥰

Why would I worry about Poland? .... its doing a fantastic job and seems to be run superbly.

Indeed ... We're very lucky. You remember that and tell yourself that when you next get upset.  

[Cheese]

52 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

It was you that mentioned foreigners in UK ... Yet I'm probably the only one on here whos helped and taken people in.

Unbelievable gesture for a racist nutjob to do 😊

Well done on your stint wherever it was ... brave thing to do 👍🏻

Didn't you boot them out after a couple of months because they were too much hassle?

[wanderer1984]

38 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Didn't you boot them out after a couple of months because they were too much hassle?

Feel free to look back in Ukraine thread about what happened ... was quite open about it all 👍🏻

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Feel free to look back in Ukraine thread about what happened ... was quite open about it all 👍🏻

I can't be arsed, but thanks for the offer. 👍

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

It was you that mentioned foreigners in UK ... Yet I'm probably the only one on here whos helped and taken people in.

Unbelievable gesture for a racist nutjob to do 😊

Well done on your stint wherever it was ... brave thing to do 👍🏻

Brave 😂 not the word I’d use.

Nobody called you a racist nutjob pal 💙Only yourself.

And nah, you’re not the only one. 

[Winchester White]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Didn't you boot them out after a couple of months because they were too much hassle?

To be fair, I think he gave them a fair crack of the whip and it just didn't work out.

I give him kudos for trying though despite our different political leanings.

[bolty58]

I don't know why you engage with some of these clowns '84. Seems they must all have some skeletons in the cupboard regarding racism the way they over compensate.

[London Wanderer]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I don't know why you engage with some of these clowns '84. Seems they must all have some skeletons in the cupboard regarding racism the way they over compensate.

Bolty’s theories are something else 😂

[Spider]

13 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Why would I worry about Poland? .... its doing a fantastic job and seems to be run superbly.

Indeed ... We're very lucky. You remember that and tell yourself that when you next get upset.  

Very lucky to have a government that cares.

See, you’re getting it now.

[royal white]

13 hours ago, Spider said:

I don’t think you realise how lucky we are here in the UK.

Waffling on about Poland.

You need to just get on with it rather than worrying about other countries.

We’re dead lucky here.

Remember? 🥰

So can we finally put to bed that Brexit was the reason Poles returned home? 

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

So can we finally put to bed that Brexit was the reason Poles returned home? 

They all went back and now it’s doing well.

looks like we needed them after all 😉

[Mounts Kipper]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0xz4938z9o
 

Not impressed with this decision. 

[Winchester White]

12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0xz4938z9o
 

Not impressed with this decision. 

I would have put you down as supportive of improving the efficiency of local authorities?

I suppose it does depend on how diluted local input becomes though.

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I would have put you down as supportive of improving the efficiency of local authorities?

I suppose it does depend on how diluted local input becomes though.

I would be but sadly I can’t see larger councils delivering efficiency or improving on what district councils already deliver…already many of the large councils such as Birmingham are basically bankrupt add to that I’m anti mayors as they have too much power. It’s a retrograde step in my eyes. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I would be but sadly I can’t see larger councils delivering efficiency or improving on what district councils already deliver…already many of the large councils such as Birmingham are basically bankrupt add to that I’m anti mayors as they have too much power. It’s a retrograde step in my eyes. 

There is only so far you can take the "economies of scale" argument over mergers, whether in the public or private sectors.

From my own experience; the main issues are inherent inefficiencies within organisations.

Old fashioned attitudes of some workers, and arguably too many layers. 

As we've seen with the rail chaps, sorting this isn't easy.

There is also the contradictory approach: saying more devolution to areas is the way forward, doesn't fit right with merging them together.

As ever, if it happens, then the proof will out.

 

[kent_white]

19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

There is only so far you can take the "economies of scale" argument over mergers, whether in the public or private sectors.

From my own experience; the main issues are inherent inefficiencies within organisations.

Old fashioned attitudes of some workers, and arguably too many layers. 

As we've seen with the rail chaps, sorting this isn't easy.

There is also the contradictory approach: saying more devolution to areas is the way forward, doesn't fit right with merging them together.

As ever, if it happens, then the proof will out.

 

I think Bolton should be alright as it's a Met council and not a District one isn't it?

I agree with your point though. It's happened with the NHS. Up until about 3 years ago - Bolton had it's own CCG which was rated excellent and was financially solvent. 

They merged into a larger GM ICB and now the larger organisation is struggling and is 600 million in the red, essentially at launch. 

[tomski]

Bolton council is far from skint I’m led to believe. Think it lends other councils quite a bit of dough including Manchester and Liverpool. Spending nothing on the town has probably helped too😂

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0xz4938z9o
 

Not impressed with this decision. 

If it gets stuff done quicker, then I'm all for it.......it does smack of cost cutting above anything else though

[Traf]

57 minutes ago, Sweep said:

If it gets stuff done quicker, then I'm all for it.......it does smack of cost cutting above anything else though

Costs need cutting, the country's on its arse.

[Sweep]

8 minutes ago, Traf said:

Costs need cutting, the country's on its arse.

I don't disagree at all