Retain/Release?

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

Might as well fuck him off, evatt spent most the season looking to play anyone but him

Can see why

[radcliffe white]

10 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

All loan players not good enough for a second term (obviously not talking about Traff and Bradley) 

why did we sign Cameron? Pity we couldn’t offload him as well

The guys finished but we’ve ended up with him on a 18 month deal madness 

[paulhanley]

5 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Joel Dixon - has few fans but still need a decent 2nd choice - Release

MJ Williams - Versatile but we need better  - Release

Kieran Lee - love him but too injury prone this season - Release

Josh Sheehan  - shown flashes of quality but not a Champ player,  can do a job at this level - New contract

George Thomason  - Evatt likes him but he's not in the starting line up - Keep on the hope he gets better.

Lloyd Isgrove -  great servant but time to move on. - Release

Elias Kachunga - I like him (ducks) but when we signed him we had to wait for him to lower his wage demands so expensive.  New contract on less money.

Jon Dadi Bodvarsson - when fit he gives us another dimension - New contract.

 

That frees up 4 places plus the returning loans.  10 news players needed on the assumption that Sads is going to be moved on.

Thomason isn't out of contract and I'd keep the lad anyway. Declan John is also out of contract - I'd release him.

Other than that I am releasing all of them. I hesitated over Sheehan but as you say he's not Championship quality. We need to raise the bar.

That means we require: 

• Two new goalkeepers - don't mind one being on loan but one has to have a proper proven track record. A Keith Branagan style signing please.
• A new RWB - and he'll have to be a class act to match Bradley.
• A new central defender to replace Aimson/Mbete.  We've Toal, Santos, Johnston, Gethin and Iredale but the latter two also have wing-back duties and we need to be careful not to spread too thinly. Aimson left a gap that needs filling and preferably a quality signing that upgrades us rather than marks time.
• Two new midfielders - both with physique, one with good experience the other a prospect signing along the lines of Toal/Morley. We've got to stop being bullied in the middle of the park. 
• One new striker - Charles, Adeboyejo and Jerome are all on the books but this new one needs to better all four and we need to spend come good cash to acquire him. A second striker signed as a prospect may be a good idea too - provided they don't want to promote Connor Carty.

I'm not saying we need a new LWB given we have R Williams and Iredale on the books already. 

[Tombwfc]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

That wanker john isnt on the list, which is understandable

Utterly forgettable

No doubt hes a player, i loved watcching him and could understand he wasnt happy to go behind iredale, but fucking off down the tunnel at 90 last night spoke volumes

Just fuck off with your petulance

Twat

 

I didn't see it, so I don't know. But is there no mitigation here for the fact that it was amidst a pitch invasion? 

[Casino]

We are not getting 5 championship centre backs

3 is a stretch

So why do our midfielders need to be champ quality

[Casino]

Just now, Tombwfc said:

 

I didn't see it, so I don't know. But is there no mitigation here for the fact that it was amidst a pitch invasion? 

I think you needed to see it

It looked dreadful

He was actually furthest from their fans unlike bradley and traf

[Lostock Whites]

9 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Thomason isn't out of contract and I'd keep the lad anyway. Declan John is also out of contract - I'd release him.

Other than that I am releasing all of them. I hesitated over Sheehan but as you say he's not Championship quality. We need to raise the bar.

That means we require: 

• Two new goalkeepers - don't mind one being on loan but one has to have a proper proven track record. A Keith Branagan style signing please.
• A new RWB - and he'll have to be a class act to match Bradley.
• A new central defender to replace Aimson/Mbete.  We've Toal, Santos, Johnston, Gethin and Iredale but the latter two also have wing-back duties and we need to be careful not to spread too thinly. Aimson left a gap that needs filling and preferably a quality signing that upgrades us rather than marks time.
• Two new midfielders - both with physique, one with good experience the other a prospect signing along the lines of Toal/Morley. We've got to stop being bullied in the middle of the park. 
• One new striker - Charles, Adeboyejo and Jerome are all on the books but this new one needs to better all four and we need to spend come good cash to acquire him. A second striker signed as a prospect may be a good idea too - provided they don't want to promote Connor Carty.

I'm not saying we need a new LWB given we have R Williams and Iredale on the books already. 

The thing I don't like about our formation is that it plays such an importance on our wing backs, where 4 of the back formations have both the threat of the full backs and wingers.

If a team nullifies our full backs then we essentially lose our ability to win matches.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Lostock Whites

[Zico]

10 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Thomason isn't out of contract and I'd keep the lad anyway. Declan John is also out of contract - I'd release him.

Other than that I am releasing all of them. I hesitated over Sheehan but as you say he's not Championship quality. We need to raise the bar.

That means we require: 

• Two new goalkeepers - don't mind one being on loan but one has to have a proper proven track record. A Keith Branagan style signing please.
• A new RWB - and he'll have to be a class act to match Bradley.
• A new central defender to replace Aimson/Mbete.  We've Toal, Santos, Johnston, Gethin and Iredale but the latter two also have wing-back duties and we need to be careful not to spread too thinly. Aimson left a gap that needs filling and preferably a quality signing that upgrades us rather than marks time.
• Two new midfielders - both with physique, one with good experience the other a prospect signing along the lines of Toal/Morley. We've got to stop being bullied in the middle of the park. 
• One new striker - Charles, Adeboyejo and Jerome are all on the books but this new one needs to better all four and we need to spend come good cash to acquire him. A second striker signed as a prospect may be a good idea too - provided they don't want to promote Connor Carty.

I'm not saying we need a new LWB given we have R Williams and Iredale on the books already. 

John still has one year left 

Not sure we can attract decent championship midfielders when in league one without spending on if not a reasonable transfer fee then at least decent wages

[THOMASON]

Thomason's contract ends 2025

[Whitesince63]

2 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

The guys finished but we’ve ended up with him on a 18 month deal madness 

Doesn’t mean we can’t move him on just because he’s under contract. Either pay it up or see if he can find another club if he wants to continue playing. Of the out of contract I’d only keep Sheehan, Bod and Lee sadly can’t do another 46 game season plus cup games and if we seriously want promotion we need fit players every week. As for incomings I can’t see better than Cole Stockton since we didn’t go up.

[tomski]

Squad overhauls are messy and we take a long time to transition under Evatt. Does feel needed. No one I desperately want out or keep in the lists at the mo. I suspect a fair fee will re sign

[Johnnyrotten]

8 hours ago, Casino said:

As for JDB, its obvious his injuries will come into it

You really cant, unless you are a simpleton, factor in the latest one

Its about the medics taking a view on the muscle ones

If its 80% that they think hes gonna be fit, he stays

He just has too

Class above most of what we have

Agree 100%.  I would have said the same in February when we were still hopeful the 3 new strikers would be adequate replacements.  Now that we've seen how difficult it is to sign a decent striker, I find it baffling that anyone would say we should release him.  He'd probably end up playing against us as well given that he won't realistically get a higher division.

[Johnnyrotten]

9 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Joel Dixon - has few fans but still need a decent 2nd choice - Release

MJ Williams - Versatile but we need better  - Release

Kieran Lee - love him but too injury prone this season - Release

Josh Sheehan  - shown flashes of quality but not a Champ player,  can do a job at this level - New contract

George Thomason  - Evatt likes him but he's not in the starting line up - Keep on the hope he gets better.

Lloyd Isgrove -  great servant but time to move on. - Release

Elias Kachunga - I like him (ducks) but when we signed him we had to wait for him to lower his wage demands so expensive.  New contract on less money.

Jon Dadi Bodvarsson - when fit he gives us another dimension - New contract.

 

That frees up 4 places plus the returning loans.  10 news players needed on the assumption that Sads is going to be moved on.

Disagree on Kieran Lee, as reliable as any of the midfielders under contract.  Has he been unavailable through injury any more than Sheehan, Dempsey for eg?

We are better when he plays in my opinion, another baffling one for me when Thomasson gets the nod over him (not necessarily talking about last night, just generally).

I also rate MJW well above Thomasson too, but as said below, he seems to be a project of IEs and I expect MJ to go, but we'll struggle to get better on a free.

It all depends what the options are though, if we could find a midfielder that can pass, tackle and SHOOT, get rid of MJ!

[only1swanny]

Think he will keep Dixon as a back up,  he won't be on much andIE clearly rates him from their barrow days. 

EK would have to be on reduced terms, him over Jerome any day. Same with JDB..

Can't see who to play from JDB EK DC VA and CJ. EK cab play as attacking midfield though which gives him more flexibility as an impact sub.

I'd imagine the others will go. KL hasn't been starting or even getting on,

[tomski]

Do like it when we say people can stay on reduced terms. How much are they on and how much must we reduce their wage?. I can’t see it being very appealing unless no other options.

Edited May 20, 2023 by tomski

[little whitt]

If they where not good Enough to get us up this time 

They wont next time 

New Blood 

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, little whitt said:

If they where not good Enough to get us up this time 

They wont next time 

New Blood 

So you wouldn't have Trafford and Bradley back? Give over man.

[Zico]

18 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Think he will keep Dixon as a back up,  he won't be on much andIE clearly rates him from their barrow days. 

Think it became quite evident that IE realised Dixon was a non league keeper when he brought in Trafford mid season to replace him 

He's full of mistakes and he rarely makes the bench anyway 

I'll be amazed he he's here next season

[Rizlar]

3 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

Doesn’t mean we can’t move him on just because he’s under contract. Either pay it up or see if he can find another club if he wants to continue playing. Of the out of contract I’d only keep Sheehan, Bod and Lee sadly can’t do another 46 game season plus cup games and if we seriously want promotion we need fit players every week. As for incomings I can’t see better than Cole Stockton since we didn’t go up.

Agree with Stockton and IE as been linked previously with him . 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

4 hours ago, THOMASON said:

Thomason's contract ends 2025

Thanks, George's dad

[Farnywhite]

42 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Think he will keep Dixon as a back up,  he won't be on much andIE clearly rates him from their barrow days. 

He might of rated him back at barrow but there is no way he could possibly rate him now after watching is performances .
The club as been to big for him and he has lost confidence. 
The villa performance was a perfect example when he was given a chance. 

[little whitt]

29 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So you wouldn't have Trafford and Bradley back? Give over man.

OVS but they where Loans 

 

[Cheese]

Just now, little whitt said:

OVS but they where Loans 

But they weren't good enough to get us up this year.

[FrancisFogarty]

The Jan signings were IE signings, and have been disappointing to say the least.

I still have faith in him, but we can’t afford to piss about while he finds a position for any new signings just to justify buying or loaning them in. However much they cost.

In Sharon we trust.

[little whitt]

42 minutes ago, Cheese said:

But they weren't good enough to get us up this year.

if you read it 

it says 

Retain/Release 

not loan Players