Farnywhite Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: He’s fucking woeful, never a footballer in the memory of man, doesn’t even try most of the time. Come January he needs moving out on loan. may be to Cheltenham then bring someone else in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Its either in your character/personality or it isn't, you can't tell a Kieron Lee or Aaron Morley to be vocal, it has to be natural like a Spearing or Nolan or even Sarcevic (maybe he was too much of a moaner/too negative with teammates?). It seemed odd to me that Dempsey was captain at Gillingham because he never appears to open his mouth, just looks permanently grumpy! Looking from afar we have a team of players that aren't natural leaders, although Jones and Santos do have some leadership/organisational qualities. There is more to leading than being vocal. Just working bloody hard, making it difficult for the opponent and showing passion will get fans up. As said above; a lot of our players aren't great at the tackle, in which case lots of work to close players and space is needed. All will be appreciated. Taking the foot off the gas and allowing an opponent more of the ball is the opposite of what's needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: Come January he needs moving out on loan. may be to Cheltenham then bring someone else in Cameron Jerome will work his magic on him big influence apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Zico said: I asked evatt about this at a q&a last season, basically asked why he didn't put a keeper on the bench He said as obvious as it might sound his philosophy is to score more than the opposition so that's how he approaches each game and has players on the bench that he can look to to change things if it's not working out He has said that before, but it's a bit weak. Especially if the other strikers aren't cutting it. It's too simplistic- he doesn't seem willing to tinker with formation or personnel to suit the situation. Always the same subs irrespective. For example, if we're starting to lose the midfield battle, then why not put an extra body in there? Even the great SAF would swallow his pride and change things as necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted October 21, 2023 Members Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Maybe feeling a bit too comfortable. Swap comfortable for complacent . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 it's not good enough , full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auckland_bwfc Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Yes Sheehan was a class above anyone else on the pitch, hard to believe he looked like a squad player 8 months ago, now he's undroppable. As bad as Williams can be, credit for the 2 goals and a decent 1st half, but Cogley took terrible to a different level today (and not much better v Carlisle). Yet with Jones now treated as a CB, Cogley has zero competition for his place, that has got to change in January surely. Wouldn't be surprised to see Mattheson creep in at some point. Sat watching the Carlisle game it struck me he struggled when under the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: He’s fucking woeful, never a footballer in the memory of man, doesn’t even try most of the time. Just needs a pre season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, victor meldrew said: it's not good enough , full stop. We won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: We won. and ... 2 weeks ago we lost to another shit team , could have been 2-2 easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted October 21, 2023 Members Share Posted October 21, 2023 Chucked the tired excuse in again !! 😂 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, victor meldrew said: and ... 2 weeks ago we lost to another shit team , could have been 2-2 easily Could have easily been 5-0. It wasn't. It was 2-1. A win. Edited October 21, 2023 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 northern rail are an absolute shambles delays going & returning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Not sure how you give him 3, wasn’t involved much didn’t do anything wrong. I think he’s had a decent start to his Bolton career plays all games and rarely subbed, seems IE likes him. Just kept giving the ball away, especially in 2nd half. Agreed not involved in 1st half but poor when he was. A lot of the play in the 2nd half was down our right half and he was poor except for that one decent cross to Charles feet for one of our rare shots. Against Carlisle played the safe sideways/backwards cross far too much, making it easy to defend against, no trickery or change of pace. I'm not writing him off or anything, just commenting on his last 2 games and the fact that there's no competition for his position, hence he never gets subbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, burnden said: Chucked the tired excuse in again !! 😂 🙈 After take your word for it . £50 to hear what he as to say . Why don’t they throw it in with the season ticket for fucks sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 They were the laziest, most uninterested set of professional players I've seen in a long long while until we went to pot and then I was praying for the final whistle. It's a win but summat really isn't quite right somewhere along the line, and that's taking into account the standard of some of our players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 This tiredness thing, has he given any indication as to why it keeps happening, why its a recurring issue? Is it the training or is is the players? Because its weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2-5 hours to ge there from Leeds today. I think today summed us up, for a period at start of each half looked miles ahead of them but somehow ended up hanging on. In the good periods we played the game going fwad, GT drove through midfield really well, Sheehan buzzing around finding gaps and playing incisive passes. Just seems to fall apart and we struggle to get going again. No one gets turned, Dion comes short and loses the ball 99% of the time. 3 points are what really matters but I think a lot of cracks being papered over. Santos is a million miles our best player. GT seemed to play a lot more left side today and I thought was good. The subs were awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auckland_bwfc Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Sixty quid up thanks to my Dion FGS / Bolton win bet. Didn't go for the 0-0 in the end. They were poor. Three points. We roll on another week. If the away end was packed we'd not have won in my opinion Oh well 4th, somehow, Im hoping Paris becomes the man for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Our quick starts are doing the heavy lifting in the same way that last-minute goals did the season before last. If we can play well in both halves we'll get promoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Farnywhite said: Come January he needs moving out on loan. may be to Cheltenham then bring someone else in Yes Cheltenham are struggling for goals, I'm sure their new manager Daryl Clarke will be on the phone to Evatt on the 1st of Jan 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) The reason we don’t appear to have any leaders on the pitch is due to our Manager IMO. He’s the boss, end of, and that isn’t always conducive to having another one on the pitch. The only one who appears to have leadership qualities is young George. You rarely see Santos open his mouth for Gods sake. Major concern. Edited October 21, 2023 by captainmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, auckland_bwfc said: Sixty quid up thanks to my Dion FGS / Bolton win bet. Didn't go for the 0-0 in the end. They were poor. Three points. We roll on another week. If the away end was packed we'd not have won in my opinion Oh well 4th, somehow, Im hoping Paris becomes the man for us. I was thinking that, if that had been the Carlisle fans driving them on to come from 2 down, it would have been an even longer last 20 minutes. I'm convinced that away end costs us some points every season, compared to 95% of away ends in the 4 divisions. Blackpool next home game and I'd feel more confident if we gave them 2.5k in WSU instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said: 45 minutes of Brazil. 45 minutes of Alan Brazil. Summed it up for me First half was just what you want to see and fully deserved 2-0 Second half was like I’ve walked into a different game In all honesty I’m with @Cheesein the fuck it, we won, it’s 3 points, move on But I’m seeing the doubts that @radcliffe white has and struggle to see us as top 2 at the moment. Play offs yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Interesting shift in midfield to put Sheehan at the base today and push GT further forward - it looked to work so much better in the first half, Sheehan looked a class above anyone and was completely dominant, we broke through the lines time after time (they really did look shit) and GT added a bit more balance in midfield being left footed on the left side. Then it went to shit. We slowed everything down about 35 mins and took all urgency out of our play. I’m sure the aim was to settle things down and consolidate the lead but it had the opposite effect, we were so complacent (how many 5 yard fucking passes in promising positions were misplaced!!?) and then it snowballed with us getting slower, panicking more, making more mistakes, sitting back and in the end holding on for dear life against a terrible team! One player that I think is getting better and better in his general play but is probably going under the radar is Vic - another really good game today and his hold up / link up play seems to be getting miles better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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