Ani Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: …and that he knows the players personally, sees them every day in training, has knowledge of their mental state, problems they’re facing and what’s on their mind at any particular time, analyses their performance stats, knows what niggles and injuries they might be carrying, sees how they fit in with others and is their boss etc etc….but all that aside, he’s just the same as the fans None of which explains why whinging about the fans is useful . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 4 Moderators Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Ani said: None of which explains why whinging about the fans is useful . Reading his quites, do you really think thats whinging Problem is, hes required to front up, he gets asked a question about the crowd reaction He gives an opinion, its not like he calls @victor meldrewa miserable moaning gerritooffed cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Casino said: Reading his quites, do you really think thats whinging Problem is, hes required to front up, he gets asked a question about the crowd reaction He gives an opinion, its not like he calls @victor meldrewa miserable moaning gerritooffed cunt I was once told at work to 'say the second thing that comes into your head.' IE as manager of the club must have done media training, his comments are going to be analysed. I did not see it but others including @Big E said he reacted during the game when people cheered when we went long. Why is it ok for him to react but not the fans ? It just causes a load of unnecessary noise and as I say feeds the doom merchants. I agree his words are not that bad, but why say anything? I can not believe anyone was not wound up by the first 20 minutes of the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 If I was a suspicious man I'd wonder if he wasn't making room to blame the fans/club for him walking to take over at a bigger club with more supportive fans. Thankfully I'm not a suspicious type. Not a bit. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Perhaps we should all shout "Olé!" to every short pass out at the back. That might make Evatt happier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I remember an ex Bolton manager saying fan criticism like "water off a ducks back". Personally thought that was a cuntish thing to say. Don't mind Evatt getting a little prickly tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, jayjayoghani said: I remember an ex Bolton manager saying fan criticism like "water off a ducks back". Personally thought that was a cuntish thing to say. Don't mind Evatt getting a little prickly tbh. That was Phil Neal after dropping 2 points against a Yorkshire club Phil Neal won the Sherpa Van but lost in the 3rd tier play offs twice and was sacked a year after the second defeat. Deja vu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 8 hours ago, Casino said: Reading his quites, do you really think thats whinging Problem is, hes required to front up, he gets asked a question about the crowd reaction He gives an opinion, its not like he calls @victor meldrewa miserable moaning gerritooffed cunt Quite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 5 Members Share Posted February 5 8 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said: If I was a suspicious man I'd wonder if he wasn't making room to blame the fans/club for him walking to take over at a bigger club with more supportive fans. Thankfully I'm not a suspicious type. Not a bit. At all. I think he's just a bit sensitive at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 5 Site Supporter Share Posted February 5 56 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think he's just a bit sensitive at times This. As usual, it's not a black and white case, but the grey in between. Everyone is passionate, and occasionally we say stuff when heated that we otherwise might not. I'm sure he will consider what he said and learn from it, albeit slowly. Certainly nothing to get worked up over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted February 5 Site Supporter Share Posted February 5 7 hours ago, Traf said: Perhaps we should all shout "Olé!" to every short pass out at the back. That might make Evatt happier. That’s a great idea, I’ll join in next home game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 5 Moderators Share Posted February 5 Cant wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I’m not sure the debate is whether he is right or wrong but does anyone think it helped? Could be argued it did as subs were made and the equaliser came. My take is Barnsley should of scored during that period and the game would be dead by the subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I’m happy for Evatt to point it out… it’s clear that we need to continue with this style of play if we are to progress when we eventually get promoted, look at the difference between sheff wed/Rotherham style as opposed to Ipswich who’ve made the transition to championship smoothly. The process has to continue and the few fans who resort to boot it upfield need to embrace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 5 Moderators Share Posted February 5 10 minutes ago, tomski said: I’m not sure the debate is whether he is right or wrong but does anyone think it helped? i'm convinced it didn't help im equally convinced Bodvarsson changed the game, as finally, the longer ball was an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Casino said: i'm convinced it didn't help im equally convinced Bodvarsson changed the game, as finally, the longer ball was an option Aye its alright screaming at the defence to hoof it up but if the ball is coming straight back its pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostock Whites Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) I don't think Evatt knows how lucky he is to have our supporters, the boos and groans could be way worse and more hostile at other clubs/countries. I actually don't mind the fact that there is at least an atmosphere and it wasn't all negative. As soon as they scored in the 3rd minute the fans all got behind the team and you couldn't even hear the away end. There was just a 10 minute period of madness, which even the most patient of supporters could see there was something obviously wrong. Evatt cant just expect the fans to sit there like they're in a cinema. He shouldn't have came out and attacked the supporters. There was nearly 22,000 there on Saturday, with that comes an expectation that players should already be used to. And with 22,000 supporters, even if there was were just 5% of disgruntled fans that's still 1,100 angry voices. Evatt is more than aware of the size of the club and expectation, particularly now in League 1 with probably the best squad in the league. It's part of the game. We have to expect to win almost every game from now till the end of the season if we want to achieve our objectives. The fans have been averaging more than most Championship clubs and some Premier League, and I've lost count on how many sold out away games we've had. We are all in it together and I fully believe in Evatt and the team, but there are going to be challenging moments ahead. Edited February 5 by Lostock Whites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Think I’m in a minority who actually really enjoyed the game on Saturday. Some great football played. Some silly mistakes (but this is third tier football remember). A sloppy goal to concede - but shoe on the other foot, I’d have felt it was a great goal to score. Our equaliser was a cracker. Great cross, not unlike a John McGinlay cross of old. Bodvarsson definitely changed the game. Charles had a great chance first half that he blazed over – going for power over accuracy. Couldn’t help but think that the likes of Andy Walker and John McGinlay would have found the far corner along the floor. Decent atmosphere. Poor result – but does keep Barnsley at arms length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 5 Moderators Share Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said: He shouldn't have came out and attacked the supporters. drama queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostock Whites Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Casino said: drama queen Yeah because by the word 'attacked', I meant that he got out a cricket bat and went into the Carrs Pasties stand and started laying everybody out. Edited February 5 by Lostock Whites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The short passing game at the back, when done badly as in that 2nd half spell, soon becomes long ball anyway. 3 panicked short passes while under pressure then invariably someone hoofs it away. Just occasionally, Baxter is OK to go long for the same outcome but saves my ticker a bit of unwelcome pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 5 Moderators Share Posted February 5 13 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said: Yeah because by the word 'attacked', I meant that he got out a cricket bat and went into the Carrs Pasties stand and started laying everybody out. Maybe this proves the point Choice of words is very important Youve had 2 days to come up with yours, he had seconds Instead of attacked, what word would have been better? Id go with commented Nobody was attacked and from what ive seen, it was more an appeal not to do it as its counter productive Imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 He was asked about the groans and ironic cheers and he replied saying its not really helpful and adds to the tension. Did people want him to say yeah I fuckin love it when folk shout get it lumped up after hes spent 3 seasons building a unit to do exactly the opposite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted February 5 Site Supporter Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think he's just a bit sensitive at times Like some of our fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’m happy for Evatt to point it out… it’s clear that we need to continue with this style of play if we are to progress when we eventually get promoted, look at the difference between sheff wed/Rotherham style as opposed to Ipswich who’ve made the transition to championship smoothly. The process has to continue and the few fans who resort to boot it upfield need to embrace it. Noones suggesting we ditch the passing style, but you have to be flexible enough to understand when a team has got you on the ropes and all you're achieving by passing it around slowly at the back is hospital passes to teammates. Our players aren't as good as Man City's and even they realise when to mix it up and be more direct when they're being pressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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