Euro 24

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Traf said:

Why do I think we should have been behind those countries?

Because I think when push comes to shove, they're better than we are.

Agreed.

As above, a continued lack of ultimate success makes it difficult to have complete faith.

[Wanderlust]

6 hours ago, tomski said:

Just start Cole Palmer please.

Did anyone else hear the rumour that Southgate only picked Palmer for the squad after captain Kane did an interview saying he should be included - and that Southgate reluctantly included him because he was railroaded into it, so is reticent to play him?

[jayjayoghani]

Don't think Kane is fit either. 

[tomski]

6 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Did anyone else hear the rumour that Southgate only picked Palmer for the squad after captain Kane did an interview saying he should be included - and that Southgate reluctantly included him because he was railroaded into it, so is reticent to play him?

Can’t say i did. Not suggesting it’s wrong. Just not heard owt.

He’s so good. Crime to restrict his minutes. Plus he takes a good pen

[paulhanley]

I don't understand why he doesn't consider Joe Gomez at left back. He's been doing it for Liverpool. Anything has to be better than Trippier constantly cutting back inside because he's right footed! 

Tomorrow night I'd be going for 

Pickford

Walker Stones Guehi Gomez

Mainoo Rice

Palmer Bellingham Gordon

Kane

..... Foden and Saka coming on as impact subs later in the game if needed.

[tomski]

4 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand why he doesn't consider Joe Gomez at left back. He's been doing it for Liverpool. Anything has to be better than Trippier constantly cutting back inside because he's right footed! 

Tomorrow night I'd be going for 

Pickford

Walker Stones Guehi Gomez

Mainoo Rice

Palmer Bellingham Gordon

Kane

..... Foden and Saka coming on as impact subs later in the game if needed.

Saw Saka ruling himself out of LB last night

[L/H White]

25 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand why he doesn't consider Joe Gomez at left back. He's been doing it for Liverpool. Anything has to be better than Trippier constantly cutting back inside because he's right footed! 

Tomorrow night I'd be going for 

Pickford

Walker Stones Guehi Gomez

Mainoo Rice

Palmer Bellingham Gordon

Kane

..... Foden and Saka coming on as impact subs later in the game if needed.

Foden over Bellingham 

[W.cramp]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

Foden over Bellingham 

Agree.    Bellingham looks goosed.

[gonzo]

8 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Did anyone else hear the rumour that Southgate only picked Palmer for the squad after captain Kane did an interview saying he should be included - and that Southgate reluctantly included him because he was railroaded into it, so is reticent to play him?

The rumour you've made up in your head?

[Mounts Kipper]

2 hours ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand why he doesn't consider Joe Gomez at left back. He's been doing it for Liverpool. Anything has to be better than Trippier constantly cutting back inside because he's right footed! 

Tomorrow night I'd be going for 

Pickford

Walker Stones Guehi Gomez

Mainoo Rice

Palmer Bellingham Gordon

Kane

..... Foden and Saka coming on as impact subs later in the game if needed.

Kane shown nothing. I give him a breather try freshen him up. Should be no problem getting past Slovakia whichever 11 are selected. 

Edited June 29, 2024 by Mounts Kipper

[Wanderlust]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The rumour you've made up in your head?

It's what my mate swears is gospel every time we discuss the England team in the pub. Pretty much everyone else reckons Palmer should play, but mate always throws that spanner in the works whenever it's brought up.

[Arrested development]

The only certain thing is foden can't play from the left. That's the main problem. Address that and we will be more balanced. How thats addressed is up for debate but if foden is on the left, it's more of the same dysfunction. 

[deeane Koontz]

I'd happily drop, Jude, Saka and Kane.

Get Gordon, Watkins and Palmer in

Bloody crying out for movement. We're At our best when we shifting the ball fast and making smart interchanges.

[deeane Koontz]

Guehi has impressed me. Appears to have a bit of everything. Even when he mucks up he seems hell-bent on making it right 

[tomski]

16 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

I'd happily drop, Jude, Saka and Kane.

Get Gordon, Watkins and Palmer in

Bloody crying out for movement. We're At our best when we shifting the ball fast and making smart interchanges.

Kootz out😂 a little drastic in my opinion. No way I’m dropping Kane for Watkins. No issue with Palmer or flash coming in though

[Marc505]

Looking forward to the games today, good to have it back even though we're clearly going to go into knockout mode of 0-0 and pens every other game. Some potentially really good match ups in this second round.

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

I'd happily drop, Jude, Saka and Kane.

Get Gordon, Watkins and Palmer in

Bloody crying out for movement. We're At our best when we shifting the ball fast and making smart interchanges.

Where I'm at.

[Traf]

Imagine taking a 26-man squad to a major tournament without a left back/left wing back

[bolty58]

8 minutes ago, Traf said:

Imagine taking a 26-man squad to a major tournament without a left back/left wing back

...or without Jack Grealish.

[deeane Koontz]

11 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Where I'm at.

The thing with having Watkins in he's got that unselfish movement where he creates space and pockets for others even when there's nothing in it for himself. Obviously not the finisher, passer Kane is but fucking hell it's frustrating watching him bumble about.

[bolty58]

Just now, deeane Koontz said:

The thing with having Watkins in he's got that unselfish movement where he creates space and pockets for others even when there's nothing in it for himself. 

Yep and he gets in behind defences which you don't see too often from Harry.

I really like the lad. Willing worker and a good enough finisher if the feed is right.

[Ani]

I have a theory on Bellingham. (and by theory I mean totally wishful thinking that he is not as lazy or overcome with his superstar status as it has seemed)

 

I think he may learned from playing at Real Madrid that every single game does not matter in terms of performance, you do enough to get to next stage and improve as the tournament progresses and then without being the outstanding team you end up winning the thing. Their Champions League/European cup record is so good but they always seem to do just enough, that mentality has rubbed off on Bellingham. 
 

[tomski]

Bellingham is quality. No one is writing him off

[barrycowdrill]

Konsa touted to come in if trippier isn’t fit. Goes from bad to worse. A CB replacing a RB at left back because you banked on our main LB being fit despite not playing for 4 months and you felt it the right decision to not take another legitimate LB

the guy is an absolute fucking clown and I cannot wait to see the back of him.  Yes you could say he’s the reason we got to a WC semi and a Euro final but he’s also 100% the reason why they didn’t turn in to a WC final and Euro title. Bottlelees prick whose always more concerned with stopping the opposition first before working out how we can hurt them 

[Arrested development]

9 minutes ago, Ani said:

I have a theory on Bellingham. (and by theory I mean totally wishful thinking that he is not as lazy or overcome with his superstar status as it has seemed)

 

I think he may learned from playing at Real Madrid that every single game does not matter in terms of performance, you do enough to get to next stage and improve as the tournament progresses and then without being the outstanding team you end up winning the thing. Their Champions League/European cup record is so good but they always seem to do just enough, that mentality has rubbed off on Bellingham. 
 

What have you seen that has indicated he's lazy? He seems proper down to earth and not superstarish. He's deffo not lazy. 

He's frustrated and I think you can see that but he's not the only one. The system isn't working for anyone. Teams are playing a low block , foden, Bellingham ahd Kane are  all fighting for the same space. Everything is congested and there is no width on the left hand side. 

If southgate doesn't address the left hand side it's just gonna be more of the same.