New Poll - Evatt

[Rizlar]

Can we put to bed this getting relegated because of the Everton result , we got relegated because we didn’t win enough games in the season. 

[RoadRunnerFan]

16 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

I remember it well. All the REALLY big names came when ED started throwing big money at it. But it was a quality team SA inherited from Colin Todd - a team that was unjustly relegated from the Premiership on goal difference just two seasons before (I'm talking about the goal against Everton). Allardyce inherited Eidur Gudjonssen, Per Frandsen, Dean Holdsworth, Jensen, Gudni Bergsson, Feeeeeesh, Mike Whitlow and Ricardo Gardner amongst others from him FFS.

We were absolutely expecting promotion when Allardyce came and even though his early recruitment wasn't as inspiring as say Bruce Rioch, he delivered the expected promotion. Our excellent scouting and recruiting network was still in place at that time. The only reason Todd left was our slow start to the season versus our massive expectations and I still believe he would have got us promoted (again) that year anyway but he was gone by September.

All of which is vastly different to what Evatt inherited  - remember THAT squad???? - and the budget he has worked with to build the club back up from the edge of non-league.. IMO SA has no right to shoot his mouth off about a situation he has no experience of - parroting things that were already discussed months before - and undermining our team and manager at a difficult time. The fucker should be helping, not hindering.

The losses were modest until after Sam.

EDs big money went on the likes of Zat Knight & David N Gog in the prem then the likes of Keet Andrews & Matt Mills on a bid to get back. 

It's all in the accounts and it's been done to death on here over the years.

Most of the best players Sam inherited he had to sell. He didn't spend money that the club/ED couldn't afford. It's a convenient morality tale that the big clubs media cheerleaders dreamt up as as to warning clubs like us about getting above our station. 

Did he leave us in a shit way yes, did he leave us with an old squad with little resale value, yes. But he didn't spunk EDs money. 

Edited September 21, 2024 by RoadRunnerFan

[Rival Son]

22 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

I remember it well. All the REALLY big names came when ED started throwing big money at it. But it was a quality team SA inherited from Colin Todd - a team that was unjustly relegated from the Premiership on goal difference just two seasons before (I'm talking about the goal against Everton). Allardyce inherited Eidur Gudjonssen, Per Frandsen, Dean Holdsworth, Jensen, Gudni Bergsson, Feeeeeesh, Mike Whitlow and Ricardo Gardner amongst others from him FFS.

We were absolutely expecting promotion when Allardyce came and even though his early recruitment wasn't as inspiring as say Bruce Rioch, he delivered the expected promotion. Our excellent scouting and recruiting network was still in place at that time. The only reason Todd left was our slow start to the season versus our massive expectations and I still believe he would have got us promoted (again) that year anyway but he was gone by September.

All of which is vastly different to what Evatt inherited  - remember THAT squad???? - and the budget he has worked with to build the club back up from the edge of non-league.. IMO SA has no right to shoot his mouth off about a situation he has no experience of - parroting things that were already discussed months before - and undermining our team and manager at a difficult time. The fucker should be helping, not hindering.

You don’t remember it that well. Sam didn’t inherit Per Frandsen. The reason Todd resigned was not because of our slow start, but because the board went against his wishes, and sold Frandsen to Blackburn.

You also omit one of the true stalwarts of our Premier League years, who was inherited by Allardyce: Jussi! Given that he featured more under Allardyce than any of other players you list, it’s a strange omission.

[paulhanley]

34 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

I remember it well. All the REALLY big names came when ED started throwing big money at it. But it was a quality team SA inherited from Colin Todd - a team that was unjustly relegated from the Premiership on goal difference just two seasons before (I'm talking about the goal against Everton). Allardyce inherited Eidur Gudjonssen, Per Frandsen, Dean Holdsworth, Jensen, Gudni Bergsson, Feeeeeesh, Mike Whitlow and Ricardo Gardner amongst others from him FFS.

We were absolutely expecting promotion when Allardyce came and even though his early recruitment wasn't as inspiring as say Bruce Rioch, he delivered the expected promotion. Our excellent scouting and recruiting network was still in place at that time. The only reason Todd left was our slow start to the season versus our massive expectations and I still believe he would have got us promoted (again) that year anyway but he was gone by September.

All of which is vastly different to what Evatt inherited  - remember THAT squad???? - and the budget he has worked with to build the club back up from the edge of non-league.. IMO SA has no right to shoot his mouth off about a situation he has no experience of - parroting things that were already discussed months before - and undermining our team and manager at a difficult time. The fucker should be helping, not hindering.

I'm not sure we can say we were expecting promotion when Big Sam arrived. We'd started 99/2000 poorly because the defensive flaws of the previous season had not been rectified. We'd signed Newsome and Warhurst on loan and that did the job for a while but then it all went bad again. 

Indeed the reason Todd left was because defensively we'd been poor for quite some time and it was costing us. Equally we'd developed a tendency to be bullied by physical teams - a tendency that had been entirely absence in the 96/7 team that he constructed. 

There are some parallels between Todd's later days and Evatt right now. 

[Wanderlust]

2 hours ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

The losses were modest until after Sam.

EDs big money went on the likes of Zat Knight & David N Gog in the prem then the likes of Keet Andrews & Matt Mills on a bid to get back. 

It's all in the accounts and it's been done to death on here over the years.

Most of the best players Sam inherited he had to sell. He didn't spend money that the club/ED couldn't afford. It's a convenient morality tale that the big clubs media cheerleaders dreamt up as as to warning clubs like us about getting above our station. 

Did he leave us in a shit way yes, did he leave us with an old squad with little resale value, yes. But he didn't spunk EDs money. 

Not what I wrote.

[RoadRunnerFan]

6 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

I remember it well. All the REALLY big names came when ED started throwing big money at it. But it was a quality team SA inherited from Colin Todd - a team that was unjustly relegated from the Premiership on goal difference just two seasons before (I'm talking about the goal against Everton). Allardyce inherited Eidur Gudjonssen, Per Frandsen, Dean Holdsworth, Jensen, Gudni Bergsson, Feeeeeesh, Mike Whitlow and Ricardo Gardner amongst others from him FFS.

We were absolutely expecting promotion when Allardyce came and even though his early recruitment wasn't as inspiring as say Bruce Rioch, he delivered the expected promotion. Our excellent scouting and recruiting network was still in place at that time. The only reason Todd left was our slow start to the season versus our massive expectations and I still believe he would have got us promoted (again) that year anyway but he was gone by September.

All of which is vastly different to what Evatt inherited  - remember THAT squad???? - and the budget he has worked with to build the club back up from the edge of non-league.. IMO SA has no right to shoot his mouth off about a situation he has no experience of - parroting things that were already discussed months before - and undermining our team and manager at a difficult time. The fucker should be helping, not hindering.

Fair enough pal. It's not what you wrote.

I'd interpreted the big names as Okocha, Djorkaeff, Campo, Anelka. 

The accounts say that the losses were incurred (ie Ed throwing big money at it) on the like of David N'Gog, Zat Knight, Matt Mills & Keet Andrews.

So the big names had mainly been and gone long before ED started throwing big money at it. 

[gonzo]

8 hours ago, maaarsh said:

I think losing and Evatt sacked would be a better day for the club than a win, yes.

 

I think winning, scoring 5, playing a midfield, playing a faster approach, the players being up for it and the manager and players approaching the ESL in unison with saluting fans is a better day if Im honest.

 

[Rizlar]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I think winning, scoring 5, playing a midfield, playing a faster approach, the players being up for it and the manager and players approaching the ESL in unison with saluting fans is a better day if Im honest.

 

Let’s hope this is the start of something good !

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I think winning, scoring 5, playing a midfield, playing a faster approach, the players being up for it and the manager and players approaching the ESL in unison with saluting fans is a better day if Im honest.

 

Yep.

Most of us have said at some point he should go, but even if he had, that wouldn't have guaranteed anything. 

Always a risk either way, therefore the best outcome is for them to win each subsequent game.

Do that, and it doesn't matter who's in charge. That has to be best for us and the club.

 

[Casino]

8 hours ago, maaarsh said:

I think losing and Evatt sacked would be a better day for the club than a win, yes.

It doesn't mean I want us to lose - I want us to get promoted and I don't see it ever happening with Evatt now.

Youre still backing Johnson, arent you

[burnden]

What the fuck is wrong with people eh  😠

[Rizlar]

Just now, burnden said:

What the fuck is wrong with people eh  😠

Disgraceful ffs it’s only a football match hang your heads in shame ! 

[onefinfrandsen]

2 minutes ago, burnden said:

What the fuck is wrong with people eh  😠

He looked really emotional in his interview after the game, if that shit is true then who could blame him for walking away

[London Wanderer]

5 minutes ago, burnden said:

What the fuck is wrong with people eh  😠

Fckn hell

[burnden]

He mentions it on here.  

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

I hope this isn't actually true!

If it is, then they need a good shoeing. 

If folk are getting locked post-riot for stuff said on social media, then surely this is an escalation of that type of activity. 

[Big E]

Weird cunts hunting out kids online. Very odd behaviour. Could be very serious repercussions for this 

Edited September 21, 2024 by Big E

[Casino]

5 minutes ago, burnden said:

He mentions it on here.  

 

I like you, but the other day you said something a bit shitty about him, imo

Do you want to take it back?

[Casino]

Ive not caught up and wont until tmrw, but i really hope somebody has had a word with the evatt out banner cunts

Its been suggested it was craig edl nonce barnes

[desperado]

13 minutes ago, burnden said:

He mentions it on here.  

 

Makes both him and me a bit emotional.

He’s not a c#nt is he? 

[tomski]

14 minutes ago, Casino said:

I like you, but the other day you said something a bit shitty about him, imo

Do you want to take it back?

Oh give over

[gonzo]

6 minutes ago, desperado said:

Makes both him and me a bit emotional.

He’s not a c#nt is he? 

Some of the insults and shit I've read this week really make me doubt the world.

Blokes just trying to do a job. 

[burnden]

15 minutes ago, Casino said:

I like you, but the other day you said something a bit shitty about him, imo

Do you want to take it back?

There is a bit of a difference between commenting about a grown man than contacting someones kids no?   That said maybe calling him a cunt was a bit far.

Edited September 21, 2024 by burnden

[royal white]

1 minute ago, burnden said:

There is a bit of a difference between commenting about a grown man than contacting someones kids no?   That said maybe calling him a cunt was a bit far.

If we are on about Mr Barnes then he is indeed a cat molesting nonce and deserves all the shit he gets 

[desperado]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

If we are on about Mr Barnes then he is indeed a cat molesting nonce and deserves all the shit he gets 

🤣

He was talking about Evatt!