Blackpool (H)

[Greg_BWFC]

56 minutes ago, Casino said:

Theres a thogden wannabe on YT

Bens vlogs or similat

He captures the goal from level with vic and collins and theyre clearly 'offside'

However, vic is not in the keepers eyeline

If he touches it or even tries, then hes active

goal for me, which, if given and collins doesnt miss from a yard, is one of 4 in a mighty impressive 2nd half

The player most impeding the keeper's view was a Blackpool defender. 

And Victor wasn't offside in the first instance.

Ridiculous that the ref and linesman didn't discuss it, unless as @desperadosuggests , they are in contact via mic.

Anyway, we won 😁

[masi 51]

10 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

Not seen it mentioned but anybody notice the bedsheet brought out at the start of the 2nd half - bottom of esl ,   looked like a bloke and his 12 year old son.   'Thanks evatt but time to go' or somet like that were the felt tip words.    Pathetic prick

if it was two adults i agree with you. I want Evatt gone but it would never enter my head to pull a stunt like that.

If my lad wanted to do that at 12 years of age i would at first tell him there are other ways of going about it, but if after that he still wanted to do it i would say fair enough.

Coming on here calling a kid a pathetic prick is ironic

[bolty58]

Just happy to beat the tangerine twats. Great equaliser.

[Rival Son]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Theres a thogden wannabe on YT

Bens vlogs or similat

He captures the goal from level with vic and collins and theyre clearly 'offside'

However, vic is not in the keepers eyeline

If he touches it or even tries, then hes active

goal for me, which, if given and collins doesnt miss from a yard, is one of 4 in a mighty impressive 2nd half

The still from Sky is pretty clear. On the refs line of sight, Charles, Vic and the keeper are all within a yard of each other. Once the linesman flagged offside, it’s a strong possibility the Vic was in the keepers eyeline. VAR MAY have awarded a goal, but checking wasn’t an option.

As others have said, the ref was poor yesterday, for both teams. But I think this was a long way from the worst decision.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Rival Son

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

The still from Sky is pretty clear. On the refs line of sight, Charles, Vic and the keeper are all within a yard of each other. Once the linesman flagged offside, it’s a strong possibility the Vic was in the keepers eyeline. VAR MAY have awarded a goal, but checking wasn’t an option.

As others have said, the ref was poor yesterday, for both teams. But I think this was a long way from the worst decision.

Seems fair.

Any sign of the ref talking to the lino on the headpiece though, or was it simply disallowed as soon as the flag went up?

[Eddie]

15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Seems fair.

Any sign of the ref talking to the lino on the headpiece though, or was it simply disallowed as soon as the flag went up?

They’re all mic’d up so I’ve no doubt they’ll have been talking about line of sight (ref) and actually being offside (lino).

Talking of shit refs, anyone seen Charlton’s red card yesterday? Striker flails a leg when chasing down a throw in that was returned to the thrower, free kick, possibly a yellow card at the very most but the ref goes and sends the lad off. Just another example of a ref that has never played the game before and just doesn’t understand it.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

They’re all mic’d up so I’ve no doubt they’ll have been talking about line of sight (ref) and actually being offside (lino).

Talking of shit refs, anyone seen Charlton’s red card yesterday? Striker flails a leg when chasing down a throw in that was returned to the thrower, free kick, possibly a yellow card at the very most but the ref goes and sends the lad off. Just another example of a ref that has never played the game before and just doesn’t understand it.

Presumably they'll appeal. 

Doesn't help them for the game gone though.

We've had more than our share of such reds in recent seasons.

[tomski]

2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

They’re all mic’d up so I’ve no doubt they’ll have been talking about line of sight (ref) and actually being offside (lino).

Talking of shit refs, anyone seen Charlton’s red card yesterday? Striker flails a leg when chasing down a throw in that was returned to the thrower, free kick, possibly a yellow card at the very most but the ref goes and sends the lad off. Just another example of a ref that has never played the game before and just doesn’t understand it.

Clever play. Sheff u one was equally embarrassing. Little push and went down like a sack of shit. Then did a gay little wink after. Laughing is acceptable but winking is not.

[Casino]

31 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

The still from Sky is pretty clear. On the refs line of sight, Charles, Vic and the keeper are all within a yard of each other. Once the linesman flagged offside, it’s a strong possibility the Vic was in the keepers eyeline. VAR MAY have awarded a goal, but checking wasn’t an option.

As others have said, the ref was poor yesterday, for both teams. But I think this was a long way from the worst decision.

One of the refs sky drag out to explain decisions talked abiut the city goal v wolves

Stones?

He explained line of sight isnt really an issue

Keepers view of the ball isnt impaired and vic doesnt try to play it

Its still a goal, imo

[W.cramp]

45 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

if it was two adults i agree with you. I want Evatt gone but it would never enter my head to pull a stunt like that.

If my lad wanted to do that at 12 years of age i would at first tell him there are other ways of going about it, but if after that he still wanted to do it i would say fair enough.

Coming on here calling a kid a pathetic prick is ironic

You obviously missed the 'looked like a bloke' bit.

Prick

[desperado]

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Seems fair.

Any sign of the ref talking to the lino on the headpiece though, or was it simply disallowed as soon as the flag went up?

Asked the same question earlier, I’m not sure. Looking at Bens vlog I don’t think there is any microphone communications between Ref and Linesman. It looks like ref is happy to give it, then sees the delayed flag, then disallows it.

Wrong decision for me, as Vic doesn’t seem to be impeding the keepers view.

[Eddie]

1 minute ago, tomski said:

Clever play. Sheff u one was equally embarrassing. Little push and went down like a sack of shit. Then did a gay little wink after. Laughing is acceptable but winking is not.

Absolutely, the Huddersfield player did a right job with his reaction, but refs should be able to see through that shit and just make a decision based on the challenge they saw, and there was absolutely nothing in it.

Sheff Utd one was stupid, and he did grab his throat whilst he threw him to the floor, but the reaction was embarrassing, the wink proves what a twat he is and if you’re being really critical you could say that he initially grabbed the back of the lad’s neck initially - so what’s the difference between one grabbing the front and one grabbing the back of the neck in terms of punishment?

Anyway, all good talking points that wouldn’t be around in the stale world of VAR.

[FrancisFogarty]

6 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Give me decent officials over garbage ones any day.

You won’t get any decent officials.  Not in L1 you won’t.

[FrancisFogarty]

I wonder sometimes how much IEs decision to change dugouts (supposedly so he could easier get into the ears of the liner) has affected our treatment at the hands of shite officials

[masi 51]

34 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

You obviously missed the 'looked like a bloke' bit.

Prick

never missed anything...........

[Zico]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

For all those bemoaning the poor first half surely you also have to praise an exceptional second half ? Strange the anti Evatt crowd do not.

in first half Dion misses another sitter from the cross. They score next attack.

Second half on top of the 2 goals Charles has one harshly disallowed and Collins misses a sitter.  4 goals would have reflected the performance. 

Summed us up well at the moment that game 

Utter dog shit and very decent 

Which one will we get next?

[Jol_BWFC]

1 hour ago, FrancisFogarty said:

You won’t get any decent officials.  Not in L1 you won’t.

We need to get Uriah Rennie out of retirement 😁

[Mounts Kipper]

One thing for sure the players and management team look together and tight after yesterday, these anti Evatt mob need to wind their necks in and back the team/manager/ management.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Mounts Kipper

[Zico]

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

One thing for sure the players and management team look together and tight after yesterday, these anti Evatt mob need to wind their necks in and back the team/manager/ management.

I'm sure they are all very happy and get along great 

Just want to know why they are capable of disappearing on a regular basis and us hearing about them not putting a shift in during training 

 

[Ani]

2 hours ago, masi 51 said:

if it was two adults i agree with you. I want Evatt gone but it would never enter my head to pull a stunt like that.

If my lad wanted to do that at 12 years of age i would at first tell him there are other ways of going about it, but if after that he still wanted to do it i would say fair enough.

Coming on here calling a kid a pathetic prick is ironic

Anyone turning up to a game with such a banner is a prick, You can invent some story about how it could some type of father and son rite  of passage to manhood but it is still something done by pricks. 

[tomski]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

I'm sure they are all very happy and get along great 

Just want to know why they are capable of disappearing on a regular basis and us hearing about them not putting a shift in during training 

 

Get behind him. Stop questioning his underachieving.

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, tomski said:

Get behind him. Stop questioning his underachieving.

But it’s not questioning under achievement (I’ve often questioned him) with some fans it’s gone beyond that, almost a pathological hatred of him, I’ve said it all along if we all pull together we can do this… constant sniping every defeat (radio silence when we win) is utter bollocks. 

Edited November 24, 2024 by Mounts Kipper

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

I'm sure they are all very happy and get along great 

Just want to know why they are capable of disappearing on a regular basis and us hearing about them not putting a shift in during training 

 

What we have lacked is leadership on the pitch (and reportedly in training.

Captain Legohead did this yesterday. Pretty sure he put the crosses in that Collins and Dion missed. Watched the game with some Stoke fans and they were raving about him. 
 

Let's see if he can do it on a cold Tuesday at Cambridge rather than his old club. 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

What we have lacked is leadership on the pitch (and reportedly in training.

Captain Legohead did this yesterday. Pretty sure he put the crosses in that Collins and Dion missed. Watched the game with some Stoke fans and they were raving about him. 
 

Let's see if he can do it on a cold Tuesday at Cambridge rather than his old club. 

Yeah with his left foot for Dion's missed header. Probably a little too much pace on it to be honest.

[London Wanderer]

I’d describe myself as anti-Evatt, pretty much since Oxford.

But I want nothing more than for him to prove me wrong & make me look an idiot. Yesterday was fckn brilliant & it’s great to see Thomo back. 

Evatt clearly still has the respect of the dressing room & can instigate a response from the players. I think he’s more than capable of getting us back into the playoffs. I just lack confidence that he will get us over the final hurdle. Be great to see us push for 2nd & get a run together, starting with Cambridge. But we’ve got to be more consistent & we can’t take many more 4-0 batterings from promotion rivals. 

I think with where we are now, Evatt will likely be with us until the end of the season, so we’ve got to get behind him & the team. But we need a fresh change if he fails again. 

Massive game Tuesday, let’s get some momentum.