Marc505 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, gonzo said: Why in Christ’s name is there football still being played at 8pm on a Sunday night? I don't know but this extended weekend of 3rd round action has sucked out all the cup "magic" for me, rather than increased it. Pundits are kidding themselves if they suggest this weekend has been anything other than boring, it's been like an international break. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, MancWanderer said: He had Wheater, Dervite and Derik ahead of him with Holding (potentially) as well. With Lennon as manager You’re offered the chance to go to the US with the burgeoning football scene there, or do you sit in the academy of a club on a downward spiral hoping that maybe that you’ll get the call? Even if your dad gets the chance to be caretaker with no chance of being offered the big job Not a difficult choice really. Luck had it that the scousers has already seen the potential I can accept that Lennon might have wrongly thought he wasn't good enough. I can accept that he thought a scholarship in the US might have been a better option for him than signing a new contract with us (because there's a very good argument that it is). I can't accept that he left because he thought young players don't get opportunities, especially considering Holding also had Wheater, Derik and Dervite ahead of him yet still forced his way through to eventually win the Player of the Year award that season. Also don't forget, it was Lennon who found a regular starting position for Vela at right-back, and it was Lennon who gave both Clough and Holding their debuts. Quote
Alf Hartigan Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, MancWanderer said: Couldn’t see any chance of making it from the academy into the first team. I think (and I may be wrong) that his contract was up and he had the opportunity to go the USA and attend university over there on a “soccer” scholarship so he took it thinking of the bigger picture At the last minute, as he was about to go, Liverpool came in and said that they wanted him so he cancelled the USA and went there. Jimmy had no influence - told him that it was his choice so he chose to go to the scousers (bit of a family tie there!!) It was the classic situation at the time (and still is now at most clubs now) explained to me by Marc Bircham when I met him on holiday a few years ago. You have good players in the academy but the manager knows he is only likely to be there for a couple of years so spunks money on “proven” players because he knows that he won’t have time to develop players out of the academy. Said good players either drift out of the game or head to the lower leagues Chelsea’s situation this year has highlighted just how many good players there are that wouldn’t normally get a chance but give it to them and fuck me they are actually quite good No blame on anyone such as Jimmy re Nat. It’s the modern world of football which is totally fucked up thanks to the money from TV. Nat’s been lucky This completely emphasises why we will come across quality at lower leagues, so many good players out there that don't make it. Quote
MancWanderer Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I can accept that Lennon might have wrongly thought he wasn't good enough. I can accept that he thought a scholarship in the US might have been a better option for him than signing a new contract with us (because there's a very good argument that it is). I can't accept that he left because he thought young players don't get opportunities, especially considering Holding also had Wheater, Derik and Dervite ahead of him yet still forced his way through to eventually win the Player of the Year award that season. Also don't forget, it was Lennon who found a regular starting position for Vela at right-back, and it was Lennon who gave both Clough and Holding their debuts. OK not going to get into an argument with you about what was going on during Lennon’s reign. Your thoughts and mine are both valid. We’ll leave it at that. He left. And is now at probably the best team in Europe. Boltonian born and bred. Hope he makes the step up and I wish him all the best Quote
MancWanderer Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Alf Hartigan said: This completely emphasises why we will come across quality at lower leagues, so many good players out there that don't make it. We will. Hopefully. So long as we have the scouts that spot them Quote
Biggish Dave Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Bring Gumbo back from the Aussie fires, he can make us great again Quote
Casino Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Jimmy Phillips had no worries about being accused of nepotism Not only was his son in the academy, his godson was there as well He'd be 20/21 now And isn't playing for liverpool Edited January 5, 2020 by Casino Quote
Steejay Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Arsenal are awful Holding stinking the place out. Quote
radcliffe white Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Steejay said: Holding stinking the place out. Leeds need to take chances Quote
radcliffe white Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Arteta rocking the Keith look A greasy Keith Quote
radcliffe white Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Wolves fans are talking of boycotting next weeks replay at United adults £37-47 & it’s live on bt Quote
Duck Egg Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Roger's just kicked his telly screen in! Quote
Marc505 Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Tyler actually sounds devastated, he's basically whispering as the teams come off 😂 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Roger's just kicked his telly screen in! Eccles is going to be wrecked later. Quote
MalcolmW Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Eccles is going to be wrecked later. Port Vale are already there. Quote
Guest Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 There’s a phrase about you can’t win a tie in the first leg, but can lose it. What about the first half of the first leg? Quote
Duck Egg Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 I just hope they dont take their foot of Utds throat and get about 5 Quote
snowball Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Guvnors all over Old Trafford. Rodge a no show. Stopped off in Eccles first i hear. Please make it at least six Quote
deane koontz Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Tyler actually sounds devastated, he's basically whispering as the teams come off 😂 He sounds like a broken man. God awful commentator Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Can't sell all their tickets for a league cup semi. And a derby at that. Not just us then Quote
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