tomski Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 It wouldn't surprise me if the government and EU bore us all in to submission by dragging this out. May and co are a bunch of imbeciles and the EU has anything about them, they will wipe the floor with us. I suspect they won't and shit deals all around for all Quote
Ani Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Tories agreed to a referendum Tories led campaign to Remain Tories lost referendum Tory leader resigned Tory in fighting left May in charge Tories call a snap election Tories lose overall control Tories can not form an effective government Tory in fighting has started again I am seeing a theme here. People who said before the vote leaving would have an adverse affect on the economy are still saying the same. In many ways the big fuck off to the political parties of the Leave vote fills me with pride that people can not be pushed around, I just wish it had been on a much less serious subject. What do people think the Chancellore and Governor of the Bank of England who said before the vote it would fuck the economy up in the short, medium and long term do now ? Just pretend they never said that. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 That chancellor is history, gone writing for a paper and taking his directorships more seriously. MPs etc will have made statements based on their own belief and backed them up with statements of doom and gloom should they not get their way. May was a weak remained, but now the vote has been cast, its incumbent upon her and the government to achieve the best deal possible under the circumstances, irrespective of their own opinions. As for the brexit vote; whoever was in power was going to have to do it sooner or later, to halt the rise of ukip. Quote
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 That chancellor is history, gone writing for a paper and taking his directorships more seriously. MPs etc will have made statements based on their own belief and backed them up with statements of doom and gloom should they not get their way. May was a weak remained, but now the vote has been cast, its incumbent upon her and the government to achieve the best deal possible under the circumstances, irrespective of their own opinions. As for the brexit vote; whoever was in power was going to have to do it sooner or later, to halt the rise of ukip. May was quite an ardent remainer, especially in private. She played a political game of staying on the edge of it. Saw an opportunity to lead. Sadly as with everything she does it is purely for her own self interest and always to the detriment of the country. Quote
miamiwhite Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 And ISIS on their deluded Night of Power blow up the iconic mosque in Mosul. ISIS have blamed the Yanks but Iraqi security forces confirm it was ISIS. Quote
Escobarp Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Nobody is asking you to vote in anyway. You stated that you couldn't vote for either major party due to major flaws yet you voted for a party who want to ignore a dmeoncratic vote. My point was and is that is a massive flaw yet you still voted for it. On the point of may being a remainer yes she was. But then the country voted and she as elected leader of the Tory party who were and remain in power had and has a job to do. What did you want her to say?? Quote
Escobarp Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 May was quite an ardent remainer, especially in private. She played a political game of staying on the edge of it. Saw an opportunity to lead. Sadly as with everything she does it is purely for her own self interest and always to the detriment of the country. Yep. The 5m to the green fell tower fund is for her own benefit and to the detriment of the country. We get your anti may and anti Tory and anti brexit Quote
kent_white Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 On the point of may being a remainer yes she was. But then the country voted and she as elected leader of the Tory party who were and remain in power had and has a job to do. What did you want her to say?? You mean a bit like Jeremy Corbyn being opposed to nuclear weapons but his party voting to renew Trident? That kind of thing? Quote
Escobarp Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Not sure I was talking about corbyn in addressing that point really Kent it was a point about Theresa may. He had no choice but to say it would be renewed. What was he to do alienate even more of his party and potentially large numbers of voters by saying he would scrap it? He's not that stupid. He said he would renew it but there would be a review. As he doesn't believe in it and refuses to back it. That's his prerogative but if he had his way it would be scrapped. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 You mean a bit like Jeremy Corbyn being opposed to nuclear weapons but his party voting to renew Trident? That kind of thing? Not really. If he becomes pm, and a referendum votes to keep them, then he goes along with it. Unless I'm missing something. Quote
gonzo Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 http://www.youtu.be/0umZZXRe4h8 A much more balanced interview with Tommy Robinson. I've been his biggest critic but he comes across pretty well here imo. Can't argue with a lot of it. Quote
MalcolmW Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Not really. If he becomes pm, and a referendum votes to keep them, then he goes along with it. Unless I'm missing something. But when he gives the sealed instructions to the submarine commanders they will say "DON'T FIRE!". Quote
radcliffe white Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 http://www.youtu.be/0umZZXRe4h8 A much more balanced interview with Tommy Robinson. I've been his biggest critic but he comes across pretty well here imo. Can't argue with a lot of it. just shows you get a decent interviewer and you can have a decent debate without shouting match unlike that arse wipe Morgan Quote
miamiwhite Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Some crackering points made by this gorgeous Muslim babe https://mobile.twitter.com/ShireenQudosi Quote
jules_darby Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 I voted Lib Dem. Couldn't vote for either main party as both had major flaws in their policies. Given how incompetent this government is, giving them a big majority would have clearly left us in an even weaker position.My take on it was similar and I did that last time, but I thought the Lib dems were equally as wanky on this occasion so I didn't vote Felt bad for it but I literally had nobody that I felt represented me Shame that innit Quote
Zico Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 http://www.youtu.be/0umZZXRe4h8 A much more balanced interview with Tommy Robinson. I've been his biggest critic but he comes across pretty well here imo. Can't argue with a lot of it. He makes points most can agree with He doesn't though seem to like being challenged and I reckon the guy from longsight was probably underestimating the muslim community at 40% round his way, I reckon it's more He did keep saying he's been warning about these things happening for years but I'm still not clear what hes proposing we do about it or could've done Though it did keep flashing up with a link to closedidsburymosque.com which I don't think is the answer Quote
Guest Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 My take on it was similar and I did that last time, but I thought the Lib dems were equally as wanky on this occasion so I didn't vote Felt bad for it but I literally had nobody that I felt represented me Shame that innit Oh I was the same. Lib Dems were not ideal, just best of a bad bunch. I'm sick of the nonsense on social media and elsewhere between the "left" and "right" in this country. Truly embarrassing. Quote
madthatter Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 That chancellor is history, gone writing for a paper and taking his directorships more seriously. MPs etc will have made statements based on their own belief and backed them up with statements of doom and gloom should they not get their way. May was a weak remained, but now the vote has been cast, its incumbent upon her and the government to achieve the best deal possible under the circumstances, irrespective of their own opinions. As for the brexit vote; whoever was in power was going to have to do it sooner or later, to halt the rise of ukip. I know it's been done to death but the fact that this approach/duty is even being questioned is bizarre and shows, to my mind, just how much we are dictated to by politicians rather than them being dictated to by us . . . the people who elect them. Democracy my arse Quote
madthatter Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 He makes points most can agree with He doesn't though seem to like being challenged and I reckon the guy from longsight was probably underestimating the muslim community at 40% round his way, I reckon it's more He did keep saying he's been warning about these things happening for years but I'm still not clear what hes proposing we do about it or could've done Though it did keep flashing up with a link to closedidsburymosque.com which I don't think is the answer Doesn't do himself any favours with his 'branding' does he? What the Muslim caller says is telling re. ideas and beliefs within British Muslim communities. That does need addressing not denied or laughed off. The point TR makes about if it was Christians acting like this is telling . . . well they did, 100's of years ago. Be interesting to see how the world/UK would deal with that today. I suppose the US has seen similar issues over the years from within Christianity? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Isn't that the point now? The crusades were terrible and hopefully confined to history. Sadly we're revisiting similar times by people that can't or won't adapt to a modern world. Just give them a caliphate somewhere away from everyone where they can get on with out-terrorising arch other. Leave them to it. Come down hard if they step outside. Quote
Ani Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Isn't that the point now? The crusades were terrible and hopefully confined to history. Sadly we're revisiting similar times by people that can't or won't adapt to a modern world. Just give them a caliphate somewhere away from everyone where they can get on with out-terrorising arch other. Leave them to it. Come down hard if they step outside. Well away from all the oil I assume ? Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Isn't that the point now? The crusades were terrible and hopefully confined to history. Sadly we're revisiting similar times by people that can't or won't adapt to a modern world. Just give them a caliphate somewhere away from everyone where they can get on with out-terrorising arch other. Leave them to it. Come down hard if they step outside. Just make sure they dont have oil there tho. Quote
madthatter Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Isn't that the point now? The crusades were terrible and hopefully confined to history. Sadly we're revisiting similar times by people that can't or won't adapt to a modern world. Just give them a caliphate somewhere away from everyone where they can get on with out-terrorising arch other. Leave them to it. Come down hard if they step outside. Preaching to the converted here Although I think it needs pulling out by the root or it will never go away - much like the allies did with Nazism; it's the only way, I reckon. Quote
madthatter Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Well away from all the oil I assume ? Yes, that is quite unfortunate . . . Quote
Morizio Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Australia would be a fine place to create a caliphate Quote
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