Mutley Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 17:08, Spider said: Can't argue with the response of the NATO allies so far. But it's all in vain. Vlad can't back down now. Said it for ages, but Ukraine isn't his main prize. Nothing to do with money either, pure Soviet land grab. NATO think sanctions will deter Putin? I can’t actually fault the actual nato response with regards to troop mobilisation however. What do you think the main objective of Vlads game are? Genuinely interested to hear as don’t really buy into the soviet land grab spiel. until next time. mutley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Short odds on China to invade Taiwan on the same day Russia invades Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jmjhb Posted February 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, Blondi said: Short odds on China to invade Taiwan on the same day Russia invades Ukraine. Two Taiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 minute ago, jmjhb said: Two Taiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Some reckon he wont wont to upstage Jim Pong or whatever his name is. Think a lot of people underestimate Chinas backing in all this. They're madder than the Ruskis. Stick em together and itll go fucking nuts. Sure Russia thought Ukraine would haved by now. There's ways to win a war without firing a bullet. I do wonder if all the international condemnation and effort to back and supply Ukraine took Putin by surprise a bit, but such a gigantic build up of troops and equipment doesn't happen for nothing and they can't stay mobilised like that forever needing constant supply of fuel, food, repairs, motivation etc so somethings got to give one way or the other. I'd hope that would mean de-escalation but it would represent a massive climb down from Putin and I'm not sure he wants to lose face in such a way. NATO's symbolic mass build up continues with fully armed US fighter jets from Lakenheath and Germany heading to Poland and Romania but that was to be expected really, they'll not be shooting anything down. (8 B-52's arrived in the UK yesterday too which was some sight.) There's still no way "we" wade into any conflict in Ukraine apart from supplying weapons etc and Putin knows that. As long as he keeps his war limited to that country, then he gets to show how big and strong his Russia has become again, whilst also avoiding annihilation by NATO. As for China, they're a whole other problem 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Spider said: Putin is mentle Can’t emphasise enough just how much his legacy means to him. And he’s not got many years left at the top, so the clock is ticking. He can’t lose face now. Are you working for Russia Today? He's a big gaylord, he's a self-loathing bender who's had plastic surgery like a vain pufter, legacy my arse, he'll be deader than Peter Falk if he jeopardises some oligarchs' investments, he has receptive gay sex with MEN. He has herpes up his arse. He had an affair with Nigel Farage and he was the bitch. He's a dead duck fuck. He's also a dope-shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Marc505 said: I do wonder if all the international condemnation and effort to back and supply Ukraine took Putin by surprise a bit, but such a gigantic build up of troops and equipment doesn't happen for nothing and they can't stay mobilised like that forever needing constant supply of fuel, food, repairs, motivation etc so somethings got to give one way or the other. I'd hope that would mean de-escalation but it would represent a massive climb down from Putin and I'm not sure he wants to lose face in such a way. NATO's symbolic mass build up continues with fully armed US fighter jets from Lakenheath and Germany heading to Poland and Romania but that was to be expected really, they'll not be shooting anything down. (8 B-52's arrived in the UK yesterday too which was some sight.) There's still no way "we" wade into any conflict in Ukraine apart from supplying weapons etc and Putin knows that. As long as he keeps his war limited to that country, then he gets to show how big and strong his Russia has become again, whilst also avoiding annihilation by NATO. As for China, they're a whole other problem 😬 I think Ukraine will bottle it diplomatically. Either by force or their own people not wanting conflict with the big cunt next door. Government will topple under pressure and the new bods promise not to join Nato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 12, 2022 Moderators Share Posted February 12, 2022 My guess and its based on little other than speaking to a few ukranians years and years ago, who would be pushing 100 now, is that they wouldnt roll over and would literally fight to the death Maybe the new generation are different, no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted February 12, 2022 Author Members Share Posted February 12, 2022 26 minutes ago, Casino said: My guess and its based on little other than speaking to a few ukranians years and years ago, who would be pushing 100 now, is that they wouldnt roll over and would literally fight to the death Maybe the new generation are different, no idea Some general said they were willing to go until every drop of blood hits the ground. Saddle up boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannyroader Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Russkis called their embassy staff back from Kiev. What time does Superbowl kick off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Casino said: My guess and its based on little other than speaking to a few ukranians years and years ago, who would be pushing 100 now, is that they wouldnt roll over and would literally fight to the death Maybe the new generation are different, no idea Exactly this. Repeated articles with ordinary working people helping man trenches, training with weapons etc. They also have a very large military and are being supplied and trained with modern equipment. Certainly no roll over for Putin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Casino said: My guess and its based on little other than speaking to a few ukranians years and years ago, who would be pushing 100 now, is that they wouldnt roll over and would literally fight to the death Maybe the new generation are different, no idea Might be different when they start Novichocking kids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 i cant see it Happening Bombing city's and Tanks Rolling in to towns and the World just sits back and watches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, little whitt said: i cant see it Happening Bombing city's and Tanks Rolling in to towns and the World just sits back and watches The Russians shot down a passenger jet full of civilians. The world simply had an enquiry in Holland. Britain elected Boris Johnson as its leader. An invasion wouldn’t surprise me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Spider said: The Russians shot down a passenger jet full of civilians. The world simply had an enquiry in Holland. Britain elected Boris Johnson as its leader. An invasion wouldn’t surprise me at all. Not to mention the inadvertent murder of a British Civilian on British soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 hours ago, little whitt said: i cant see it Happening Bombing city's and Tanks Rolling in to towns and the World just sits back and watches Theres more to war than that. All about forcing the Ukraine government to bottle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2022 Ukraine will fire the first bullet in reaction to the build up of Russian forces and Russia will treat this as an act of aggression and fire back. This will allow Putin to declare Ukraine were the aggressors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Spider said: The Russians shot down a passenger jet full of civilians. The world simply had an enquiry in Holland. Britain elected Boris Johnson as its leader. An invasion wouldn’t surprise me at all. Turkey shot down a Russian fighter, and Putin did fuck all. As for Russian downing of passenger aircraft, its quite good that the world doesn't just go all out in the immediate aftermath isn't it? It's not the only time- have a read about Korean Airlines 007, there is an excellent film about it too. Explains a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted February 13, 2022 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2022 Seriously how close is war between these two What implications will it have on the rest of the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 13, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2022 It's not looking good is it? I just hope that we in the west sanction the shite out of them regardless of how much we need their gas and it ends up backfiring on the poisoned dwarf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Scary times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 13, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Seriously how close is war between these two What implications will it have on the rest of the world? It's a tinder box waiting for the tiniest spark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Seriously how close is war between these two What implications will it have on the rest of the world? Can’t see it happening. Putin isn’t so mental. I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, Cheese said: It's a tinder box waiting for the tiniest spark. Especially a spark of the false flag kind, it's been made clear to the Russians that they're under close watch for trying anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Russia can’t afford sanctions from the west therefore I don’t think they’ll invade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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