Luton Town (H)

[gonzo]

25 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Maghoma has something none of our midfielders have with his dribbling and ball carrying skills. It's just a case of him learning the best time and place to release the ball. Which will come with time. We need an option of the unpredictable to our system at times!

Exaclty this.

As Casino points out...look at Barnsley last season.

Hes got what we lost in Dapo and will play where hes told instead of being a sulky chops

[Mounts Kipper]

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Exaclty this.

As Casino points out...look at Barnsley last season.

Hes got what we lost in Dapo and will play where hes told instead of being a sulky chops

He is nowhere near Dapo levels yet, if Evatt thinks he gets close to Dapo in terms of ability then happy to trust Evatt on this. 

[Dr. Feelgood]

Rob Edwards, about Evatt's Bolton. Sounds like a 'Plan B' to me.

"“He had a great plan and it did cause us problems. They missed the press out, because they knew we were going to press aggressively, and looked to try to link in the front and run off our midfield players. They were a real threat on the counter-attack".

[gonzo]

Aye its almost as if hes learning whilst plying his trade. Who'd have thought eh?

Pig headed, arrogant, no plan b was it?

[jeep]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye its almost as if hes learning whilst plying his trade. Who'd have thought eh?

Pig headed, arrogant, no plan b was it?

It's took him long enough....

The thick, pig headed, arrogant cunt....

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, jeep said:

It's took him long enough....

The thick, pig headed, arrogant cunt....

And we lost!

I think Gonzo is dead right- any manager in any walk of life will learn from there experiences. Football is no different. 

Whatever he's doing, on the whole it's working pretty well!

[jeep]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

And we lost!

I think Gonzo is dead right- any manager in any walk of life will learn from there experiences. Football is no different. 

Whatever he's doing, on the whole it's working pretty well!

I didn't mind us losing. We played well...

[Tonge moor green jacket]

13 minutes ago, jeep said:

I didn't mind us losing. We played well...

We did.

[woolli]

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Exaclty this.

As Casino points out...look at Barnsley last season.

Hes got what we lost in Dapo and will play where hes told instead of being a sulky chops

Cant lace Dapos boots, but as time on his side.

[desperado]

I like how he used the 2nd half as a free hit to experiment with the back line too. And it worked.

We looked better with Iredale as LCB and Toal as RCB 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 minutes ago, desperado said:

I like how he used the 2nd half as a free hit to experiment with the back line too. And it worked.

We looked better with Iredale as LCB and Toal as RCB 

I sense that that will be the set up at Orient. It wasn't an experiment, as Forrester has a hamstring concern.

Comments from Evatt in the BN- I can't help reading into it that he may be missing for a game or two.

[Biggish Dave]

I just assumed Forrester went off as he was on a yellow or to put Iredale on to protect Ashworth more with him being naturally left sided.

Ashworth had a very decent game too

[Eddie]

I like Forrester, he hasn’t put a foot wrong and I think he’s a fantastic signing and one who has the potential to play higher, especially considering his age and relative inexperience. There’s no doubt that Toal is better on the right side than the left though and I think he has to take preference in that position. Iredale has his limitations, but I think being left footed he’s probably the best option at LCB and actually his long range passing is really effective.

Not a bad sign though when you’re having to leave good players out, same with our midfield 3 at the moment as well.

[Zico]

I did like Toals run up the right for the disallowed goal

[Eddie]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

I did like Toals run up the right for the disallowed goal

What about Santos flying up the wing!? It was like watching a right footed Ricky G (no sickening intended).

He even drew the foul like a winger 😂

[RUREADY2ROLL]

54 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

I just assumed Forrester went off as he was on a yellow or to put Iredale on to protect Ashworth more with him being naturally left sided.

Ashworth had a very decent game too

Ashworth pass to Cogley gifted them the equaliser- he did have a good second half though. Not sure who left the guy who scored their tap in winner but it was Ashworth marking him most of the game

[Biggish Dave]

1 minute ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

Ashworth pass to Cogley gifted them the equaliser- he did have a good second half though. Not sure who left the guy who scored their tap in winner but it was Ashworth marking him most of the game

Ashworth was put under pressure himself by Sheehan I think it was. Fancying about at the back like we do.

Santos got beaten by Morris for the winner, should stop the cross at source

[Eddie]

6 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Ashworth was put under pressure himself by Sheehan I think it was. Fancying about at the back like we do.

Santos got beaten by Morris for the winner, should stop the cross at source

I thought that at the time, but watching the replay I don’t think you can blame Rico.

He’s tight to him and just gets done by a burst of pace and the lad gets a good cross away before Rico can recover. If anything it was just an example of that extra bit of quality that teams in higher leagues have, he won’t come up against any forward that can do that against him in the league and I actually thought for the rest of the game he was brilliant against their forwards.

[Traf]

12 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Ashworth was put under pressure himself by Sheehan I think it was. Fancying about at the back like we do.

Santos got beaten by Morris for the winner, should stop the cross at source

I thought Rico got rolled too easily for the goal an his attempt to block the cross looked a bit lame.

[FrancisFogarty]

10 minutes ago, Traf said:

I thought Rico got rolled too easily for the goal an his attempt to block the cross looked a bit lame.

I agree, against a decent side (and they were a decent side) he sometimes gets shown to be a good L1 defender. Even considering his excellent run.

I've just watched the highlights on BBC and I hadn't realised how close that shot from the half way line was. A great performance which could have gone either way had we had a bit of good fortune.

VAR is shit too. It favours the Prem league clubs when they are against 'minnows'. It's either in or it's out in a cup tie.

Edited January 17, 2024 by FrancisFogarty

[Traf]

1 minute ago, FrancisFogarty said:

I agree, against a decent side (and they were a decent side) he sometimes gets shown to be a good L1 defender. Even considering his excellent run.

I've just watched the highlights on BBC and I hadn't realised how close that shot from the half way line was. A great performance which could have gone either way had we had a bit of good fortune.

A fairer set of officials might have helped too.

I've no issue with the goal being chalked off, just the manner of it, but other decisions went against us all night.Blatant fouls not given for us , but soft ones for them, the corner given when Toal was nowhere near, the foul on Jerome near the end where the defender was dragging him around and so on.

 

[FrancisFogarty]

2 minutes ago, Traf said:

A fairer set of officials might have helped too.

I've no issue with the goal being chalked off, just the manner of it, but other decisions went against us all night.Blatant fouls not given for us , but soft ones for them, the corner given when Toal was nowhere near, the foul on Jerome near the end where the defender was dragging him around and so on.

 

I edited my post to add that VAR should either be in or out in a cup tie. You can't change the rules half way through. It always will favour the Prem.

[FrancisFogarty]

2 minutes ago, FrancisFogarty said:

I edited my post to add that VAR should either be in or out in a cup tie. You can't change the rules half way through. It always will favour the Prem.

See, we got Prem rules and L1 officials.

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

I like Forrester, he hasn’t put a foot wrong and I think he’s a fantastic signing and one who has the potential to play higher, especially considering his age and relative inexperience. There’s no doubt that Toal is better on the right side than the left though and I think he has to take preference in that position. Iredale has his limitations, but I think being left footed he’s probably the best option at LCB and actually his long range passing is really effective.

Not a bad sign though when you’re having to leave good players out, same with our midfield 3 at the moment as well.

Yes, agree with that.  Iredale's passing seems to be underrated, but he's got those long passes in his locker that most others don't have.  The pass to Tomo last night was similar to the one that created Sheehan's goal v Stevenage, superb.  He's also a threat at corners (similar to Toal) which is a useful quality we aren't very blessed with.  For me he'd be LWB more often than not but IE obviously prefers Williams.

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said:

Ashworth was put under pressure himself by Sheehan I think it was. Fancying about at the back like we do.

Santos got beaten by Morris for the winner, should stop the cross at source

Yes I thought that was unusually half hearted by Santos, not sure if he thought it would be an easy block but not sure why he didn't throw himself at that cross, the danger was obvious.

Ashworth is comfortable on the ball, composed and able to pick a pass.  But he looks like he's playing within himself, there doesn't seem to be any devil or anger in him, its all a bit casual.  The pass to Cogley was unnecessarily risky but not enough for him to be blamed for the goal, Cogley shouldn't have been coughing up possession so easily.  There was still plenty to do to be fair and overall our defending was weak on that occasion.