Mansfield Town (H)

[wakey]

4 hours ago, matty2094 said:

 

I get the horrible feeling Evatt's trying to build a bit of a siege mentality but in the wrong way - "it's us against the fans".

 

Admittedly based on relatively little apart from the odd keep-the-receipts type comments. And this isn't the first celebration that's felt like a bit of a fuck you to the knockers (fnarr fnarr) rather than celebrating with the supporters.

I reckon he'll be inviting Neil Whatmore back pre Wigan to give us the Vs again.

 

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Stig said:

No they don't - they play 4231.

That gives more options ahead of Sheehan in midfield rather than the big gap we have to the 3 strikers.

Listen pal. Don't contradict me - I'm a football genius 😁

What did we play last night? 5 2 2 1? 5 2 3?

[desperado]

2 hours ago, barrycowdrill said:

The whole switching of the wing backs is still baffling me. 
 

I thought the whole principle of having wing backs was to give you balance and width in order to get them in to dangerous positions where they can put the ball in the box. 
 

however, alls last night did was force a team already obsessed with ignoring that option and coming back inside even more reason to narrow the pitch and come back inside because even if the wing backs wanted to deliver the ball in they wanted it on their favoured foot.. 

hardly coincidental that our 2nd goal came from the wingback on his correct side going down the outside and putting the ball across… 

Me too

I said the same thing to @CSW last night while we were watching. 

I’m open to the fact that there are a few on here who thought it looked ok and IE has given some mumbo-jumbo to justify it, even though it’s only something post Cambridge he’s looked at, so let’s see if it has any legs.

It helps when you have someone like Tutu who looks two-footed

[wakey]

Reet ... only saw the first half * but a few comments based on that and some of the stick one or two players have been getting.

Vic - missed a very presentable chance - although I'd argue Geth's header was more embarrassing - but I thought he had probably his best game as a (sort of) hold up target man. Didn't win much in the air, but the plan was clearly to leave space in front, play the ball to drop close to Vic and Vic to hold the bloke off while he - ahem - controlled it. Actually worked out 2 or 3 times and set up some decent moves. Almost like they'd been working on it ... brings me to

 

Evatt - I think the bloke's a busted flush and there are potentially other issues there too BUT at times there was clear evidence that there was a plan, it was a slightly different plan, and that they'd been working on it. Of course, there was also chunks of the game where we defaulted to this seasons usual "have-this-lot-ever-fucking-met-each-other-before",  but we were clearly trying different things. 

Of course, you can argue that the plan was shit or that the 'inverted' wing-backs made us weaker defensively - e.g. their goal - but you also saw glimpses of its potential, particularly with the first time balls down the line that set up some of our best moves. Also thought JDC had his best game offensively for a while. So begrudging credit for trying something different (the inflexible tosser).

Collins - as mentioned, absolute bobbins, but I think this is a man-management issue, same with Charles. Could of course turn out they're just a pair of wrong uns, but given the amount we've spent think I'd rather assume it's the first issue as it's easier to fix.

And ... already too long, so I'll shut up.

 

 

 

* thank you Brittany ferries

[Tonge moor green jacket]

33 minutes ago, Zico said:

you still missed a sitter you twat footed minge and whatever the NSL shouted at you for it was justified

Can understand his reaction, and can understand the fans' too when he missed the through ball by the defender.

Play well, win and all will come together. 

[Stig]

28 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Listen pal. Don't contradict me - I'm a football genius 😁

What did we play last night? 5 2 2 1? 5 2 3?

God knows what we're playing most of the time 😂

[Ani]

Collins is really poor.

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Dp1B3N7rR/?mibextid=WC7FNe

[ianofcleveleys]

17 minutes ago, desperado said:

Me too

I said the same thing to @CSW last night while we were watching. 

I’m open to the fact that there are a few on here who thought it looked ok and IE has given some mumbo-jumbo to justify it, even though it’s only something post Cambridge he’s looked at, so let’s see if it has any legs.

It helps when you have someone like Tutu who looks two-footed

There's a difference between what the likes of City or Arsenal do, with inverted wingers in a 4-3-3 and what our football sage was trying to do last night with inverted wing backs. The inverted wingers give the option of going inside to open up space for the overlapping full back or taking a shot themselves, or going on the outside themselves, as the likes of Saka are so good at 

Inverted wing backs, in front of our back 3, with only two in midfield, was hugely dangerous, opening up both of the WBs, especially Schon, to being taken on and beaten down the outside (their wrong side), which duly happened in the first 20 mins and eventually for the goal. It also nullified all the genuine threat Schon had been giving down the left, especially in the second half v Blackpool. I felt for him in particular, as the whole exercise threw him under a bus

It looked a bit better with Tutu and Williams, more two-footed and balanced, but they were a man short and beating a retreat by then, so zero threat to us defensively.

Against decent sides with good wide men it's a recipe for a pasting

 

[Eddie]

Forget formation, personnel, the fact we managed to score a couple of goals against 10 man Mansfield Town in a 15 minute spell.

Did anyone watch that last night (and most games recently) and think there’s a plan, a way of playing, patterns of play, a coordinated press, higher levels of fitness than the opponent?

They’re all the things we used to pride ourselves on, but we came unstuck sometimes because we’re a bunch of fairies. There’s fuck all now. It’s a guessing game. Players look like they have absolutely no idea what they’re meant to do when they get the ball and more often than not it ends with a panicked lump down field by Baxter (usually nowhere near his target, and the target is not a big bastard targetman which would make it slightly less frustrating).

Of course recent results make everything look rosey, but success this season is promotion and promotion only, and beating the likes of Crawley and Northampton, or managing to scrape past Mansfield once they’d gone down to 10 men is far from an indicator that we will be good enough to achieve promotion.

Without significant change this team is not getting promoted, whether that’s at the top, or via a player reshuffle in Jan I don’t know, but clinging onto “pick up results when you’re shit and just wait until you come good” isn’t cutting it, because this team in its current state is not coming good.

Edited December 4, 2024 by Eddie

[Eavesy]

12 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Forget formation, personnel, the fact we managed to score a couple of goals against 10 man Mansfield Town in a 15 minute spell.

Did anyone watch that last night (and most games recently) and think there’s a plan, a way of playing, patterns of play, a coordinated press, higher levels of fitness than the opponent?

They’re all the things we used to pride ourselves on, but we came unstuck sometimes because we’re a bunch of fairies. There’s fuck all now. It’s a guessing game. Players look like they have absolutely no idea what they’re meant to do when they get the ball and more often than not it ends with a panicked lump down field by Baxter (usually nowhere near his target, and the target is not a big bastard targetman which would make it slightly less frustrating).

Of course recent results make everything look rosey, but success this season is promotion and promotion only, and beating the likes of Crawley and Northampton, or managing to scrape past Mansfield once they’d gone down to 10 men is far from an indicator that we will be good enough to achieve promotion.

Without significant change this team is not getting promoted, whether that’s at the top, or via a player reshuffle in Jan I don’t know, but clinging onto “pick up results when you’re shit and just wait until you come good” isn’t cutting it, because this team in its current state is not coming good.

Absolutely bang on.

[gonzo]

We won lads

[Krimzon]

2 hours ago, Gonk said:

Two footed?

Can ambidextrous be used for feet as well as hands?

Yes .

The word originally meant both-favourable or both dominant .  

There is also something called Cross dominant ambidexterity  Goalkeeper Gianluca Pagliuca would throw the ball righthanded and kick left footed.  Girl I worked with wrote left handed but was right handed for everything else. 

Ronnie O'Sullivan is 100% ambidextrous and it affects less than 1% of the population . It can be learned tho as seen in people who lose a dominant limb. 

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Collins is really poor.

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Dp1B3N7rR/?mibextid=WC7FNe

Sums up the season in terms of consistency 

He was fucking dreadful last night

[CambridgeBWFC]

10 minutes ago, Krimzon said:

Yes .

The word originally meant both-favourable or both dominant .  

There is also something called Cross dominant ambidexterity  Goalkeeper Gianluca Pagliuca would throw the ball righthanded and kick left footed.  Girl I worked with wrote left handed but was right handed for everything else. 

Ronnie O'Sullivan is 100% ambidextrous and it affects less than 1% of the population . It can be learned tho as seen in people who lose a dominant limb. 

Can you be ambidextrous if you have lost a limb?

[tomski]

16 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

Can you be ambidextrous if you have lost a limb?

Suppose it can’t be disproved😂

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

37 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

Can you be ambidextrous if you have lost a limb?

It depends how well you can write with a stump

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Krimzon said:

Yes .

The word originally meant both-favourable or both dominant .  

There is also something called Cross dominant ambidexterity  Goalkeeper Gianluca Pagliuca would throw the ball righthanded and kick left footed.  Girl I worked with wrote left handed but was right handed for everything else. 

Ronnie O'Sullivan is 100% ambidextrous and it affects less than 1% of the population . It can be learned tho as seen in people who lose a dominant limb. 

I'm right handed, but left footed.

That said, I'm happy to use my right foot, though not very good with it.

I also clean my teeth with my left hand, and use a spade left handed.

Weird.

[FrancisFogarty]

On 29/11/2024 at 19:34, Zico said:

Special night under the lights 

5-0

50/1

Zico shmico. Another one bites the dust. 

[Bob Carolgees]

7 hours ago, matty2094 said:

 

That's the temple touch/head point gesture and the masonic vow of silence.

They always show you.  This week and every other week.

Other favourites are the pontiff, the owl & most of all the a-okay sign, which really means three sixes (666).

All pro footballers are masons.  No exceptions.

And they all laugh their heads off as the profane/vile (normal people) idolise them, make them wealthy and join in their increasing number of energy harvesting rituals.

 

 

[Zico]

19 minutes ago, FrancisFogarty said:

Zico shmico. Another one bites the dust. 

It comes in at least once a session

[Mounts Kipper]

3 hours ago, Eddie said:

Forget formation, personnel, the fact we managed to score a couple of goals against 10 man Mansfield Town in a 15 minute spell.

Did anyone watch that last night (and most games recently) and think there’s a plan, a way of playing, patterns of play, a coordinated press, higher levels of fitness than the opponent?

They’re all the things we used to pride ourselves on, but we came unstuck sometimes because we’re a bunch of fairies. There’s fuck all now. It’s a guessing game. Players look like they have absolutely no idea what they’re meant to do when they get the ball and more often than not it ends with a panicked lump down field by Baxter (usually nowhere near his target, and the target is not a big bastard targetman which would make it slightly less frustrating).

Of course recent results make everything look rosey, but success this season is promotion and promotion only, and beating the likes of Crawley and Northampton, or managing to scrape past Mansfield once they’d gone down to 10 men is far from an indicator that we will be good enough to achieve promotion.

Without significant change this team is not getting promoted, whether that’s at the top, or via a player reshuffle in Jan I don’t know, but clinging onto “pick up results when you’re shit and just wait until you come good” isn’t cutting it, because this team in its current state is not coming good.

Why aren’t we getting promoted? Did you see Derby and Oxford last season, both were average, we smashed 5 past Oxford and best Derby at home,  there is no conclusive proof that we won’t or can’t be promoted… it’s league 1 in general teams are inconsistent and a bit shit. We’re going up. 

Edited December 4, 2024 by Mounts Kipper

[gonzo]

6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Why aren’t we getting promoted? Did you see Derby and Oxford last season, both were average, we smashed 5 past Oxford and best Derby at home,  there is no conclusive proof that we won’t or can’t be promoted… it’s league 1 in general teams are inconsistent and a bit shit. We’re going up. 

Said it the other week, have a look across the league. Every team is crap.

Nobody is ripping up trees.

We just think we should be. We are heading into the abyss of the season. Shite weather, shit loads of fixtures and where shit hits the fan for everyone.

All about who comes out stronger the other side. Could well be us. 

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Why aren’t we getting promoted? Did you see Derby and Oxford last season, both were average, we smashed 5 past Oxford and best Derby at home,  there is no conclusive proof that we won’t or can’t be promoted… it’s league 1 in general teams are inconsistent and a bit shit. We’re going up. 

Love your optimism, fuck you even believe brexit will be good

Seriously, so, so preferable to the funsuckers who cant just enjoy a win

[Alf Hartigan]

Can’t see us making top two by any stretch. Just noticed Maghoma back on the bench for Brentford tonight btw.

[Casino]

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Said it the other week, have a look across the league. Every team is crap.

Nobody is ripping up trees.

We just think we should be. We are heading into the abyss of the season. Shite weather, shit loads of fixtures and where shit hits the fan for everyone.

All about who comes out stronger the other side. Could well be us. 

Its pretty clear we ended up unbalanced after a panic post Oxford

Sadly, this stupid transfer window nonsense means youre stuck with what you have

Its damage limitation til Jan and he hopefully adds a couple of mids and gets shut of a couple of squad fillers

Im looking at you forrester, arfield

Does anybody really think hed not swap them 2 for a couple of mobile mids?

Add in Toal and Dempsey (even Gomes but im wondering ig ee get him back) and we look strong again