Bristol Rovers (H)

[desperado]

4 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

No - just the usual trolls.

As for Tomo - he lived to play again. With so much at stake and with so few games left I don’t see a problem with players leaving everything on the pitch. TBH I expect it.

Which begs the question why don’t they put that degree of effort into every minute of every game? Especially at the start of games.

Not trolls M we’re all mates on here pal 😊 (usually) 

Think Iles sums it up quite nicely.

Don’t think anybody was saying it was a vintage performance.

But what I think you are missing, is that effort, attitude and application displays itself in many ways. And that’s not always 100 mile an hour from the beginning, translated into it free flowing football, crisp passing with clear cut chances being created, especially in a blood and thunder derby.

Sometimes, as it was on Tuesday, it needs grit, determination, resoluteness, no-nonsense defending. That was there from the beginning and throughout against Wigan. It would be nice if you could see and acknowledge that.

Maybe it was one of those where being there gave you a different perspective. 

For me, from minute one, there was a drive, commitment and physicality that hasn’t been there previously against these wankers. Not quality, but maximum effort from everybody.

That’s what was needed to win that game. 

Evatt was quite rightly criticised for his one dimensional approach to winning games. Last year’s away game and even one of the 4 nillers, we started really well, at it from the beginning, chances created (and missed), crisp passing. But then we folded because we didn’t show any of the qualities we displayed on Tuesday.

I think this utopia you are searching for of running around creating opportunities and sweeping teams aside “every minute of every game” is unrealistic. 

It’s not unrealistic to expect the players to be switched on and giving 100% effort every game. And they certainly did that on Tuesday and the proof was in the pudding.

SS looks like he’s adopting a horses for courses approach that Evatt never did. Different approaches, formations and tactics to win games.

Saturday could (and I expect will) be different. At home, not against a local team, a team I suspect won’t be in our faces. You may get to see the type of football you prefer.

But try not to get too disappointed if it turns into a scrappy, low quality utopian football experience, which ends up in a win again 😊

 

 

 

[Greg_BWFC]

2 hours ago, desperado said:

Not trolls M we’re all mates on here pal 😊 (usually) 

Think Iles sums it up quite nicely.

Don’t think anybody was saying it was a vintage performance.

But what I think you are missing, is that effort, attitude and application displays itself in many ways. And that’s not always 100 mile an hour from the beginning, translated into it free flowing football, crisp passing with clear cut chances being created, especially in a blood and thunder derby.

Sometimes, as it was on Tuesday, it needs grit, determination, resoluteness, no-nonsense defending. That was there from the beginning and throughout against Wigan. It would be nice if you could see and acknowledge that.

Maybe it was one of those where being there gave you a different perspective. 

For me, from minute one, there was a drive, commitment and physicality that hasn’t been there previously against these wankers. Not quality, but maximum effort from everybody.

That’s what was needed to win that game. 

Evatt was quite rightly criticised for his one dimensional approach to winning games. Last year’s away game and even one of the 4 nillers, we started really well, at it from the beginning, chances created (and missed), crisp passing. But then we folded because we didn’t show any of the qualities we displayed on Tuesday.

I think this utopia you are searching for of running around creating opportunities and sweeping teams aside “every minute of every game” is unrealistic. 

It’s not unrealistic to expect the players to be switched on and giving 100% effort every game. And they certainly did that on Tuesday and the proof was in the pudding.

SS looks like he’s adopting a horses for courses approach that Evatt never did. Different approaches, formations and tactics to win games.

Saturday could (and I expect will) be different. At home, not against a local team, a team I suspect won’t be in our faces. You may get to see the type of football you prefer.

But try not to get too disappointed if it turns into a scrappy, low quality utopian football experience, which ends up in a win again 😊

 

 

 

And wasn't the winner reminiscent of so many frustrating goals we've conceded ?

Lovely to be on the right side of it for a change 😀 

[tomski]

I hate winning as well. Crikey.  I’m failing to see the point of berating the performance. 
 

We should of beat Blackpool on performance and I know which game I preferred.

On another note been out with a Reading fan last night and that fella winning the court case is a real mess for them.

I don’t want to have financial eliminations as I think it’s shit. Could be messy for us as they seem to do well against the bigger sides.

[L/H White]

10 hours ago, Casino said:

Im no tactician and chat about formations bore me

But

What i saw was a very limited wigan team doing all they could to get in our faces and a bolton team struggling to cope

Bolton had no easy out ball so it ended up being 'dont concede' and in the end we got a break

No sign, for me, of any lack of effort

Id agree with that. 

It was more one time with no quality whatsoever and another (us) that looked petrified of losing to them again 

Edited April 4, 2025 by L/H White

[gonzo]

Some folk need to remember this is Division 3 football.

 

[Wanderlust]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Some folk need to remember this is Division 3 football.

 

Aye. I think my frustration with the performance stems from allowing Wigan to push back our midfield and creating a huge disconnect between them and the forwards - which I think was at the root of the misplaced passes and possession turnovers. At this level I don’t suppose we can expect too much of them - but that doesn’t mean fans shouldn’t see how things could be improved with the players we have. 
 

Anyhoo on to Bristol tomorrow whose manager said last week after the Brum match that has his team were better than the best team in the league for 85 minutes….their fans are worried about Burtons resurgence and are working out which games they can get points from to ensure their survival. None are expecting anything tomorrow so let’s prove them right.
 

 

[Cheese]

 

[Chrisj]

8 hours ago, desperado said:

Not trolls M we’re all mates on here pal 😊 (usually) 

Think Iles sums it up quite nicely.

Don’t think anybody was saying it was a vintage performance.

But what I think you are missing, is that effort, attitude and application displays itself in many ways. And that’s not always 100 mile an hour from the beginning, translated into it free flowing football, crisp passing with clear cut chances being created, especially in a blood and thunder derby.

Sometimes, as it was on Tuesday, it needs grit, determination, resoluteness, no-nonsense defending. That was there from the beginning and throughout against Wigan. It would be nice if you could see and acknowledge that.

Maybe it was one of those where being there gave you a different perspective. 

For me, from minute one, there was a drive, commitment and physicality that hasn’t been there previously against these wankers. Not quality, but maximum effort from everybody.

That’s what was needed to win that game. 

Evatt was quite rightly criticised for his one dimensional approach to winning games. Last year’s away game and even one of the 4 nillers, we started really well, at it from the beginning, chances created (and missed), crisp passing. But then we folded because we didn’t show any of the qualities we displayed on Tuesday.

I think this utopia you are searching for of running around creating opportunities and sweeping teams aside “every minute of every game” is unrealistic. 

It’s not unrealistic to expect the players to be switched on and giving 100% effort every game. And they certainly did that on Tuesday and the proof was in the pudding.

SS looks like he’s adopting a horses for courses approach that Evatt never did. Different approaches, formations and tactics to win games.

Saturday could (and I expect will) be different. At home, not against a local team, a team I suspect won’t be in our faces. You may get to see the type of football you prefer.

But try not to get too disappointed if it turns into a scrappy, low quality utopian football experience, which ends up in a win again 😊

 

 

 

This 100% you aren’t going to play well every game and sometimes you have to grind it out which we haven’t been up for the battle in years against those men.  Think Wonderlust likes to feel wanted on other forums 

[TM Trotter]

The only thing from the Wigan game I don't want to see tomorrow is the weird isolated double-up of McAtee and Collins wide on the flank. Seemed, to me, pretty ineffective. 

Hopefully we've learned all about Bristol's ability to break at pace having been undone by it down there. 

Cagey 1-0 win for me, and I'll be delighted 😁 Any win, however it comes, will be wonderful. Just hope with nice weather and cheaper tickets, we don't attract too many people who will loudly grumble if we're not 3-0 up against a "weaker" team by half time!

[Wanderlust]

4 hours ago, Chrisj said:

 Think Wonderlust likes to feel wanted on other forums 

Thanks for your concern. I do and am - apart from Lincoln where I’m banned for life.

[Arrested development]

2 hours ago, TM Trotter said:

The only thing from the Wigan game I don't want to see tomorrow is the weird isolated double-up of McAtee and Collins wide on the flank. Seemed, to me, pretty ineffective. 

Hopefully we've learned all about Bristol's ability to break at pace having been undone by it down there. 

Cagey 1-0 win for me, and I'll be delighted 😁 Any win, however it comes, will be wonderful. Just hope with nice weather and cheaper tickets, we don't attract too many people who will loudly grumble if we're not 3-0 up against a "weaker" team by half time!

Bristol rovers at home and away are two totally different teams. They are the joint worst away team in the league. They are going to get pummelled. 

[Wanderlust]

I read a thread on a Gas forum that was discussing whether or not Calderon should get sacked now and a lot of the chat was based on his poor PPG return despite changing their style of play.

My conclusion was that Schuey won’t let this one slip as a loss would put him on the same PPG as Evatt.

Currently the managerial scores this season are:

IE 1.46 PPG

JD 3.0 PPG

SS 1.58 PPG

A win would take Schuey up to 1.61 FWIW.

[Zico]

At least 21k on

Not bad, can't see them bringing that many, 750 maybe

[Tonge moor green jacket]

In the games since SS took over, I would guess that a higher proportion have been against better sides.

Stockport, Wrexham, Reading, Birmingham and Orient off the top of my head.

Also overcome a hoodoo at Burton and Wigan.

Maybe the average ppg needs a weighting applying to them.

Or wait until the season end and see then.

[FrancisFogarty]

3 hours ago, Arrested development said:

Bristol rovers at home and away are two totally different teams. They are the joint worst away team in the league. They are going to get pummelled. 

Reet. 5 - 0 then. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Would be really nice to score first, and early.

Then capitalise and go on to win comfortably. 

Not sure we've had a win of that ilk since SS came.

7-0 for us. 

Early penalty for us, and a red for denying a goal scoring opportunity. 

Morley to bag it, and then it all fall into place.

[TM Trotter]

5 hours ago, Arrested development said:

Bristol rovers at home and away are two totally different teams. They are the joint worst away team in the league. They are going to get pummelled. 

I really do hope you're right 😊

[Tombwfc]

5 hours ago, Arrested development said:

Bristol rovers at home and away are two totally different teams. They are the joint worst away team in the league. They are going to get pummelled. 

 

You're forgetting we're really not up to much either. The other three worst away teams at the Reebok...

Crawley 4-3 (went 1-3 down. Last minute winner)

Shrewsbury 2-2 (went 0-2 down)

Cambridge 2-2 (went 0-1 and then 1-2 down. Last minute equaliser)

We should win but I'd be pleasantly surprised if we don't make fucking hard work of it.

 

[Alf Hartigan]

5 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

I read a thread on a Gas forum that was discussing whether or not Calderon should get sacked now and a lot of the chat was based on his poor PPG return despite changing their style of play.

My conclusion was that Schuey won’t let this one slip as a loss would put him on the same PPG as Evatt.

Currently the managerial scores this season are:

IE 1.46 PPG

JD 3.0 PPG

SS 1.58 PPG

A win would take Schuey up to 1.61 FWIW.

What the fuck does all that mean?

 

[jayjayoghani]

7 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Thanks for your concern. I do and am - apart from Lincoln where I’m banned for life.

I'll probably regret asking this, but why were you banned? 

[desperado]

                         Baxter

          Forino. Forrester Johnston

                        Sheehan

  Cogley.     Morley.  Tommo.     Tutu

                   McAtee. Collins

 

Can see just one change from Tuesday, Morley in for Randall 

Edited April 5, 2025 by desperado
Thanks Ani 😊

[Whitesince63]

55 minutes ago, desperado said:

                         Baxter

          Forino. Forrester Johnston

                        Sheehan

  Cogley.     Morley.  Tommo.     Tutu

                   McAtee. Collins

 

Can see just one change from Saturday, Morley in for Randall 

Yep, think that’s about the best eleven we can put out at the moment but it doesn’t leave much on the bench to come on and change things if needed. Let’s hope they aren’t needed and for once we have a convincing win. Decent weather, good surface and a big home crowd so no excuses today.

[DaveTheRave]

2-0 Morley, Collins.

21,347.

Come On You Whites!!!

[Ani]

1 hour ago, desperado said:

                         Baxter

          Forino. Forrester Johnston

                        Sheehan

  Cogley.     Morley.  Tommo.     Tutu

                   McAtee. Collins

 

Can see just one change from Saturday, Morley in for Randall 

We all know you mean Tuesday 😘

I thought Tuesday we really had 4 at the back , Tutu stayed up front and JDC was more defensive, although he got forward really well. But agree with the team you have put up.

Dempsey and Santos did not play in reserves this week so maybe on the bench ?? 

[desperado]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

We all know you mean Tuesday 😘

I thought Tuesday we really had 4 at the back , Tutu stayed up front and JDC was more defensive, although he got forward really well. But agree with the team you have put up.

Dempsey and Santos did not play in reserves this week so maybe on the bench ?? 

Oh yes! I'll edit it 😊

Yeh it's a good point re Cogley and Tutu. Tutu definitely plays further forward than Cogley. 

And Johnston seems to venture into a LB space more than Forino or Forrester does on the right.