Arrested development Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: So frustrating. Wingers not being utilised as proper wingers at times. Get them on the "grass" and do a week's practice on crossing. He swapped them over and they were worse on the other side. That actually stalled us as we lost momentum. That's the type of player they are. They are modern wingers. Inverted wingers. It's not fucking 1995 anymore. There's no Ryan Giggs in the modern game. They might need to work on the crossing but they both come inside like 90 percent of wingers nowadays. Quote
Popular Post Arrested development Posted August 30, 2025 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2025 We were miles the best team. Should of won. We aren't far off. A few tweaks and we will be alright. Quote
barrycowdrill Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) The players need to recognise sharpish the assets the front men have. 2 up top inc Dalby up for 20 minutes and the first ball in the box goes in on the 93rd minute the concept of working the space and getting the ball in might be a completely foreign to today’s wingers but it’s a tried and tested tactic that’s worked since football began Edited August 30, 2025 by barrycowdrill Quote
paulhanley Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 If I am not at the match I will watch Final Score or the SKY Soccer Saturday version. Only twice in decades of doing so has a goal of ours come up on the vidiprinter only for it to subsequently prove not to be. The other one was also against fucking Blackpool. The BBC never even bothered correcting it. We are never going to win there are we. Lucky orange bastards. Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I've never really cared about the statistics, the underlying data, trusting the process, patiently waiting for it to click, etc. because I think it's possible to get lost in it all and begin excusing things that shouldn't be happening I don't really care how we play, I just want us to find a way to win and once again we've failed to do that Our backline is genuinely bad and a better team would've punished us I think it comes back to the argument that's been made before - we're trying to overcomplicate things These are third tier players, some of them very good ones, and we just need be more solid, harder to beat, and to do the basics well We'd be much better off if we did so Summed it up perfectly mate 👍 That said, it's nice to actually not lose there for once 😀 Edited August 30, 2025 by Greg_BWFC Quote
Zog1 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Arrested development said: He swapped them over and they were worse on the other side. That actually stalled us as we lost momentum. That's the type of player they are. They are modern wingers. Inverted wingers. It's not fucking 1995 anymore. There's no Ryan Giggs in the modern game. They might need to work on the crossing but they both come inside like 90 percent of wingers nowadays. Thats fine but you cant do wonder shots from 25+ yards every time, we need variety and part of that variety is the occasional cross. Edited August 30, 2025 by Zog1 Quote
Hoppy Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Played 6 won 1 still need to improve those stats Quote
Farnywhite Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 5 minutes ago, Didledee said: Table should show us having 18 points, such a shame again. To many hard luck stories already this season so it does not wash could of may be and all that bottom line is can’t defend Quote
Whitestar Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said: Not being funny but not one player in our team has any goalscoring record at all so why are we expecting them to beat teams? We just carry no threat whatsoever. Well for a couple of seasons and at least 4 transfer windows we have been screaming out for a striker, what have we got????? Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 3 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: The bit I don't get about SS's recruitment. First man through the door is a lad who thrives on crosses then followed by a succession of inverted winger types. SS did give notice last season that he fancied inverted wingers but it doesn't make sense to me. Imagine Morais on the right wing (he's right footed) and Ameobi on the left (he's left footed) putting crosses in for Burstow and Dalby. And Morais taking every free kick and corner. And none of this playing them on their wrong side nonsense. Quote
burnden Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 2 hours ago, freds dad said: On his way to Stoke. ITK Fred? Or man in pub? Quote
Eddie Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 4 minutes ago, Hoppy said: Played 6 won 1 still need to improve those stats Played 6, lost 1 😅 (just for balance) Quote
Whitesince63 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Imagine Morais on the right wing (he's right footed) and Ameobi on the left (he's left footed) putting crosses in for Burstow and Dalby. And Morais taking every free kick and corner. And none of this playing them on their wrong side nonsense. Yes Ian, it really is as simple as that so how come our manager can’t see it? Quote
Eddie Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, burnden said: ITK Fred? Or man in pub? It’d be another thing that makes me question whether I have any clue about this game. If he gets a move up a league, based on what we’ve seen of him, then I don’t know what the fuck I’m watching. He’s not a footballer. Quote
Wanderlust Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Despite all the inadequacies, we already have the capacity to play a more attacking system at the end than we start games with - usually because we’re chasing the game at that stage. If we’re starting games with a more defensive setup - and we still concede first as we seem to every game - why not start with two strikers and try to get a lead which would then create more space for our wide men to exploit when the opposition are forced to chase the game? Quote
Lostock Whites Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 I'm just bored at the moment now to be honest, and after 4 1-1 draws in a row, not matter how well we played, it's just already exhausting. I like Schuey and I'm still optimistic that it can work, it's a whole new team and system and will take time. Unfortunately for him and the board, from a supporters perspective our patience is being more than demanded at this point. When you consider the shite of the last 2 seasons, the fact it's been 5 seasons in League 1 now and that we are 14th in table after 6 games. We have to start getting wins soon. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Early days for Schumacher and this set of players, but can’t say I’m enthralled by a number of his signings or his tactics. Quote
mickbrown Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Still in August and I’m already thinking what’s the point. Quote
Wanderlust Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, Lostock Whites said: I'm just bored at the moment now to be honest, and after 4 1-1 draws in a row, not matter how well we played, it's just already exhausting. I like Schuey and I'm still optimistic that it can work, it's a whole new team and system and will take time. Unfortunately for him and the board, from a supporters perspective our patience is being more than demanded at this point. When you consider the shite of the last 2 seasons, the fact it's been 5 seasons in League 1 now and that we are 14th in table after 6 games. We have to start getting wins soon. Table doesn’t lie. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 17 minutes ago, Arrested development said: He swapped them over and they were worse on the other side. That actually stalled us as we lost momentum. That's the type of player they are. They are modern wingers. Inverted wingers. It's not fucking 1995 anymore. There's no Ryan Giggs in the modern game. They might need to work on the crossing but they both come inside like 90 percent of wingers nowadays. They have two feet. If they can't swap over to the other side, and put crosses in with their main foot then they're simply not that good. They shouldn't even be called wingers as they are narrow much of the time. A load of tosh to say they can't do it- they just need telling to do so. Sure, they can still vary it and come inside at times. Modern game idea is tosh, any fucker can kick it across the pitch with their main foot. Humans haven't evolved and lost that ability. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Early days for Schumacher and this set of players, but can’t say I’m enthralled by a number of his signings or his tactics. I thought he'd be the type to bring experienced heads in and have us organised but it hasn't materialised at all Quote
Farnywhite Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 17 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Imagine Morais on the right wing (he's right footed) and Ameobi on the left (he's left footed) putting crosses in for Burstow and Dalby. And Morais taking every free kick and corner. And none of this playing them on their wrong side nonsense. Said it before the game this inverted wingers just get crowded out . Get the ball swung in two strikers up top drop the 10 role Quote
Cheese Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 4 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Still in August and I’m already thinking what’s the point. We've done enough to win every game so far, luck's just not swinging our way. Not sure what the solution is, but throwing the towel in after 6 games definitely isn't it. Each to their own though. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 I'm not sure it helps that we keep making changes either I can well understand there's a need for horses for courses and times where we set up a certain way are start certain players, I just think we might be rotating too much Quote
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