Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 3, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2023 A good account on why the NHS is fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Winchester White said: A good account on why the NHS is fucked. They want it to fail. That is the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 18 hours ago, little whitt said: only way we will sort the NHS out is to get HAROLD SHIPMAN back the place is full of them soon as you hit 80 Raikes Lane in the big fire Rights to a dignified death would help. My dad at 74 was glad that his cancer diagnosis was soon changed to terminal against offer of being battered by chemo to gain a couple years rooted to the house or care home. The resources being put into step FiL at Christie’s at 78 yr old with no hope he’ll have a decent quality of life again is phenomenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Winchester White said: A good account on why the NHS is fucked. That's pretty much it in a nutshell! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Another strike looks like it's on its way. Junior Doctors this time, probably in March. "Below inflation pay rises add up to a 26.1% real-terms cut for junior doctors in England since 2008-09, the BMA says" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59549800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, globaldiver said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59549800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 BBC news about to cover Bolton Hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, L/H White said: BBC news about to cover Bolton Hospital On the website as well.... https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fhealth-64242333&h=AT1Hr7Wu9waUNSee3tGQZE7DdOjmaRILlELWbtxUh5hluxwJElL2kyAdFf1p0TmcBwC3x1ILuhKR-hZJyN2dp4wrXgSI4f8uF3cpSXpH6BSXIxS6nGFgw6Fv59ZlbVNlbA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted January 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just come back from Ireland the health service there is experiencing excess waiting times staff shortages people on trolleys in corridors lack of available beds it’s funded differently there, They’re still in the EU , they can’t recruit qualified staff the population is only around 5 million the consensus is the cause is the perfect storm of lack of adequate funding 3 respiratory diseases ( flu corona and some other chest infection doing the rounds at the same time increasing intake lack of staff I’m firmly in the Brexit is shit camp, but, Ireland is experiencing the same as here while in the eu , so it’s not a Brexit issue , it’s probably the same as above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, fatolive said: Just come back from Ireland the health service there is experiencing excess waiting times staff shortages people on trolleys in corridors lack of available beds it’s funded differently there, They’re still in the EU , they can’t recruit qualified staff the population is only around 5 million the consensus is the cause is the perfect storm of lack of adequate funding 3 respiratory diseases ( flu corona and some other chest infection doing the rounds at the same time increasing intake lack of staff I’m firmly in the Brexit is shit camp, but, Ireland is experiencing the same as here while in the eu , so it’s not a Brexit issue , it’s probably the same as above Correct! You also failed to mention the ageing population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2023 European immigrants generally arent old They are also willing to do low paid work Brexit is definitely a contributory factor to our labour shortages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 hours ago, fatolive said: Just come back from Ireland the health service there is experiencing excess waiting times staff shortages people on trolleys in corridors lack of available beds it’s funded differently there, They’re still in the EU , they can’t recruit qualified staff the population is only around 5 million the consensus is the cause is the perfect storm of lack of adequate funding 3 respiratory diseases ( flu corona and some other chest infection doing the rounds at the same time increasing intake lack of staff I’m firmly in the Brexit is shit camp, but, Ireland is experiencing the same as here while in the eu , so it’s not a Brexit issue , it’s probably the same as above Correct. https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/14/a-ticking-time-bomb-healthcare-under-threat-across-western-europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 56 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Correct. https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/14/a-ticking-time-bomb-healthcare-under-threat-across-western-europe It’s happening all over Europe but let’s blame Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, royal white said: It’s happening all over Europe but let’s blame Brexit Not just Europe. https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/19/shiny-new-hospitals-wont-solve-australias-healthcare-crisis-they-could-make-it-worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobyBrno Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/11/canada-healthcare-crisis-emergency-room-death Maybe other factors are to blame. COVID seems to crop up in all these reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, BobyBrno said: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/11/canada-healthcare-crisis-emergency-room-death Maybe other factors are to blame. COVID seems to crop up in all these reports. No doubt, but things weren't perfect before covid. Quite simply an ageing, less healthy population wanting increasing medical intervention. Now statins are going to be given out like sweets. Preventative- certainly but with its own costs and issues. Despite massive funding things aren't improving, though they will a little once the covid backlog is cleared. We must get back to a place where exercise and basic cooking skills are provided at school, and folk take more responsibility for their own wellbeing where they can. That will also include more money being invested into pensions/care services by individuals as well as the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: No doubt, but things weren't perfect before covid. Quite simply an ageing, less healthy population wanting increasing medical intervention. Now statins are going to be given out like sweets. Preventative- certainly but with its own costs and issues. Despite massive funding things aren't improving, though they will a little once the covid backlog is cleared. We must get back to a place where exercise and basic cooking skills are provided at school, and folk take more responsibility for their own wellbeing where they can. That will also include more money being invested into pensions/care services by individuals as well as the state. This 👏🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: No doubt, but things weren't perfect before covid. Quite simply an ageing, less healthy population wanting increasing medical intervention. Now statins are going to be given out like sweets. Preventative- certainly but with its own costs and issues. Despite massive funding things aren't improving, though they will a little once the covid backlog is cleared. We must get back to a place where exercise and basic cooking skills are provided at school, and folk take more responsibility for their own wellbeing where they can. That will also include more money being invested into pensions/care services by individuals as well as the state. Goodness me, it's only January but I'm putting this up for the 'Old Man Shouting At The Clouds' Award in the 'Things Were Reet Better In My Day' category. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Correct! You also failed to mention the ageing population. Yes but this is clearly an issue of underfunding since 2010, the ageing population is a factor but we were managing it better before 2010. The Tories drastically reduced NHS spending and we are now paying the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Yes but this is clearly an issue of underfunding since 2010, the ageing population is a factor but we were managing it better before 2010. The Tories drastically reduced NHS spending and we are now paying the price. How much was it reduced by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 Brexit was supposed to ensure we didn’t suffer the same fate as the EU. So we were told. Never mind eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, Spider said: Brexit was supposed to ensure we didn’t suffer the same fate as the EU. So we were told. Never mind eh? Was Brexit supposed to stop covid as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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